Traded Korpisalo (5 years/20M)

[Tnuoc Alucard]

It’s more than goaltending that is wrong with the Senators, sure, it’s easy to point the finger at the goalie after a game like last night. All that does is keep the other issues plaguing this team, on the back burner.

so far the coaching change has had a limited affect on the players, but after a blowout like last night, how can anyone even suggest “ the corner has been turned” after a few games when they played defensively better than last night. Will be interesting to see if there are any line up changes before the next game.

Sogaard has to start the next game, and perhaps two games before the all star break….

Don’t know how much practice time is allowed during the all start break, but it be better be put to good use, in regards to Korpisalo…. and I don’t know if this is possible, and sure someone will let me/us know, but could he be sent down to Bellville for some games? There might be some CBA provisions preventing that…. But something has to be done even if it is just to open some eyes, and have the players know this two steps forwards, two steps back style of play is not tolerated.

.440 P% for the first 25 games of the season, .421 P% in the last 19 games….. something has to wake up this team, not just the goaltending,

 

[BondraTime]

Reading through the thread is hilarious

 

[lancepitlick]

Korpisucko

KorpiworsethantommySalo

 

[kilroy]

Was a signing out of left field, but just hoped he'd be at least competitive as Forsberg. Out of our hands tho.

No it wasn't. It was telegraphed from here to the Moon and back again. Everyone was expecting they'd sign a keeper and he was, hands down, the best of the batch that offseason.

 

[KnockHobbler]

Krapisalo

 

[Emrasie]

After the 2rd goal you could feel the team has no faith in him, i can't blame them i 'm the same. He could be stellar one minute and the next one be awful. No consistency during 3 periods.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Reading through the thread is hilarious

What a sad state to be in. Are you validating your opinion based of a season that's been plagued by mismanagement? Good for you.

 

[BondraTime]

What a sad state to be in. Are you validating your opinion based of a season that's been plagued by mismanagement? Good for you.

Not at all, like I said it’s a very funny thread to read through. Lots of crow

I’m wrong a lot, and right at times. My opinion is my opinion, have no need in having it validated right or wrong, it’s a meaningless anonymous message board.

Management definitely plagued us with that contract and player though.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

It’s more than goaltending that is wrong with the Senators, sure, it’s easy to point the finger at the goalie after a game like last night. All that does is keep the other issues plaguing this team, on the back burner.

so far the coaching change has had a limited affect on the players, but after a blowout like last night, how can anyone even suggest “ the corner has been turned” after a few games when they played defensively better than last night. Will be interesting to see if there are any line up changes before the next game.

Sogaard has to start the next game, and perhaps two games before the all star break….

Don’t know how much practice time is allowed during the all start break, but it be better be put to good use, in regards to Korpisalo…. and I don’t know if this is possible, and sure someone will let me/us know, but could he be sent down to Bellville for some games? There might be some CBA provisions preventing that…. But something has to be done even if it is just to open some eyes, and have the players know this two steps forwards, two steps back style of play is not tolerated.

.440 P% for the first 25 games of the season, .421 P% in the last 19 games….. something has to wake up this team, not just the goaltending,

Korpisalo is low on the list of issues for this team.
We have soft players up and down the line up
We have star players who don't know how to play defense
We have defenseman playing their offside
We have defenseman who don't have NHL ability or size
Worst of all, we have deep rooted loser mentality which can only change by shaking up the core and bringing in quality free agents from winning teams.

 

[Neil Patrick Harris]

Not at all, like I said it’s a very funny thread to read through. Lots of crow

I’m wrong a lot, and right at times. My opinion is my opinion, have no need in having it validated right or wrong, it’s a meaningless anonymous message board.

Management definitely plagued us with that contract and player though.

This reminds me, didn't I post in this topic back on July 1st?

Anyway, I'm back home so now I can share my very important and very unique opinion on this signing: Too much term.

We're going to find out who the real Korpisalo is. Hopefully he's a true starter. If he's not, this deal is barf.

Oh dammit! I was right.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

People forget that Korpisalo wasn't far from being out of the league before last season, as he was coming off a 2yr stretch where he was arguably the worst regular goalie in the league.

He might have a brief golden stretch before his deal is bought out, but it won't change what he is.

 

[Xspyrit]

I can't believe Dorion was allowed to sign a goalie for 5 years after the Murray debacle. He screwed this team good and proper.

