Kitchener Rangers 2022-23 Season Thread

[MVarley]

Gary was

I was a the game, but to be fair, the Rangers new play by play guys are very, very pro Rangers. Same guys that ripped the Rangers fans for booing a Rangers player last year if I remember correctly? I miss Garry Doyle, way less loud and a bit more calm, measured, but hey, I'm old

great and so was Don Cameron

 

[Gondrex]

I was a the game, but to be fair, the Rangers new play by play guys are very, very pro Rangers. Same guys that ripped the Rangers fans for booing a Rangers player last year if I remember correctly? I miss Garry Doyle, way less loud and a bit more calm, measured, but hey, I'm old

AttackBeacher, I know where you're coming from. I prefer a balanced approach from the broadcasters. Some are better than others. In the televised game vs Kingston a few weeks ago, I was impressed with the Analyst/colour commentator who just so happened to be a young girl (relative my age anyway ). You could tell she did a lot of homework before the game in gathering info on the Rangers. She gave the home audience a very good background of the visiting team. Very impressed....5 stars in my opinion. I wish all did even a fraction of the research this gal did !

Gary Doyle did do a good job on the play-by-play. Ironically, and maybe it gave me a bit of a chuckle, is thinking of how he had changed. However when he was Don Cameron's colour commentator back in the '90's, on the good old NOOF, there were a lot of complaints from fans of other teams stating how biased and a big complainer Gary was (LOL).

 

[bobber]

I was a the game, but to be fair, the Rangers new play by play guys are very, very pro Rangers. Same guys that ripped the Rangers fans for booing a Rangers player last year if I remember correctly? I miss Garry Doyle, way less loud and a bit more calm, measured, but hey, I'm old

Hi AttackBeacher are you talking about Farwell? He seems to be auditioning for some part in a WWE movie. He should lay off the Red Bulls. We hadn't listened to him on the radio in a long time. We tuned in to the Erie game. He is loud and overbearing. Needs to tone it down. It is only junior hockey after all. Couldn't you find him a nice job on the radio at 560 Owen Sound? Please.

 

[AttackBeacher]

Hi AttackBeacher are you talking about Farwell? He seems to be auditioning for some part in a WWE movie. He should lay off the Red Bulls. We hadn't listened to him on the radio in a long time. We tuned in to the Erie game. He is loud and overbearing. Needs to tone it down. It is only junior hockey after all. Couldn't you find him a nice job on the radio at 560 Owen Sound? Please.

Actually no, the younger guys who do the broadcast on TV, very loud. Very brash, cocky.

Ive never listed to him, he does seem to want to make some hot takes from time to time, I remember him tweeting how Ryan McGill was a dick once lol.

 

[bobber]

Actually no, the younger guys who do the broadcast on TV, very loud. Very brash, cocky.

Ive never listed to him, he does seem to want to make some hot takes from time to time, I remember him tweeting how Ryan McGill was a dick once lol.

The Roger guys I take with a grain of salt. I think they are mostly volunteers. Most of them are homers on the individual broadcast around the league. I don't think the players even take them to seriously during interviews.

 

[AttackBeacher]

The Roger guys I take with a grain of salt. I think they are mostly volunteers. Most of them are homers on the individual broadcast around the league. I don't think the players even take them to seriously during interviews.

Oh for sure, context of the post was that the poster suggested that the offside call last night was actually offside because the broadcasters said so.

If it benefitted the Rangers, they pretty much say whatever

 

[Tim Wallach]

Oh for sure, context of the post was that the poster suggested that the offside call last night was actually offside because the broadcasters said so.

If it benefitted the Rangers, they pretty much say whatever

For what it's worth, Farwell and Pope said they didn't see any clear evidence it was offside from the angles they have. So at least on that point, broadcast homerism wasn't an issue.

Counterpoint - the person beside me called it instantly before any review. He was watching the line change and said right away that it was offside on the line change. So..... that's all I've got.

 

[EvenSteven]

I was a the game, but to be fair, the Rangers new play by play guys are very, very pro Rangers. Same guys that ripped the Rangers fans for booing a Rangers player last year if I remember correctly? I miss Garry Doyle, way less loud and a bit more calm, measured, but hey, I'm old

To be honest, Doyle was arrogant and talked down to most people, even his counterparts in other rinks around the O. Definitely not a favourite in media rooms around the league - home and away. That being said, I’d take his colour commentating over what we have now, even with his incessant whining.

