Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[JohnC]

Life comes at you fast...

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

It does feel like there's more this than meets the eye. I mean I think everyone, upon hearing Kravtsov would be sent down, had some amount of fear over "is he gonna run?" Surely the Rangers had considered it as well. Just seems like none of this was totally unforeseen and that something else was going on that made the Rangers okay with going this route.

I brought up several times why (even though he was injured) he was held back from the bonding trip. If Kakko or Laffy had a dtd injury would they have stayed home for such an important trip?

Doubtful.

Something was up and I think both parties saw it coming.

 

[mas0764]

I said he thinks he doesnt have a future here.

Shame he couldn't do anything to force his way into that gaping hole.

No doubt influenced by the moronic owner's mandate that the team get "tougher," instead of developing talent.

Dolan deserves to never win anything. Why does that have to deflect onto the rest of us?

 

[New York RKY]

Good opportunity to lead the league in Stromes

I’m pretty sure they say goes, “A Strome a day keeps the playoffs away!”

I wonder what 2 can do.

 

[Blais to Win]

Entire scouting group needs to be evaluated and heads need to roll.

Rangers dump European Scouting Director.

Drury cleaned house already.

 

[cheech70]

I looked forward to watching him play...he changed agents after old agent mended the fences back when. So the mature, pay your dues approach is something immature Kravy doesn't grasp yet. The Rangers moved on with him when he came back and tried to make him a Pro. Inmates do not run the asylum...Kravy is going to play in Russia with old planes, crappy rinks and no concern for his future ?? Good Luck...nothing for management to do but suspend him. What was Sonny's line in The Bronx Tale??? Nothing worse than wasted talent. He is seeking a trade that Drury doesn't have to do unless its fair value. Wait it out for the next couple years until something makes sense. Kravy better go to night school and learn a trade...his days as a NHLer are slipping away. Gauthier in my opinon had a better camp than Vitaly.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Good opportunity to lead the league in Stromes

I can only handle one lazy Strome, two would be torture lol

 

[The New Russian Five]

Request a trade? Yes. Refuse assignment? I think that’s much less common.

Lias did the same thing. Is it entitlement or how we manage these kids? Or is it the type of players we draft? Which would also concerning because this organization puts so much emphasis on drafting "players with character."

No matter how you dice it, it's a bad look for the rangers and their ability to draft and develop top young players.

 

[bl02]

Watched almost every game he played for Traktor and he was improving but by no means was he a lock to be a top 6 guy in the NHL.
I just don't get it. Are we the only team that is having issues with these kids not wanting to go to Hartford? Is it the NYC thing? They feel they are entitled to come here and just grab a top line spot?
Why not just go to Hartford for 2 weeks and rip it up if you're that good? I am sure he would be back in the lineup with no doubt.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

So what's the value of Kravstov, at this point?

 

[Levitate]

Kravtsov has a lot to learn. ALOT. We did a horrible job drafting two extremely thin skinned entitled brats

Yeah honestly I'm looking at this with some concern and notice the "trend" of two guys who played in the top pro league when drafted and who have been extremely unhappy about the idea of not being given a NHL spot.
Could be the Rangers are over promising stuff to them to get them to come over and that's playing a big role, and if so then that needs to be fixed.

The other side is that those drafts and "development" were the old regime, so we'll see what goes on going forward.

But again, you can't let a guy who has proven nothing hold your roster hostage

 

[mas0764]

You can't allow players to dictate your moves because you think they're gonna be upset.

Surely you must admit there is something fishy about this happening with two players.

 

[nyr2k2]

I brought up several times why (even though he was injured) he was held back from the bonding trip. If Kakko or Laffy had a dtd injury would they have stayed home for such an important trip?

Doubtful.

Something was up and I think both parties saw it coming.

Definitely a possibility. Not attending the bonding thing seemed strange. I wondered if there was more to it, but everything else I saw seemed to indicate they were still bullish on the kid and expecting him to be a part of things moving forward, so I kind of just let it go.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Watched almost every game he played for Traktor and he was improving but by no means was he a lock to be a top 6 guy in the NHL.
I just don't get it. Are we the only team that is having issues with these kids not wanting to go to Hartford? Is it the NYC thing? They feel they are entitled to come here and just grab a top line spot?
Why not just go to Hartford for 2 weeks and rip it up if you're that good? I am sure he would be back in the lineup with no doubt.