Rank the moves in hindsight (so with how the trade trees transpired) from worst to best (I dare you)

Zibanejad/2nd for Derick Brassard
Kyle Turris + 1st (4th OA)+ Bowers + 3rd for Matt Duchene
Mark Stone for Erik Brannstrom + 2nd
Filip Gustavsson for Cam Talbot
Mike Hoffman for nothing
Cody Ceci + 3rd for Connor Brown + Nikita Zaitsev (then 2nd + 4th to move his contract)
2nd round pick for Derek Stepan
Dylan DeMelo for a 3rd round pick
NEVER trading Chris freaking Tierney while he had a bit of value

Colin White contract
Mike Condon contract
Alex Burrows contract
Zack Smith contract (then taking on Anisimov)
Craig Anderson contract
Letting Anthony Duclair walk as a RFA (spent money horribly elsewhere instead)
3rd round pick for Travis Hamonic then contract
Josh Norris contract (some very heavy criticizing already)
Thomas Chabot contract (a lot of criticism too)

The Tyler Boucher pick

The Murray debacle (then 3rd + 7th to move 75% of his contract)
The Del Zotto debacle
The Dadonov debacle (losing a 1st round pick)
The DeBrincat debacle (losing a 7th OA pick)
The Chychrun debacle (as his value is going down by the day) (+ losing a 12th OA pick)
The Korpisalo debacle

How is it EVEN POSSIBLE to cumulate such an horrifying track record in the EASIEST context which is a FULL REBUILD?

I mean, rebuilding is not supposed to be complicated! You pile on assets as much as possible

Pierre Dorion is possibly the worst GM in NHL history, yes, even worse than Milbury

 

[Cosmix]

After the 2rd goal you could feel the team has no faith in him, i can't blame them i 'm the same. He could be stellar one minute and the next one be awful. No consistency during 3 periods.

If the players lost faith in Korpisalo after the second goal, then they should have played much better defensively than they did.

 

[Cosmix]

Rank the moves in hindsight (so with how the trade trees transpired) from worst to best (I dare you)

Zibanejad/2nd for Derick Brassard
Kyle Turris + 1st (4th OA)+ Bowers + 3rd for Matt Duchene
Mark Stone for Erik Brannstrom + 2nd
Filip Gustavsson for Cam Talbot
Mike Hoffman for nothing
Cody Ceci + 3rd for Connor Brown + Nikita Zaitsev (then 2nd + 4th to move his contract)
2nd round pick for Derek Stepan
Dylan DeMelo for a 3rd round pick
NEVER trading Chris freaking Tierney while he had a bit of value

Colin White contract
Mike Condon contract
Alex Burrows contract
Zack Smith contract (then taking on Anisimov)
Craig Anderson contract
Letting Anthony Duclair walk as a RFA (spent money horribly elsewhere instead)
3rd round pick for Travis Hamonic then contract
Josh Norris contract (some very heavy criticizing already)
Thomas Chabot contract (a lot of criticism too)

The Tyler Boucher pick

The Murray debacle (then 3rd + 7th to move 75% of his contract)
The Del Zotto debacle
The Dadonov debacle (losing a 1st round pick)
The DeBrincat debacle (losing a 7th OA pick)
The Chychrun debacle (as his value is going by the day) (losing a 12th OA pick)
The Korpisalo debacle

How is it EVEN POSSIBLE to cumulate such an horrifying list while IN A REBUILD?

I mean, rebuilding is not complicated! You pile on assets as much as possible

Pierre Dorion is mostly the worst GM in NHL history, yes, even worse than Milbury

Agreed; however, you have not listed the coaching moves he made!

 

[Cosmix]

Forsberg is a much better goalie than Korpisalo. He isn't the same since the injury but make no mistake he's better. Every shot feels like it's going in on Korpisalo. He over plays it and gets out if position or he just misses it.


Murray actually had some sort of track record.

Not a good one.

I don’t think the team quit at all. The Rangers were able to trap all third period.

I agree that the team did not quit; however, they did not play well at all. The players need some video reviews of their play and teaching to help them play a smarter game. Some group sessions watching the "mistakes" and pointing them out might "motivate" those who screwed up to play better. Embarrassment is earned!

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

We need to hold onto him. Goalies are hot and cold. Don't sell low. Take the cold season to get the hot one.

 

[Xspyrit]

Agreed; however, you have not listed the coaching moves he made!

