Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

[Natey]

Yeah he was very good on night 1 and night 3. I didn't really watch night 2.

 

[jrom]

I'd be curious to see Caufield/Monahan/Dach and xx/Suzuki/Anderson Feels like Dach needs a scorer to finish his plays.

 

[tooji]

I'd be curious to see Caufield/Monahan/Dach and xx/Suzuki/Anderson Feels like Dach needs a scorer to finish his plays.

Yeah Dach needs a goal scoring winger. Not sure if Monahan will actually regain his old form.

 

[SlafySZN]

I'd be curious to see Caufield/Monahan/Dach and xx/Suzuki/Anderson Feels like Dach needs a scorer to finish his plays.

Dach needs to be at center though, he’s way better there than on the wing. But yes, i’d try to switch it up a little for next game.

I’m down to try Caufield-Dach-Monahan or something like:

Monahan-Suzuki-?
Caufield-Dach-Anderson

 

[Dutronc]

Maybe it's an hommage to Howie Morenz?

Nah its for Kiril Kabanov, the one and only

 

[Hostile Offer]

Dach needs to be at center though, he’s way better there than on the wing. But yes, i’d try to switch it up a little for next game.

I’m down to try Caufield-Dach-Monahan or something like:

Monahan-Suzuki-?
Caufield-Dach-Anderson

Who's going to take faceoffs for Dach? That's why Monahan is on his line.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Who's going to take faceoffs for Dach? That's why Monahan is on his line.

You let Dach take them as it's a development year and the weird thing about skills is that you actually need to practice them to get better.

 

[morhilane]

You let Dach take them as it's a development year and the weird thing about skills is that you actually need to practice them to get better.

and Dach was at 63% last night. He took 8 of them and Monahan took 10. It's looks like taking faceoffs on your strong side really makes you good at it. They should probably do the opposite, so they can improve the other side.

 

[Skip Bayless]

He's playing good hockey. But the entire team is out of synch.

 

[BLONG7]

He's playing good hockey. But the entire team is out of synch.

Absolutely agree................the Suzuki line has been working well, but the rest seem disjointed.
Dach has been playing well but needs Slaf to be added to his wing.
No one other than the 1st line are shooting the puck....way too much over passing.

 

[WinterLion]

You let Dach take them as it's a development year and the weird thing about skills is that you actually need to practice them to get better.

Especially faceoffs. It's pretty rare for young guys to be good at it right away.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Dach needs to be at center though, he’s way better there than on the wing. But yes, i’d try to switch it up a little for next game.

I’m down to try Caufield-Dach-Monahan or something like:

Monahan-Suzuki-?
Caufield-Dach-Anderson

Monahan-Suzuki-Caufield
Slaf-Dach-Anderson
Pitlick-Dvorak-Gallagher
Pezzetta-Evans-Armia/Ylonen

Waive at least two of the three floaters.

 

[BaseballCoach]

He's playing good hockey. But the entire team is out of synch.

3 goalposts can make you look out of sync.

 

[1909]

They had no intention of trading Romanov for a pick if it wasn’t to get Dach.

So drafting with the pick is in people’s imagination.

Plus they didn’t acquire Dach so he can be the absolute best he can be this year, so even if he doesn’t have 40 points at the deadline doesn’t mean you’re ‘’right’’.

Right. Isles Pick #13 was the price to pay. Chicago demanded it.

 

[malcb33]

Monahan-Suzuki-Caufield
Slaf-Dach-Anderson
Pitlick-Dvorak-Gallagher
Pezzetta-Evans-Armia/Ylonen

Waive at least two of the three floaters.

I like this line-up! The only thing I would maybe change is Anderson and Monahan because I think Dach needs defensive support, and I'm not sure Slaf or Anderson can provide it!

 

[Skip Bayless]

3 goalposts can make you look out of sync.

3 goals wouldn't change that

 

[HuGort]

I’d take the 60 points big two-way center plus our own 70-80 points goal scorer winger (Caufield) any day than a ? Nazar even if i liked him at the draft.

Dach has no shot. Looks like another KK. A 45 point winger. Not strong on puck, can't win a faceoff. If he can improve his shot could take his game to another level. be 30 goal scorer

 

[HuGort]

Of all people on this board, I would think you would be the one to make the distinction between a prospect who scored seventy-two GOALS in his draft year for the US NTDP and a prospect who had seventy total points at the same level in his draft year

It's not that Nazar is a bust or a bad prospect, it's that the hysteria this summer about passing up on the vaunted Frank Nazar for the apparent ultra risky gamble of Kirby Dach was pretty over the top. Nazar is not some can't miss prospect with eye-popping production or a singularly valuable skill like Caufield was as a goal scorer. He's a good prospect who I'd probably put as a 2C in the best case with room to fall back as a middle six winger or 3C given his compete.

Nothing wrong with that kind of prospect and I'd love to have him, but it's also not some kind of windfall who you absolutely can't pass up if they drop into your lap the way Caufield was as a prospect. It's perfectly reasonable to believe that Nazar would be a better asset than Dach, but the idea that Dach was some wild crazy gamble relative to picking Nazar just never made any sense to me.

Nazar could go on to be another Caufield. I probably would have traded the 13th pick down and took Schaefer. He big, physical decent hands. Hard package to find. Plus, Pick up a first in next draft for doing so. The 3.5m extra caproom I probably retain on Dadanov or Drouin to another team to move them

 

[jrom]

Dach has no shot. Looks like another KK. A 45 point winger. Not strong on puck, can't win a faceoff. If he can improve his shot could take his game to another level. be 30 goal scorer

Being a C is more then taking FO (and by the way Dach has been doing fine even if it’s mostly taking them on his strong side).

He won’t be a goal scorer but he’s tenacious and generate scoring chances, responsible defensively. At 21y he’s probably our 3rd best forward and still has a lot of dev ahead of him.

 

[HuGort]

Being a C is more then taking FO (and by the way Dach has been doing fine even if it’s mostly taking them on his strong side).

He won’t be a goal scorer but he’s tenacious and generate scoring chances, responsible defensively. At 21y he’s probably our 3rd best forward and still has a lot of dev ahead of him.

He's got to be able to win faceoffs offensive zone. Need puck control, Leads to more goals. To play on top 2 lines. He's going to be drawing against generally defensive faceoff artists

 

[jrom]

He's got to be able to win faceoffs offensive zone. Need puck control, Leads to more goals. To play on top 2 lines. He's going to be drawing against generally defensive faceoff artists

It’s all we hear about Dach “FO FO”. Yes he has to improve this aspect which usually takes time to young C like he is.

But the rest of his play ?? Which forwards on this team is playing better currently ?

Even Caufield was very discrete against Detroit and Washington.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I like this line-up! The only thing I would maybe change is Anderson and Monahan because I think Dach needs defensive support, and I'm not sure Slaf or Anderson can provide it!

Dach does not particularly need defensive support . Also switching Monahan and Anderson puts two wingers on their wrong sides, which hurts the defensive zone coverge to begin with.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

You let Dach take them as it's a development year and the weird thing about skills is that you actually need to practice them to get better.

This. Dach is 22, or 21, not 28. Let him struggle and let Monahan teach him what he did wrong and let him improve.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

the end lol

 

[Rob Sense]

This. Dach is 22, or 21, not 28. Let him struggle and let Monahan teach him what he did wrong and let him improve.

he is 21. He has played well so far.