Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[TominNC]

MAKE UP AND BRING HIM BACK. This team needs OFFENSIVE PLAYERS.

Yeah his attitude is pretty offensive

 

[Shesterkybomb]

there is so much wrong with this post

1. Neither lundkvist nor Schneider did all that much to impress in preseason. Both probably need agl time. However we have no RD man. Jones is really a LD man and this team does not pike to play people on the off side.

2. Lafreniere has been bounced all around and is currently on the third line and hasnt bitched at all. We also have no alternatives in the top 6 currently bc a certain crybaby is staying in Russia and another top 6 winger is injured

3. barron is better off getting a ton of minutes in the Ahl rather than playing 4c here. That is why MCKegg is still here. And Barron hasnt done all that much to force himself to stay in his short stint here.

4. if kravtsov just went down like amost professionals do for the extra conditioning he most likely would be up and maybe in top 6 since our lines are in flux. But no, he had to pout and cry.

the rangers might f uo alot. But this is squarely on Kravtsov. He wants to be handed everything without having to work for it. Or compromise at all.

1. Schneider was the superior player, Lundkvist never really had a good preseason at all, and the worts we saw in preseason are here in regular season. Schneider played mistake free hockey the whole camp.

2. Lafreniere has gotten the golden pass, he hasn't been that good really overall. There's 0 chance he gets sent to the AHL, there 0 chance he plays on the 4th line or sits out, its just not happening. Speaking of Kravtsov, has he been given the same opportunity as Lafreniere? If he was would he still be on this team?

3. Barron isn't a teenager, he doesnt need to physically mature or adjust to this style of hockey, if you think the Rangers are a better team with Mckegg then i can only assume you are his agent of on meth.

4. Kravtsov saw all this play out once, he earned a spot on this team between his play at the end of last year and the limited time he had in pre-season. If you can't see how the treatment hasn't been different for him vs Lafreniere or Lundkvist then i dont know what to tell you, the management messed this up, why bother begging him to come over if you were gonna do the same thing over again to him for a Gauthier or Hajek.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

3. Barron isn't a teenager, he doesnt need to physically mature or adjust to this style of hockey, if you think the Rangers are a better team with Mckegg then i can only assume you are his agent of on meth.

McKegg's teeth and meth you say......

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

How about Kravstov to Vegas for Dorofyev and a 3rd? Is HF going to tell me to go to my room?

 

[haveandare]

MAKE UP AND BRING HIM BACK. This team needs OFFENSIVE PLAYERS.

What suggests he’s an offensive player at this level? His ppg in both the NHL and AHL is on par with bottom six guys

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

How about Kravstov to Vegas for Dorofyev and a 3rd? Is HF going to tell me to go to my room?

If they acquire Kravtsov, it's probably to have him play WITH Dorofeyev.

Interesting to see someone bringing up that name, as Kravtsov mentioned in conversations that Vegas and Florida are destinations he would be okay with, based on the feedback he was given by Dorofeyev and Denisenko.

 

[Kocur Dill]

delete

 

[rangers1314]

If they acquire Kravtsov, it's probably to have him play WITH Dorofeyev.

Interesting to see someone bringing up that name, as Kravtsov mentioned in conversations that Vegas and Florida are destinations he would be okay with, based on the feedback he was given by Dorofeyev and Denisenko.

Sorry, am I to understand that there would be teams that he wouldn't report to if he wasn't happy with their location?

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

I think the disconnect between some posters here and reality is that they view Kravtsov under the lens of what he can be in a perfect world and not what he currently is, which is an unimpressive player with an attitude who needs more time to develop. Drop him in the top 9 today, and he's not doing much to contribute to the team's success.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Sorry, am I to understand that there would be teams that he wouldn't report to if he wasn't happy with their location?

lol, he’s flexing his no movement clause opinion

 

[haohmaru]

If they acquire Kravtsov, it's probably to have him play WITH Dorofeyev.

Interesting to see someone bringing up that name, as Kravtsov mentioned in conversations that Vegas and Florida are destinations he would be okay with, based on the feedback he was given by Dorofeyev and Denisenko.

So, not only does he want to be traded, he also wants to call the shot about where he’s going? The balls on this kid who has accomplished virtually zero at an NHL level. Screw him and good riddance.

 

[romba]

So, not only does he want to be traded, he also wants to call the shot about where he’s going? The balls on this kid who has accomplished virtually zero at an NHL level. Screw him and good riddance.

VK just has everyone on HF on ignore except @EdJovanovski who's called VK the greatest prospect EVER, or The Russian Gretzky with size (and the same 80's haircut I might add lol) so he's drinkin his own kool aid

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So, not only does he want to be traded, he also wants to call the shot about where he’s going? The balls on this kid who has accomplished virtually zero at an NHL level. Screw him and good riddance.

Sorry, am I to understand that there would be teams that he wouldn't report to if he wasn't happy with their location?

No. He didn't say he doesn't want to go elsewhere, he just mentioned those 2 teams because his friends play there and he heard good things about those organisations from them. He didn't say those are his exclusive destinations.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I think the disconnect between some posters here and reality is that they view Kravtsov under the lens of what he can be in a perfect world and not what he currently is, which is an unimpressive player with an attitude who needs more time to develop. Drop him in the top 9 today, and he's not doing much to contribute to the team's success.

