Kopitar signs 8year/$80M contract confirmed with link

[KINGS17]

All the Kopitar hate out here right now it is really hard to tell

Why is anyone that criticizes his play or his off season preparation immediately called a hater by some of you?

The man has a job to do. He is extremely well compensated to do that job. He isn't getting it done. That doesn't mean he is a bad person, or that he is hated.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Criticized and justifiably so. This guy is supposed to be one of our best players and a top player in the league, and he's playing like scrub. Soft as Charmin. If he wants to get paid, he needs to step up. Kopitar needs to dominate, dominate!

 

[KINGS17]

Criticized and justifiably so. This guy is supposed to be one of our best players and a top player in the league, and he's playing like scrub. Soft as Charmin. If he wants to get paid, he needs to step up. Kopitar needs to dominate, dominate!

Exactly. If anything it's I hate the morons in the media that write the kind of crap that make people think Kopitar is entitled to an 8-year, $72M+ deal.

Media folks will write that crap, then be back in 9 months calling it one of the worst contracts in the league.

At this point would any sane person that is really looking at his recent performance give him more that 4-5 years on a deal? I'm going to be really disappointed in Dean if he gives Kopitar a retirement contract until there is some evidence that Kopitar is interested in being a dominant player.

If he just wants to be a pretty good so-so player, that deserves a so-so contract.

 

[YP44]

Why is anyone that criticizes his play or his off season preparation immediately called a hater by some of you?

The man has a job to do. He is extremely well compensated to do that job. He isn't getting it done. That doesn't mean he is a bad person, or that he is hated.

1) i would never use the term "hater"
2) I was responding to a post that he has been "WASHED UP FRO YEARS" are you saying that poster was right?

I am not saying his criticism isn't justified but hat some (like the post I was responding to) have gone too far. Feels like a *****ball spiraling out of control.

 

[PJ Kings Hockey]

I feel like this perfectly captures what Kopi's agent is in for.

Cracked me up.

I looked up some stats on Kopitar at hockey-reference.com. Obviously you can see how Kopi's points per game have been declining from a high point in 2009. They have dropped from .988 to .810. But, in particular, I was looking at how his ratio of goals to total points has trended. One poster said an assist is worth the same amount of points as a goal. (Personally, I don't feel secondary assists should be equal in value to goals, but I digress.) Here is what I found:

Year G A Pts/GP
2006-07 20 + 41 = 61/72 GP G/G+A = 32.8%; PPG = .847
2007-08 32 + 45 = 77/82 GP G/G+A = 42%; PPG = .939
2008-09 27 + 39 = 66/82 GP G/G+A = 40.9%; PPG = .805
2009-10 34 + 47 = 81/82 GP G/G+A = 42%; PPG = .988
2010-11 25 + 48 = 73/75 GP G/G+A = 34.2%; PPG = .973
2011-12 25 + 51 = 76/82 GP G/G+A = 33%; PPG = .927
2012-13 10 + 32 = 42/47 GP G/G+A = 23.8%; PPG = .894 LOCKOUT
2013-14 29 + 41 = 70/82 GP G/G+A = 41.4%; PPG = .853
2014-15 16 + 48 = 64/79 GP G/G+A = 25%; PPG = .810

Also, while 2013 doesn't hold to this pattern, Kopi's goals/(goals + assists) ratio has declined from 2009. Simply put, we are complaining that Kopi has become too much of a perimeter player. You don't need to be close to the net to have an assist. What is the optimal ratio of goals to total points for Kopitar? If he feels that passing is a better option that shooting on many occasions, why is he no longer in prime scoring positions?

 

[KINGS17]

1) i would never use the term "hater"
2) I was responding to a post that he has been "WASHED UP FRO YEARS" are you saying that poster was right?

I am not saying his criticism isn't justified but hat some (like the post I was responding to) have gone too far. Feels like a *****ball spiraling out of control.

Okay, I understand. I think the poster was indeed being sarcastic. No one here believes Kopitar's play has been piss poor for years.

