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Kings who could be traded this summer

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Statto said:
I’m not saying Kassian is the right guy, but from a cap perspective that type of trade would be better than the current position and address a need on the main roster. If the alternative is burying him Cal the minors, then it’s definitely an option to consider. Anyone in that role is going to cost 2M+, especially via free agency.
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Exactly. Kassian has 1 year at 3.2 million. So he is playing to stay in the league for his next deal. Don't you think he will have a chip on his shoulder against Edmonton?

Peterson has 2 years at 5 million.
 
chris kontos said:
Yet another questionable move by the brain trust
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Eh, I kind of get it. They only had so many players to protect. This is who they protected:

Lias Andersson (F)
Viktor Arvidsson (F)
Dustin Brown (F)
Alex Iafallo (F)
Adrian Kempe (F)
Anze Kopitar (F)
Trevor Moore (F)
Drew Doughty (D)
Matt Roy (D)
Sean Walker (D)
Calvin Petersen (G)

This was before Walker had his season-long injury. And since MacDermid was considered a D, it was either replacing him or going with 8 skaters + 1 G.

Now, you could argue that the Kings could have offered them a pick NOT to take MacDermid (maybe a 5th would've sufficed?) but I also wouldn't have thought he'd be taken. This is who Seattle could have taken:

Andreas Athanasiou (F)
Michael Eyssimont (F)
Martin Frk (F)
Carl Grundstrom (F)
Bokondji Imama (F)
Brendan Lemieux (F)
Blake Lizotte (F)
Matt Luff (F)
Drake Rymsha (F)
Austin Wagner (F)
Mark Alt (D)
Daniel Brickley (D)
Kale Clague (D)
Olli Maatta (D)
Kurtis MacDermid (D)
Jacob Moverare (D)
Austin Strand (D)
Christian Wolanin (D)
Troy Grosenick (G)
Jonathan Quick (G)
 
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Johnny Utah said:
Kings should look at the following players via UFA at forward:

Milan Lucic
Ryan Reaves
Nick Ritchie
Miles Wood
Garnet Hathaway
Tyler Bertuzzi (too much money likely, but Kings looked at him before)

On D:
Ryan Graves
Ian Cole
Carson Soucy (too much money likely)
Nathan Beaulieu
Andreas Englund

If the Kings can get one of those forwards in the bottom 6 and one of those D in Edler's spot, this would make the team a lot of harder to play against.

BTW those are all Left Handed D - I left out RHD like Gudas, Mayfield, Schenn, etc.

In terms of trade, I would look hard at Nick Seeler in Phily. He has ties to the Kings organization. Same with Deslauries - seems like the Flyers might move anyone now.

Also, if the Kings want to dump salary, how about Cal Peterson plus a pick for Zack Kassian.

We have to figure we will be battling Kane, Kostin, and Nurse for the next few years and the only counter we had was to play McEwen.
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Great. They will be tougher.

But how are they going to win when their best players aren't good enough anymore and don't have the physical stamina to be at the top of their game in even the first series of a run?
 
kings11 said:
At this point that doesn’t matter, the damage is done and is getting worse thanks to the FO and Todd trying to compete for the cup and still trying to develop their kids..
unless, Byfield breaks out, Clarke is Doughty 2.0 and Turcotte salvages his career and becomes Richards 2.0, this half ass experiment his going the way of the Hindenburg!
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I see, when was a good time then? You know, a time when it would have matterered.
 
Statto said:
Nice post. A couple of thoughts:

Theres a pretty good chance Byfield starts at 3C, especially as they see his future through the middle. That creates a regular top 9 wing spot that I suspect Kaliyev is favourite for. As you say a winger likely gets moved also for cap reasons and there is a case for Roy (back that in a moment). They need some grit on the wing to replace the vet winger, but one that can play a bit so we are looking at 2M+ for that so that’s not enough cap to free up.

So Roy, given he likely commands a big pay rise after this year and his value has never been higher NOW is the time to trade him. It’s a hard decision but it’s the tough decisions that count. We could have a right side of Doughty, Clarke and Spence and whilst not gritty it’s only Spence that is truly small. even if Clarke has muscle to add. So we need to balance that out on the left, Anderson, Gavrikov and another LD. That’s where I reluctantly trade Björnfot to get some grit and hopefully someone that can play enough minutes to be trusted. Probably someone in the 2M range, maybe 2.5. Remember Roy played his best hockey with Gavrikov, before then he was at times awful and a turnover machine. Hence I sell high because without Gavrikov he will likely slip back anyway. Gavrikov with Clarke (or Spence) is an exciting proposition.

So me, I bring in bottom 6 gritty winger, shutdown LD.

Out: Roy, Arvidsson, Bjornföt, Walker

Durzi 7D (We need someone with experience to play 7D until someone is ready in Ontario).

The problem is that whilst I think it gives a more balance lineup I cannot see that many moves being made unfortunately. My thoughts aren’t just for next season which is why I’d suck up the Clarke/Spence growing pains whilst also acquiring some decent assets/picks on the way.