Thats on him, not the team. It is what it is. Glad it happened honestly. Move on.

I never felt he was a huge cog in the rebuild anyway, especially after Laf was won.

It was going to be a cherry on top if he panned out.

 

[nyr2k2]

Surely you must admit there is something fishy about this happening with two players.

I think the team probably needs to do a better job of setting expectations, but also drafting players with more reasonable expectations for themselves.

 

[bl02]

Entire scouting group needs to be evaluated and heads need to roll.

Can you imagine if none of Miller or Nils pan out. That would be 4 out of 5 first round busts. And not saying 5 of 5 because I think Fil has handled his time here like a mature player and has lived up to being picked 21st and more

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

If anyone should be pissed it should be Jones.

What did he do? He went down and hes going to play top pair minutes until a spot opens up.

Or be packaged with Kravstov to a team that has a spot for both of them

 

[pld459666]

We are not on Hunt, he is a slightly better version of McKegg

I replied to the idea that Hunt had a better camp and that VK offers nothing in the 4th line.

I disagreed with the notion that Hunt was better and that his ability to slot up and down the line up was more valuable.

Hes a body that plays a physical style (than i like and appreciate) but beyond that offers nothing else.

My premise here is that my opinion only, the best line up has VK on 3rd line with Blais on the 4th.

VK needs to report to AHL to help grease the skids out of town. Not playing doesn't help him and if I'm Drury, I let the kid sit.

Actions and decisions have consequences.

VK need to play more than Drury needs to play him.

 

[bl02]

Thats on him, not the team. It is what it is. Glad it happened honestly. Move on.

I never felt he was a huge cog in the rebuild anyway. It was going to be a cherry on top if he panned out.

Agree but would have been better if handled it with some maturity but I guess that would be too much to ask for.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What a baby.

Bye!

 

[Kovalev27]

Yeah honestly I'm looking at this with some concern and notice the "trend" of two guys who played in the top pro league when drafted and who have been extremely unhappy about the idea of not being given a NHL spot.
Could be the Rangers are over promising stuff to them to get them to come over and that's playing a big role, and if so then that needs to be fixed.

The other side is that those drafts and "development" were the old regime, so we'll see what goes on going forward.

But again, you can't let a guy who has proven nothing hold your roster hostage

And that wouldn’t surprise me. But there’s a level of do your job too then. Neither of those kids came over and looked like top 10 picks. And frankly kravtsov played this game already ran home played like shit came back so that expectation should go out the window at that point. He was given a spot didn’t have to go to prospect camp then did nothing in camp other than watch multiple guys outplay him. Brooks said he underwhelmed before the injury. So at. Some point it’s on the player to prove himself and he hasn’t. Going to run home again then go.

did Jones who actually deserves his spot?

did Barron?

No.

 

[mas0764]

Here we go again.

Time to go back to rebuilding.

 

[nyr2k2]

I mean Chytil is the perfect example for guys like Andersson and Kravtsov. He played over a full season in the NHL and then was sent down out of camp. You think he liked it or thought it was fair? Of course not. But he took the assignment like a pro, played really well in Hartford, was back in a couple weeks, and hasn't looked back.

Why can't Kravtsov do that?

 

[Levitate]

I brought up several times why (even though he was injured) he was held back from the bonding trip. If Kakko or Laffy had a dtd injury would they have stayed home for such an important trip?

Doubtful.

Something was up and I think both parties saw it coming.

Yep definitely wondering that now. Definitely wondering if there was something going on behind the scenes that kept the Rangers from wanting to include him in that trip. It's weird.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Yeah honestly I'm looking at this with some concern and notice the "trend" of two guys who played in the top pro league when drafted and who have been extremely unhappy about the idea of not being given a NHL spot.
Could be the Rangers are over promising stuff to them to get them to come over and that's playing a big role, and if so then that needs to be fixed.

The other side is that those drafts and "development" were the old regime, so we'll see what goes on going forward.

But again, you can't let a guy who has proven nothing hold your roster hostage

Its possible the old brass had a habit of that. I dont see Drury as a guy who makes promises.