 

[KingsFan7824]

When you combine Kopitar's less than great play, and the struggles of the team, this contract situation couldn't have happened at a worse time.

 

[Fishhead]

They need to get this done ASAP, it's affecting his play. It's not the sole reason he's playing like an AHL'er, but it's contributing.

He's a professional, yeah, but he's still human.

 

[KINGS17]

They need to get this done ASAP, it's affecting his play. It's not the sole reason he's playing like an AHL'er, but it's contributing.

He's a professional, yeah, but he's still human.

Sure, five years $35M. Done deal.

He's been playing like a player that should be paid that kind of money for over a year now. Paying Kopitar a ridiculous amount of money, isn't going to make Kopitar a better player on the ice.

Yeah Kopitar's a nice guy, but this is still a business. Look, it doesn't get easier for a player as he gets older. It takes a special commitment like the one Brown made over the summer in terms of nutrition, getting enough rest, off season training, etc. NHL hockey isn't for every player that is around 30 years old or older. Kopitar can still contribute. It depends on how his contribution should be valued at this point.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Affecting his play? Like no one will offer him a contract? Please.

He needs to focus on shooting the puck and driving to the net.

 

[Quattro]

Okay, I understand. I think the poster was indeed being sarcastic. No one here believes Kopitar's play has been piss poor for years.

Kurrilino to the white courtesy phone, please.

 

[KINGS17]

Kurrilino to the white courtesy phone, please.

To be fair in that world it's Murray and Sutter's fault that Kopitar's play has been piss poor.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Don't forget Lewis, King, Gustav, and the gas attendant that sassed him while filling up his Maserati.

 

[KINGS17]

Don't forget Lewis, King, Gustav, and the gas attendant that sassed him while filling up his Maserati.

After last season and these first three games, I wonder what the ol' interior is looking like/feeling like these days.

Kurri, We love ya man.

 

[Fingolfin]

To put some of this into perspective, overall league scoring is down. I've taken the top 10 scorers in each of the years listed below and added some stats.

PPG = Kopitar's PPG
RNG = Range of PPG for the top 10 scorers that year.
AVG = Average PPG of the top 10 scorers that year.
DIFF = Difference between AVG and Kopitar's PPG that year.
RNK = Ranking Kopitar's differentials where 1 is closest to the top 10 AVG.

Year PPG RNG AVG DIFF RNK
2006-07 .847 1.17-1.52 1.27 .423 9
2007-08 .939 1.10-1.37 1.22 .281 6
2008-09 .805 1.07-1.39 1.20 .395 8
2009-10 .988 1.07-1.51 1.22 .232 5
2010-11 .973 1.00-1.27 1.12 .147 1
2011-12 .927 0.96-1.45 1.09 .163 2
2012-13 .894 1.04-1.56 1.18 .286 7
2013-14 .853 0.96-1.30 1.05 .197 3
2014-15 .810 0.93-1.09 1.01 .200 4

As you can see, the last two years were Kopitar's 3rd & 4th best season when comparing his PPG to the average of the top 10 scorers.

That's not to say he shouldn't be better, but he certainly hasn't "fallen off" as much as some folks like to claim.

 

[deeshamrock]

Darren Dreger said the Kings and Kopitar have agreed to the 8 yr term. He said the Kings made another offer on Monday but the two sides are not close yet on $$$.

 

[Reclamation Project]

RIP this board.

 

[Trolfoli]

I really don't know what you guys expect out of Kopitar. By the time he gets in the offensive zone, with the Kings breakout, then entire other team is back in defensive positions. You guys really expect him to go 1V4 and get a good opportunity? Maybe against the Oilers D. To add to it the Kings cycle hasn't be a scoring threat for years, so that's not going to change with his linemates doing face plants when they have the puck. There is no speed, no quick transition game. This leads to the offensive rushes being very predictable and easy to defend.

