romba
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He should be learning on the job RN imo...
Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade
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bbny
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So does Lafreniere. It's the potential to be better though. For Gauthier, that might be here or elsewhere
Mandar
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is he even working out with some team over there? Or is he doing nothing for 3 weeks and counting?
Mac n Gs
Drury plz
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Arizona just recalled him a few days ago and played him as 1C last night in place of Nick Schmaltz who is DTD with an injury. I can see them wanting to hold onto him now and seeing if he can get his game back on track with a new a HC. I think he’d be a good target too, but I don’t think he’d be available.
A player I’d really like to get, but one who is probably unavailable, is Adam Beckman from Minnesota. He was an amazing player for Spokane the last few years, and he’s had a solid start to his AHL career with 9 points in his first 13 games. He’s got one helluva shot too.
That's a great thought too. Beckman is a blazer, kid skates like the wind and shoots every chance he gets.
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Mac n Gs
Drury plz
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Yeah, he’s an incredibly fun player to watch, but I doubt MIN wants to move him since he’s one of their top prospects. Krav could plug right into their top-9 now though and give them some much needed scoring depth to be competitive in the Western Conference
romba
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I'm sure he's skating every day and also 'working out' like getting up from the couch to get a soda
Mandar
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and obviously posing for pictures in the sauna with Jovo....
TheGortonConspiracy
Wow its a nice GM
First off, it was discussed by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman in a recent episode of 32 Thoughts that when Drury was the General Manager of the Hartford Wolf Pack, several players had requested trades; in all but one of these situations, Drury did not give in, and instead made a trade on “his timeline.”
Potential Destinations for Vitali Kravtsov
That seems like an indictment of Hartford/Drury... the list isn’t just Lias and Krav.Potential Destinations for Vitali Kravtsov
bbny
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Not sure I track how this is an indictment on Drury. He doesn't let the players call the shots. That's good. These guys have signed contracts. There's no obligation to immediately trade them for pennies on the dollar just because they request a trade.
haohmaru
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Exactly. Drury's first priority as GM of the (Pack, then, Rangers, now) has to be THE CLUB. Kravtsov should've requested a trade and put his nose to the grindstone. He could've had several more NHL games under his belt by now and, hopefully, added to his resume and reasons other clubs might actually want to trade for him. Watching games in the stands in Russia certainly isn't doing him any favors.
Yeah, I was discussing this in another thread or earlier in here. The Rangers have always accommodated guys who want out. Under Drury that included at least Vince Pedrie, Ville Meskanen, and the Swedish kid whose name I forget. They were all let go by Drury. There have been other moves to accommodate guys as well. One thing to remember is that the guys Marek mentioned were all under NHL contract (IIRC it was Day, Gropp, Halverson, and I forget who else), so it wasn't even Drury's call to make by himself. Second, it's not uncommon for guys toiling in the minors to ask for trades--in fact, it's pretty common, as they have a very limited window in most cases to make the NHL. Third, we can't just trade or terminate the contract of every guy who wants a move--no team can. Even if the guys aren't parts of the NHL plan, you still need to fill out a competitive AHL squad and accordingly you can't just ship out a guy at the drop of a hat. If you're the AHL GM your job is is to put together a strong AHL team.
EDIT: The Swedish kid was Lindqvist. Not Andersson if that's what it seemed like I meant. Though him, too. LOL.
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This is the first I've heard that Lundqvist was out of shape and had an attitude problem. Ditto for Kakko and Lafreniere.
A better comparison would be Zac Jones going down despite shining in the pre-season. He didn't run home to mommy.
I find it amazing that anyone thinks a player who is a constant pain in the ass should be catered to.
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it's completely normal and actually its very good that half the guys who come through your minor league system want out, including multiple top 10 picks
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Gauthiers numbers are so much better than his, there’s literally no comparison. Gauthier is one of those guys who’s had maxed out in the AHL, which is why he’s got a longer leash trying to become an NHL player. Kravstov played a quarter of one AHL season and scored at the pace an NHL fourth liner would at that point in their development
Hunter Gathers
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He's easily the most overhyped Ranger I can remember in a long time.
He requests a trade and all of a sudden the rebuild is ruined, our depth is killed....
It’s really wacky. There’s not guarantee he’s even got the drive or the mental toughness to be a 60pt wing, let alone better.
I honestly have no problem getting a 2nd for him and moving on if we identify a player we want.
Look at lias for Cuylle.. we’re better off.
Kravy has good size and a solid skill set. Beyond that, I have no idea what everyone is clamoring about. If he can put it together he’ll be a solid top 6 wing, not Pavel Bure.
Since the draft he’s already demonstrated he can’t deal well with adversity.
These next 2 years are strong drafts. Look at guys like Pinelli and Raty that fell....
I’d bet neither team deals either guy for kravy with the antics he’s pulled since his draft year.
Sometimes you swing and miss, and sometimes the player you took in the 1st doesn’t work out for a myriad of reasons. Us being ranger fans, we’ve pretty much seen it all.
We’ve seen guys flat out bust- Lundmark/brendl/mcilrath/jessiman
We’ve seen injuries derail promising careers
Blackburn/Dube
And guys that are just flat out not as good as they were billed.
Montoya, Lias
We’ve even had a player pass away
Cherepanov
In the last 20 or so years, we’ve had bad luck in the 1st. Mainly only in the top 10 picks.
It’s glaring because we didn’t pick top 10 a lot. But overall we’ve done ok in the 1st rd with some yet to be determined.
Staal/Skjei/Lundkvist/Miller/Schneider/Chytil and Hopefully Othmann are all solid NHL players or Will be with various degrees of success.
Some folks need to get a grip.
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bleedblue94
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Gauthier, kravtsov, and a 2nd which gets flipped to buffalo in the eichels deal for brisson and Riley Smith.
Sounds good to me...
Sounds good to me...
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egelband
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Kravtsov isn’t injured though. He is who he is and no one is biting. I mean, yeah, trade him before the issue comes to a head. But GMs around the league know what’s up. He’s a guy with talent who has never really put it together. What’s he worth? I think it was a gamble of a draft pick that just hasn’t panned out. For any number of reasons. But either way, there’s just not much there. And he’s still under contract. It’s a crap situation but maybe somewhat salvageable.
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