norrisnick
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DeBrincat doesn't sniff anything remotely close to 7 this year, so 9 is certainly off the table.
That's the same thing. In both situations the player is UFA after two years.
Value of: Konecny
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Unless Armstrong is just posturing which could be possible. His presser today pretty much shot down any notion that they're interested in Konecny. Same could probably be said for Hanifin, although it was a little blurry in regards to extensions.
If they can get a 1st at the draft he’s a goner
Maybe another piece since they will have offers from a bunch of teams
He’s a good Ottawa fit after they move Debrincat
Maybe another piece since they will have offers from a bunch of teams
He’s a good Ottawa fit after they move Debrincat
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You're adding to that if you want Koncecny.
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Ottawa doesn't have a first or i would LOVE to figure a way to get Ridly Grieg from them.
That's what we thought about Laughton, and it's proven false with some late 1st offers being turned down.
But you think it's true for Konecny? Laughable.
norrisnick
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Am I reading this correctly? Philly turned down 1sts for Laughton?
No wonder Fletcher got shitcanned...
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Yes.
Laughton honestly is a good add for a 1st at this point. Versatile, plays the right way, cheap deal for a few years.
Listen I'm surprised we've gotten here as well, but he's a guy most teams look at and say "he really is what we need for a playoff run"
I think Briere has turned them down as well.
Which, you hope that with the odds of a prospect taken with a late 1st that the prospect eventually can become a Laughton, so it makes sense somewhat. He has 3x3 left on his contract so if you feel like he brings a lot of value to a young locker room, and you can get a late 1st at any TDL remaining in that contract, then it makes sense to hold out.
IMO Konecny is a far better goal scorer. He’s worth more then what Schenn brought back
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FWIW, Seravalli has amazing ties to Philly. He's probably telling the truth.
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Didn't want to create another thread, but curious if Philly would be open to moving him this year? They're currently in a playoff spot, but I feel they still need to gather a few high-end assets for the next core to play alongside Michkov and Gauthier.
As a Canucks fan, our biggest need is a high-energy 2-way winger to play with Pettersson, and Konecny fits the bill. The fact that he's signed for 1 more year is also a plus, as he fits the age of our core and should be re-signed for anything under $8m-$8.5m if possible. If he is available, what would Philly want in return?
A starting point from Van would be:
2024 1st
2025 2nd
Brzustewicz
Podkolzin
Garland
Pretty much upgrading Garland -> Konecny, though Garland is more than capable of putting up 50 points in a larger role. Too much, too little? Let me know!
*Note: If there's a deal where Konecny & Frost would be available, that would be great as well. Gives the Canucks flexibility more C/W flexibility and some added offensive depth.
As a Canucks fan, our biggest need is a high-energy 2-way winger to play with Pettersson, and Konecny fits the bill. The fact that he's signed for 1 more year is also a plus, as he fits the age of our core and should be re-signed for anything under $8m-$8.5m if possible. If he is available, what would Philly want in return?
A starting point from Van would be:
2024 1st
2025 2nd
Brzustewicz
Podkolzin
Garland
Pretty much upgrading Garland -> Konecny, though Garland is more than capable of putting up 50 points in a larger role. Too much, too little? Let me know!
*Note: If there's a deal where Konecny & Frost would be available, that would be great as well. Gives the Canucks flexibility more C/W flexibility and some added offensive depth.
Konecny is one of the low-cost gems in the NHL waiting to be acquired. Who is also completely retainable. Trot out 2 firsts as a starter to discussions.
I'd make Kuzmenko one of the centerpieces of the deal instead (not sure they'd value Garland); Konecny's the kind of gritty skilled winger Vancouver is looking for.
Counter:
1st 24 replaced by Lekkerimaki rw (1st 22)
2nd 25 by Raty c (2nd 21)
Brzu… off rd
Podkolzin w
Kuzmenko lw
As much as i like TK, i would look hard at such an offer.
Van 1st 24 is 29th as of today…
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The game with all the scouts Risto was the played that was overplayed and flyer fan speculation the player being showcased. The contract year d in Walker, Staal, and Seeler are possibles too.
If you are trading Risto and his 5m, it is fair to say you are looking to cap room for either
a free agent
b resign Hart
c re sign Konecky
d resign Walker for short term
Its what gm should be doing instead of Flusher go into panic mode every deadline and free agent period.
If given the choice of resigning Konecky or resigning Hart. I resign Konecky and trade Hart. Ersson has had a really good month and its not crazy to think he could be a 1. Ersson is a 1b at minimum. Not saying they won't resign both. But if its one or the other TK stays and Hart goes.
As far as the offer I wany zero none nada nil part of Garland and taking away the flyers ability to resign players in 24 and 25. He is a non starter. No contracts past 24. Certaintly not into 26. Not the worst offer. I have seen a whole lot worse than this. But still no.
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That wasn’t even the starter last year. This year it’s 3-4 or equal value.
Sam is not a 1b or c. He is a 2 at this point. 23 games is not enough to label him 1. Half his starts under .900
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Its a small sample size but last month he has looked like a POTENTIAL one. 2.1g gaa 915sv% last 30 days that is a 1b at min. As of today I am comfortable that at a mimimun he is a 30-32 games 1b goalie. First month Ersson stunk and its not surprising a young goalie wasn't ready to handle time off as a backup goalie. Its early and if you say lets wait the year out, I get it.
And the one reason the reason the flyers are playing well right now is they are getting quality goaltending every night. And Hart at his best is going to be a 50 games start goalie and not 60 games. Hart 48 Ersson 34 split works for me. Light years ahead of when Martin Jones types are your backup.