 

[Trolfoli]

Darren Dreger said the Kings and Kopitar have agreed to the 8 yr term. He said the Kings made another offer on Monday but the two sides are not close yet on $$$.

Great news!!!! Lock him up for a decade!!!

 

[deeshamrock]

Great news!!!! Lock him up for a decade!!!

8 yrs is too long, given he'll be 29 when it kicks in. Should have given him the dollars but only for 5 yrs.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Darren Dreger said the Kings and Kopitar have agreed to the 8 yr term. He said the Kings made another offer on Monday but the two sides are not close yet on $$$.

Where's the progress?

 

[KingsFan7824]

8 yrs is too long, given he'll be 29 when it kicks in. Should have given him the dollars but only for 5 yrs.

And that's why players wanted free agency. If they're wanted, they basically call the shots.

Kopitar knows the Kings have no other options. Who else are they bringing in? Eric Staal? Rebuild for 5 years? Weal as the 2nd center behind a disinterested Carter?

 

[Reclamation Project]

Staal? El oh el.

 

[TopT]

To put some of this into perspective, overall league scoring is down. I've taken the top 10 scorers in each of the years listed below and added some stats.

PPG = Kopitar's PPG
RNG = Range of PPG for the top 10 scorers that year.
AVG = Average PPG of the top 10 scorers that year.
DIFF = Difference between AVG and Kopitar's PPG that year.
RNK = Ranking Kopitar's differentials where 1 is closest to the top 10 AVG.

Year PPG RNG AVG DIFF RNK
2006-07 .847 1.17-1.52 1.27 .423 9
2007-08 .939 1.10-1.37 1.22 .281 6
2008-09 .805 1.07-1.39 1.20 .395 8
2009-10 .988 1.07-1.51 1.22 .232 5
2010-11 .973 1.00-1.27 1.12 .147 1
2011-12 .927 0.96-1.45 1.09 .163 2
2012-13 .894 1.04-1.56 1.18 .286 7
2013-14 .853 0.96-1.30 1.05 .197 3
2014-15 .810 0.93-1.09 1.01 .200 4

As you can see, the last two years were Kopitar's 3rd & 4th best season when comparing his PPG to the average of the top 10 scorers.

That's not to say he shouldn't be better, but he certainly hasn't "fallen off" as much as some folks like to claim.

making sense is not welcome here

 

[KINGS17]

To put some of this into perspective, overall league scoring is down. I've taken the top 10 scorers in each of the years listed below and added some stats.

PPG = Kopitar's PPG
RNG = Range of PPG for the top 10 scorers that year.
AVG = Average PPG of the top 10 scorers that year.
DIFF = Difference between AVG and Kopitar's PPG that year.
RNK = Ranking Kopitar's differentials where 1 is closest to the top 10 AVG.

Year PPG RNG AVG DIFF RNK
2006-07 .847 1.17-1.52 1.27 .423 9
2007-08 .939 1.10-1.37 1.22 .281 6
2008-09 .805 1.07-1.39 1.20 .395 8
2009-10 .988 1.07-1.51 1.22 .232 5
2010-11 .973 1.00-1.27 1.12 .147 1
2011-12 .927 0.96-1.45 1.09 .163 2
2012-13 .894 1.04-1.56 1.18 .286 7
2013-14 .853 0.96-1.30 1.05 .197 3
2014-15 .810 0.93-1.09 1.01 .200 4

As you can see, the last two years were Kopitar's 3rd & 4th best season when comparing his PPG to the average of the top 10 scorers.

That's not to say he shouldn't be better, but he certainly hasn't "fallen off" as much as some folks like to claim.

Respond to PJ Kings post please. Secondary assists are not the same as goals. Look at the shot charts posted earlier comparing Toews to Kopitar in terms of the number of shots taken and where they are taken from.

The trend is not in Kopitar's favor, and an 8-year deal would be a huge mistake. At least they aren't in the same ballpark when it comes to the dollar value. If it's 8 years that AAV better drop to around $7M.