It’s aggravating listening to Farwell and Pope trying to do their best impression of a cross between FM radio morning drive shtick / Tim and Sid.
I believe that Pope is more responsible for this act. The odd time Farwell goes solo on the road, he actually puts forth a professional broadcast. Not lost on me is the fact that Pope isn’t on Farwell’s OHL podcast this year.

He isn’t missed.

 

[AttackBeacher]

To be honest, Doyle was arrogant and talked down to most people, even his counterparts in other rinks around the O. Definitely not a favourite in media rooms around the league - home and away. That being said, I’d take his colour commentating over what we have now, even with his incessant whining.

It’s aggravating listening to Farwell and Pope trying to do their best impression of a cross between FM radio morning drive shtick / Tim and Sid.
I believe that Pope is more responsible for this act. The odd time Farwell goes solo on the road, he actually puts forth a professional broadcast. Not lost on me is the fact that Pope isn’t on Farwell’s OHL podcast this year.

He isn’t missed.

I just found the way he called games less theatrical then the current group.

To be honest, Doyle was arrogant and talked down to most people, even his counterparts in other rinks around the O. Definitely not a favourite in media rooms around the league - home and away. That being said, I’d take his colour commentating over what we have now, even with his incessant whining.

It’s aggravating listening to Farwell and Pope trying to do their best impression of a cross between FM radio morning drive shtick / Tim and Sid.
I believe that Pope is more responsible for this act. The odd time Farwell goes solo on the road, he actually puts forth a professional broadcast. Not lost on me is the fact that Pope isn’t on Farwell’s OHL podcast this year.

He isn’t missed.

I just see him on twitter and have heard some podcasts. I agree there is a bit of 'hot take' to him, but I guess that the business. Not for me, I just don't listen. Easy for me

 

[Gondrex]

Regarding Sop, I'm going to give him credit here. He is chipping in with the odd goal and assist here and there. Although he won't put up the points that some of his teammates do, his production actually appears to be a bit more consistent than a couple of players on the 2nd line - or so it seems. Projecting out, point-wise he actually may even have a chance of cracking the top 100 in the league (yeah, I know extrapolation isn't a perfect science).

Looking to next year, he could be a "decent OA" considering that this will not likely be a contending team in '23-'24. Also, from time to time some seemingly average players can end up having a big OA year. If the Rangers end up tweaking this line-up for a run this season, I'm personally starting to view Sop as a decent (offensively), competitive, veteran 3rd line center, and will gladly admit that to this point he has been proving me wrong.

 

[MVarley]

Oh for sure, context of the post was that the poster suggested that the offside call last night was actually offside because the broadcasters said so.

If it benefitted the Rangers, they pretty much say whatever

i meant the announcer at the game stated offside not the broadcasters on TV or Radio

 

[bobber]

What is the nature of Swick's injury? On the Sop point he did seem to be quite noticeable last night. This team needs to get more production throughout the line up to keep trending up. One line just doesn't cut it. Unless maybe it's the London Knights.

 

[AttackBeacher]

i meant the announcer at the game stated offside not the broadcasters on TV or Radio

Sorry I guess I don't get the post then. No one doubted that they referees called it offside, it was either it actually was offside. I don't think the in rink announcer is going to say 'Goal called off due to offside, even thou I think it wasn't '

Everyone knew why it was called back, just not sure if it was the right call.

 

[RichieRice]

What is the nature of Swick's injury? On the Sop point he did seem to be quite noticeable last night. This team needs to get more production throughout the line up to keep trending up. One line just doesn't cut it. Unless maybe it's the London Knights.

Josh Brown says Swick is ill, not injured. No idea what he's got although the coach says he's "coming along".

 

[Ward Cornell]

Hi AttackBeacher are you talking about Farwell? He seems to be auditioning for some part in a WWE movie. He should lay off the Red Bulls. We hadn't listened to him on the radio in a long time. We tuned in to the Erie game. He is loud and overbearing. Needs to tone it down. It is only junior hockey after all. Couldn't you find him a nice job on the radio at

For what it's worth, Farwell and Pope said they didn't see any clear evidence it was offside from the angles they have. So at least on that point, broadcast homerism wasn't an issue.

