Kitchener Rangers 2023-24 Off-Season Thread (Part 2)

[bobber]

I agree.
But we’re back to: of the five, who gets the B card?
Why would Xu sign this year and accept a B card when he can hold off on that to keep his options open which could result in us eventually losing him to the NCAA.

Would MM take that chance?


I assume you’re saying the Rangers could “guarantee him four years” means four years education package?

I think Xu was a flyer at best when they drafted him. Seemed to be quite a few players this year not fully committed to the OHL. I have no idea of what Ranger's intentions are at any given time. Xu may have no intention of ever playing in the OHL for all I know. I just liked what I read about the player. Watching clips of him playing he had that physical edge and seemed to make a good first pass out of the defensive end smoothly.
As far as education packages go I plead ignorance. Not at all sure how they hand those out and who gets them.

 

[EvenSteven]

I think Xu was a flyer at best when they drafted him. Seemed to be quite a few players this year not fully committed to the OHL. I have no idea of what Ranger's intentions are at any given time. Xu may have no intention of ever playing in the OHL for all I know. I just liked what I read about the player. Watching clips of him playing he had that physical edge and seemed to make a good first pass out of the defensive end smoothly.
As far as education packages go I plead ignorance. Not at all sure how they hand those out and who gets them.

True. But he may have been a flyer for Sioux Falls as well considering he didn’t go first couple rounds in their draft, him being as highly ranked as he was.

That, along with him not yet committing there, when others have long committed to leagues other than the OHL, gives me room for optimism.

 

[K2]

As far as education packages go I plead ignorance. Not at all sure how they hand those out and who gets them.

Everyone gets the standard package of a year's minimum (tuition & books) scholarship per year played and we can have up to 7 'gold packages' on the books where a four year scholarship including room & board is guaranteed upon one game played. Safe to assume that all 1st rounders on roster probably have gold packages, maybe other coveted players we signed and anyone we gave one to that's still within 18 months of OHL OA eligibility holds their option.

We probably can't hand Xu a gold package 'off the shelf' so he's exploring USHL/NCAA options if he's academically inclined. Sioux Falls, nice as it is, really is a very different place in the world than the GTA which may tilt in our favour.

 

[rangersblues]

Everyone gets the standard package of a year's minimum (tuition & books) scholarship per year played and we can have up to 7 'gold packages' on the books where a four year scholarship including room & board is guaranteed upon one game played. Safe to assume that all 1st rounders on roster probably have gold packages, maybe other coveted players we signed and anyone we gave one to that's still within 18 months of OHL OA eligibility holds their option.

We probably can't hand Xu a gold package 'off the shelf' so he's exploring USHL/NCAA options if he's academically inclined. Sioux Falls, nice as it is, really is a very different place in the world than the GTA which may tilt in our favour.

If the league really wants to keep attracting the top talent it wouldn't hurt to raise the number of Gold Packages each team can offer to 8 or 9. I'm pretty sure they have the means to do so. Also, a lot of the players getting the Gold Packages are top players that never use them.

 

[EvenSteven]

If the league really wants to keep attracting the top talent it wouldn't hurt to raise the number of Gold Packages each team can offer to 8 or 9. I'm pretty sure they have the means to do so. Also, a lot of the players getting the Gold Packages are top players that never use them.

I think the reason they cap it at seven is to not give richer teams unfair advantages.

Teams pay for these gold packages and the Londons and Kitcheners of the world can easily give out an infinite amount while teams that haven’t watch their dollars and cents cannot.

 

[dirty12]

If the league really wants to keep attracting the top talent it wouldn't hurt to raise the number of Gold Packages each team can offer to 8 or 9. I'm pretty sure they have the means to do so. Also, a lot of the players getting the Gold Packages are top players that never use them.

At least offer a guaranteed standard four years. The better players not going pro with good grades will get room plus board from Canadian universities

 

[Storm and Rangers]

Can people see Misaljevic being traded to a team with OA slots available for a veteran (2005/2006) D-Man?

 

[rangersblues]

I think the reason they cap it at seven is to not give richer teams unfair advantages.

Teams pay for these gold packages and the Londons and Kitcheners of the world can easily give out an infinite amount while teams that haven’t watch their dollars and cents cannot.

I do agree with the cap for the reason you state. I just think it's a little low.

 

[EvenSteven]

Can people see Misaljevic being traded to a team with OA slots available for a veteran (2005/2006) D-Man?