Well, that part is too elite for me

Not a good one.

Matt Murray? He had an incredible track record before his last season in Pittsburgh, including dominating the AHL at a very young age

The problem was that he became "damaged goods" really fast as he kept getting injured with concussion issues on top of it

What I don’t understand is why Dorion thought he was suddenly going to stop being the most injury prone player in the NHL, as reflected by the massive contract he gave him

Dorion operated like random casual fans in the trade threads, pay anything to get the most recognizable names out there, throw it on the wall and hope it sticks

 

[albator71]

The number one problem with this team is goaltending period.
I guarantee you if Korpi was playing for Boston Boston would be outside the playoff right now
There's no structure that can overcome bad goaltending
From all the goalies that have played at least 15 games this season Korpisalo is ranked dead last #59 in Goals saved above Expected with -14.5 and Forsberg is ranked #54 with -7.9
Our goaltenders are sinking this team

 

[OD99]

The number one problem with this team is goaltending period.
I guarantee you if Korpi was playing for Boston Boston would be outside the playoff right now
There's no structure that can overcome bad goaltending
From all the goalies that have played at least 15 games this season Korpisalo is ranked dead last #59 in Goals saved above Expected with -14.5 and Forsberg is ranked #54 with -7.9
Our goaltenders are sinking this team

It shouldn't even be a discussion!

Yes, the team D needs to improve but the goaltending has been abysmally bad. Anyone who has played in front of brutal goaltending knows how hard it is and how your game changes in a bad way. It's human nature.

Until we get average NHL goaltending this team is near impossible to read.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I still mostly blame the team in front of him.

The team quit today against a far superior team

Yeah I’d quit too if my goalie played like that.

 

[Tuna99]

We need to hold onto him. Goalies are hot and cold. Don't sell low. Take the cold season to get the hot one.

korpisalo will be 30 years old in 6 weeks. He’s not hot-cold or learning he’s just not good

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

The number one problem with this team is goaltending period.
I guarantee you if Korpi was playing for Boston Boston would be outside the playoff right now
There's no structure that can overcome bad goaltending
From all the goalies that have played at least 15 games this season Korpisalo is ranked dead last #59 in Goals saved above Expected with -14.5 and Forsberg is ranked #54 with -7.9
Our goaltenders are sinking this team

100%

The goaltending is the number one reason this team is so fragile as well. It is a real confidence breaker when your goaltender is letting in beachballs.

I think there may be a little defensive structure, but it is 99% on the backbreaking goals that kill this team.

You are NEVER going to win after letting in 3 or 4 goals every night.

People want to blame the players and the coaches, but I think the last 2 or 3 years sit squarely on poor goaltending.

 

[Mr Hat]

Korpisalo is low on the list of issues for this team.
We have soft players up and down the line up
We have star players who don't know how to play defense
We have defenseman playing their offside
We have defenseman who don't have NHL ability or size
Worst of all, we have deep rooted loser mentality which can only change by shaking up the core and bringing in quality free agents from winning teams.

Low on the list? Korpi is low on the list, as the senators worst all time goalie for his salary. Who is worse than him, that makes even close to the cap hit? Korpi is an absolute anchor who deserves to be bought out and never be the #1 goalie again as he is awful. Is he the active worst goalie contract? Tell me who is worse?

Talking about D with no NHL ability while defending the worst starting goalie in the league. A solid team won’t stop Korpi from being on the misplay of the day every second game.

 

[Sens With Benefits]

Two problems and many more can exist at the same time. He not very good and the Sens system/structure is not very good.

Besides tonight the last few games he’s looked pretty good. Since they’ve changed goalie coaches.

But man that Kreider goal deflated the Sens. Yes the team should of responded better, but you can’t put them in that situation.

Buy him out and trade for a goalie. Free agent goalies this year are not great. Will definitely have to draft a goalie this year as well.

 

[Tuna99]

Low on the list? Korpi is low on the list, as the senators worst all time goalie for his salary. Who is worse than him, that makes even close to the cap hit? Korpi is an absolute anchor who deserves to be bought out and never be the #1 goalie again as he is awful. Is he the active worst goalie contract? Tell me who is worse?

Talking about D with no NHL ability while defending the worst starting goalie in the league. A solid team won’t stop Korpi from being on the misplay of the day every second game.

Korpisalo is a bad DJ at a good party