Counterpoint - the person beside me called it instantly before any review. He was watching the line change and said right away that it was offside on the line change. So..... that's all I've got.

100% on the line change....the player was just about to step through the gate in the defensive zone when the puck was just entering the zone. The broadcasters and fans were concentrating on the puck carrier and the other skater and ignoring the player leaving the ice.

*Note...maybe the Rangers should move the visiting teams bench entirely in the defensive zone!!

 

[Coaches Coroner]

What is the nature of Swick's injury? On the Sop point he did seem to be quite noticeable last night. This team needs to get more production throughout the line up to keep trending up. One line just doesn't cut it. Unless maybe it's the London Knights.

Unless you have Thachuk-Dvorak-Marner, it's hard to win without more than 1 line.

 

[Rangers True Blue]

What is the nature of Swick's injury? On the Sop point he did seem to be quite noticeable last night. This team needs to get more production throughout the line up to keep trending up. One line just doesn't cut it. Unless maybe it's the London Knights.

Wondered about Swick as well. Was told "illness"....
It's been dragging on. Hope it's not mono.

100% on the line change....the player was just about to step through the gate in the defensive zone when the puck was just entering the zone. The broadcasters and fans were concentrating on the puck carrier and the other skater and ignoring the player leaving the ice.

*Note...maybe the Rangers should move the visiting teams bench entirely in the defensive zone!!

Yup. Saw it happen. Also saw an official talking to CD and pointing down to the OS bench.

 

[rangersblues]

Unless you have Thachuk-Dvorak-Marner, it's hard to win without more than 1 line.

That team had a lot more than the Marner line, but that line was definitely dominant. Possibly the best junior line ever.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

That team had a lot more than the Marner line, but that line was definitely dominant. Possibly the best junior line ever.

I watched almost every Knights game that year. They had a good 3rd checking line and solid 2nd line, but the top line did the bulk of the scoring regular season and playoffs and got an absurd amount of ice time some nights. Knights fans were sometimes annoyed with how much double shifting Dale was doing of that top line. They may as well have only had 9 forwards and some nights used the top line so heavily they could have dressed 6 forwards.

 

[Gondrex]

That team had a lot more than the Marner line, but that line was definitely dominant. Possibly the best junior line ever.

Definitely one heck of a trio.
As a kid, I like a few others here, thought the Harris-Gardner-Shutt line was pretty amazing in its time. In '71 they scored 171 points in 49 games. I guess hard to compare the two lines that were about 35 years apart.

 

[Millpond]

100% on the line change....the player was just about to step through the gate in the defensive zone when the puck was just entering the zone. The broadcasters and fans were concentrating on the puck carrier and the other skater and ignoring the player leaving the ice.

*Note...maybe the Rangers should move the visiting teams bench entirely in the defensive zone!!

How did the linesman miss it ?

 

[rangersblues]

I watched almost every Knights game that year. They had a good 3rd checking line and solid 2nd line, but the top line did the bulk of the scoring regular season and playoffs and got an absurd amount of ice time some nights. Knights fans were sometimes annoyed with how much double shifting Dale was doing of that top line. They may as well have only had 9 forwards and some nights used the top line so heavily they could have dressed 6 forwards.

One thing I recall was the 3rd line could shut down the opposing top line which freed up London's top line to play against the opposition bottom lines. Created huge mismatches.

Gondrex - the Shutt, Gardner, Harris line would be the line that would be comparable to the Marner line.

 

[Slowpace]

That team had a lot more than the Marner line, but that line was definitely dominant. Possibly the best junior line ever.

Definitely one of the best junior lines all time, however, as you said that team had a lot more. Robbie Thomas, Max Jones, Victor Mete are 3 I can think of off the top, that are still in NHL, there's likely more.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Definitely one of the best junior lines all time, however, as you said that team had a lot more. Robbie Thomas, Max Jones, Victor Mete are 3 I can think of off the top, that are still in NHL, there's likely more.

Thomas was a 15 point rookie that year. Great player but wasn't what he would be just a year later.

 

[bobber]

Kitchener F Mitch Martin out long-term with an upper body injury. G Jackson Parsons also hurt, upper body, no timeline yet.