I can see that. We have to get down to three OA’s at some point.

 

[East Avenue Bully]

I think the reason they cap it at seven is to not give richer teams unfair advantages.

Teams pay for these gold packages and the Londons and Kitcheners of the world can easily give out an infinite amount while teams that haven’t watch their dollars and cents cannot.

How would the league monitor that?

 

[bobber]

How would the league monitor that?

They talk about parity. With top prospects refusing to commit to certain teams it will never be an even playing field. Guess that's why they keep a lid on education packages.

 

[EvenSteven]

How would the league monitor that?

After a law suit years ago, the league now directly administers all education packages to the player after the team sends the $$ to the league.

https://thehockeynews.com/ohl/latest-news/one-young-man-takes-on-the-ohl

I assume that any education packages paid out from team directly to player would be a violation?

 

[Habsrule]

Can people see Misaljevic being traded to a team with OA slots available for a veteran (2005/2006) D-Man?

I personally don’t think he has any trade value.

He was great the first half of the year and in the top 10 in points for a while. The second half of the year happened and he was not very productive.

He is pretty small, doesn’t play a physical game, doesn’t kill penalties. He is there for his offence and last year at 19 was his first productive year. So small sample size. I don’t think that he would be too big of an upgrade to most teams for an overage spot.

 

[Petes1987]

I personally don’t think he has any trade value.

He was great the first half of the year and in the top 10 in points for a while. The second half of the year happened and he was not very productive.

He is pretty small, doesn’t play a physical game, doesn’t kill penalties. He is there for his offence and last year at 19 was his first productive year. So small sample size. I don’t think that he would be too big of an upgrade to most teams for an overage spot.

With the stats he had Kitchener may get at most a 3rd and 5th and more likely a 4th and a 5th. Connor Lockhart who had 79 points with the Petes in 2022-2023 was traded for a 3rd and a 5th last season.

 

[EvenSteven]

I personally don’t think he has any trade value.

He was great the first half of the year and in the top 10 in points for a while. The second half of the year happened and he was not very productive.

He is pretty small, doesn’t play a physical game, doesn’t kill penalties. He is there for his offence and last year at 19 was his first productive year. So small sample size. I don’t think that he would be too big of an upgrade to most teams for an overage spot.

I don’t think he has a ton of trade value either. So the D man we’d get in return (the question asked) would be of comparable value.

 

[Krangers08]

Did anyone go to the meeting that was open to the public last night? Anything note worthy come out of it?

 

[OnlyUpFromHere49]

Did anyone go to the meeting that was open to the public last night? Anything note worthy come out of it?

Nothing really… just about the process of the committee moving from 39 to 9 over the next year. The current 9 executives will serve as the 9 person committee for this season and then an official process will take place to fill it next year.

 

[EvenSteven]

Curious. Any mention of how they’ll replace the volunteer contributions of the members who’re now no longer part of the directorship.

Or will those people still be status quo in all facets except they are no longer actual directors?

 

[bobber]

Curious. Any mention of how they’ll replace the volunteer contributions of the members who’re now no longer part of the directorship.

Or will those people still be status quo in all facets except they are no longer actual directors?

The few I know won't be around if there is nothing in it for them. There were some that previously got season tickets for life before these changes.

 

[Krangers08]

Parsons has been invited to La Kings development camp.

 

[GeoBlue]

The few I know won't be around if there is nothing in it for them. There were some that previously got season tickets for life before these changes.

Here here! Trim the fat, I say!

 

[frontsfan67]

Parsons has been invited to La Kings development camp.

That’s a good look for a 19 year old previously undrafted goaltender

 

[Rangers True Blue]

True. But he may have been a flyer for Sioux Falls as well considering he didn’t go first couple rounds in their draft, him being as highly ranked as he was.

That, along with him not yet committing there, when others have long committed to leagues other than the OHL, gives me room for optimism.

And I'd be interested to know whether Xu made the final top 40 at that camp who will go on to Sioux Falls August team camp.

 

[Jives]

And I'd be interested to know whether Xu made the final top 40 at that camp who will go on to Sioux Falls August team camp.

I would be pretty certain he does. He should have gone 2nd round in OHL. Good chance he make the team.

 

[Rangers True Blue]

I would be pretty certain he does. He should have gone 2nd round in OHL. Good chance he make the team.

Not so sure he even played in the final game. No roster for that final 40 online that I could find.