My take on this two fold

- yes, Krav has a misperception of reality yet he does have good hands,etc.

- the media hyped this kid up and i wonder if you’re from Russia if this confusing. High draft pick and during the rookie camp in Stamford the write-ups and rave were off the charts while the media were all sharing/showing his mother these write ups, looking for info, hyping it up . . . then he gets sent to Hartford. I wonder if you’re from Russia this confusing. He’s still a baby.


Maybe i’m making excuses. Idk anymore.

 

[Rempe73]

So, not only does he want to be traded, he also wants to call the shot about where he’s going? The balls on this kid who has accomplished virtually zero at an NHL level. Screw him and good riddance.

Lol it really does remind me of the Ben Simmons situation if true, and I love both Ben and Kravtsov.

 

[Kocur Dill]

1. Schneider was the superior player, Lundkvist never really had a good preseason at all, and the worts we saw in preseason are here in regular season. Schneider played mistake free hockey the whole camp.

2. Lafreniere has gotten the golden pass, he hasn't been that good really overall. There's 0 chance he gets sent to the AHL, there 0 chance he plays on the 4th line or sits out, its just not happening. Speaking of Kravtsov, has he been given the same opportunity as Lafreniere? If he was would he still be on this team?

3. Barron isn't a teenager, he doesnt need to physically mature or adjust to this style of hockey, if you think the Rangers are a better team with Mckegg then i can only assume you are his agent of on meth.

4. Kravtsov saw all this play out once, he earned a spot on this team between his play at the end of last year and the limited time he had in pre-season. If you can't see how the treatment hasn't been different for him vs Lafreniere or Lundkvist then i dont know what to tell you, the management messed this up, why bother begging him to come over if you were gonna do the same thing over again to him for a Gauthier or Hajek.

So, I'm in the F' Kravtsov camp, but, the way you present it makes the counter argument reasonable and has some very valid points.

On the other hand, my belief structure is that of rewarding The Good Soldier and, Chain-of-command, as well as honoring the contract you signed.

Can it be both, that I can sympathize with Vitaly's situation and at the same time admonish his choice? Yes, I can. We all get put into shitty situations in our professions, most of us don't have millions in the bank to afford the luxury of not lacing up our work boots and grinding it out till our time comes to make a change.

 

[Raspewtin]

ironically Kravtsov was at his absolute best as an NA pro when he played with Rooney and Howden lol

part of why I liked him so much. he's a skill player but he was Kings-under-Sutter-esque with his stick and how he used his body against defenders. it was very impressive and unique to me. I'm still really bummed at how this turned out.

 

[EdJovanovski]

So, not only does he want to be traded, he also wants to call the shot about where he’s going? The balls on this kid who has accomplished virtually zero at an NHL level. Screw him and good riddance.

Our team & prospects could use some balls like that.

 

[EdJovanovski]

ironically Kravtsov was at his absolute best as an NA pro when he played with Rooney and Howden lol

part of why I liked him so much. he's a skill player but he was Kings-under-Sutter-esque with his stick and how he used his body against defenders. it was very impressive and unique to me. I'm still really bummed at how this turned out.

Don’t worry everyone agrees with you if you go back and read those GDT’s, people are just trying to rationalize Drury’s decision and cope

 

[EdJovanovski]

VK just has everyone on HF on ignore except @EdJovanovski who's called VK the greatest prospect EVER, or The Russian Gretzky with size (and the same 80's haircut I might add lol) so he's drinkin his own kool aid

Same 80’s haircut LOL

 

[NickyFotiu]

4. Kravtsov saw all this play out once, he earned a spot on this team between his play at the end of last year and the limited time he had in pre-season.

How?

 

[OriginalLimbo]

No. He didn't say he doesn't want to go elsewhere, he just mentioned those 2 teams because his friends play there and he heard good things about those organisations from them. He didn't say those are his exclusive destinations.

Fine, but he should still keep his trap shut. I honestly don’t remember reading other players in similar circumstances actually mention other orgs. If they did, they would be just as wrong. It is completely inappropriate and unprofessional.

This kid wants to be a pro? Well, how about start acting like one.

 

[nyr2k2]

Don’t worry everyone agrees with you if you go back and read those GDT’s, people are just trying to rationalize Drury’s decision and cope

Drury has been getting shit on for every single thing he's done other than hiring Gallant and signing Lindgren, and even then people say he just made the obvious choice on Gallant and that clearly Gorton had negotiated the Lindgren deal. Why do you think people would suddenly feel the need to come to the guy's defense when most of the board seems to loathe him? That doesn't add up.

I think what more likely is that even if people liked what Kravtsov did last year, and even if they think he should have made the team, they still think Kravtsov is acting like a shithead. I know you pick a side and roll with it for eternity, but it doesn't have to be that way. "My guy" has f***ed up plenty of times in my life and it's okay to acknowledge it.

 

[Kocur26]

So, not only does he want to be traded, he also wants to call the shot about where he’s going? The balls on this kid who has accomplished virtually zero at an NHL level. Screw him and good riddance.

You mean like Adam Fox ?
Mike York ?
Matt Gilroy?
Eli manning ?

 

[haohmaru]

Our team & prospects could use some balls like that.

Takes more balls to honor the contract you signed then taking your toys and going home. Don’t need any more balls like that in this organization thanks.