Fantasy on my part, I’m fully aware.
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Agree that Byfield or even Vilardi could start the season at 3C. This would probably be fine, just like Lizotte for the regular season. It would be the easier solution, no trade, no extra cap. The issue is just in the playoffs.
1) Toss Byfield, Vilardi in at C. Trade for a center at the deadline if needed.

2) Keep them on wing & bring in a Danault clone or better in the Summer.

Option 1 is easier, Option 2 makes for a much better playoff team.

D: Just want a long term stable partner for Clarke brought in. Roy could be moved as well if they don't plan on re-signing him. Too many bodies on D. Someone needs to move out. Durzi would be fine as a 3rd pair. Almost 20 min a night on his offside might be a bit much.

Doughty is unlikely to be moved. Without a starting goalie, sorry Pheonix, what is the point of keeping him? He'll be 37 at the end of his contract in four years & it very well could take half that time to move Cal out & get a legit starting goalie.
 
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Blakes moment to shine right now...he has assets that can be moved to get a more balanced roster. If he stands pat and doesnt move Walker or Durzi, will be really tell the tail of his tenure as GM.
 
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FSL KINGS said:
Doughty is unlikely to be moved. Without a starting goalie, sorry Pheonix, what is the point of keeping him? He'll be 37 at the end of his contract in four years & it very well could take half that time to move Cal out & get a legit starting goalie.
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What's the point of thinking about the roster without Doughty on it for the next 4 years? There's nothing from him or the team that even hints at him not being here, certainly for next year, and very likely for the 3 years after that, so why bother entertaining the concept? Of course the smarter thing to do is trade him for literally anything and just re-do the rebuild, but it's not happening. The point of keeping him is that he's Drew Doughty, has 2 Cups as a King(even though the actual men on those teams had to keep him in check), and they want to win another one with him. Doesn't matter how dumb the plan is, that's what they want. All they've done since drafting Clarke is reinforce that idea.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
What's the point of thinking about the roster without Doughty on it for the next 4 years? There's nothing from him or the team that even hints at him not being here, certainly for next year, and very likely for the 3 years after that, so why bother entertaining the concept? Of course the smarter thing to do is trade him for literally anything and just re-do the rebuild, but it's not happening. The point of keeping him is that he's Drew Doughty, has 2 Cups as a King(even though the actual men on those teams had to keep him in check), and they want to win another one with him. Doesn't matter how dumb the plan is, that's what they want. All they've done since drafting Clarke is reinforce that idea.
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They aren't winning another with the King's Cap situation & Doughty's contract. Blake & Luc may not live in that reality.

The idea of moving Doughty came from looking at the cap & figuring out how to bring in a 5-8 AAV center & bring back Gavrikov.

Getting Fiala a center that can finish better than Lizotte is the biggest upgrade the team could make. E. Lindholm, who's potted 40 before would be nice. Fiala, Lindholm, Vilardi "3rd line". I'm sure the Flames don't want to trade him in division.

The next step in the logic, if you don't make the moves to turn the roster into a contender, what's the point of riding Doughty's contract out other than marketing?

Blake is probably looking at bringing Gavrikov back, dump some extra cap & trade for a rental C at the deadline & blow more assets.
 
FSL KINGS said:
They aren't winning another with the King's Cap situation & Doughty's contract. Blake & Luc may not live in that reality.
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That doesn't matter. Or it shows no signs of mattering up to right now. They want to win another one with him.

FSL KINGS said:
The idea of moving Doughty came from looking at the cap & figuring out how to bring in a 5-8 AAV center & bring back Gavrikov.
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Which is fine, from a I just want to try and make a new team pov, but you can't legitimately think they're getting rid of Doughty for any reason. There's nothing anywhere suggesting that's a road they're going down.

FSL KINGS said:
The next step in the logic, if you don't make the moves to turn the roster into a contender, what's the point of riding Doughty's contract out other than marketing?
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Again, nothing anywhere says it's even a thought. If all they want is to market having Doughty, and get a couple checks for x number of home playoff games, that's just how it is. If Blake can't make a contender with a 2023 $11m Doughty on the roster, that's a Blake issue. Or maybe it's a Kings issue, and no GM could do so, but there's just nothing from either side that says Doughty won't be a King.

FSL KINGS said:
Blake is probably looking at bringing Gavrikov back, dump some extra cap & trade for a rental C at the deadline & blow more assets.
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That's very possible.
 
Byfield, Kopitar, Kempe
Iafallo, Danault, Moore
Fiala, Lizotte, Vilardi
Grundström, Kupari, Kaliyev

Mikey, Doughty
Gavrikov (5.5), Roy
Durzi, Clarke
Björnfot

Pheonix, Cal

This has 1M in space with an 83.5 cap. Walker, Arvidsson gone. Spence banished.

Goal, 3C not playoff caliber. Forward group is ok, not great. D is better assuming Gavrikov & Roy both come back.

Make playoffs, get run over in the first. This is the path of least effort.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
That doesn't matter. Or it shows no signs of mattering up to right now. They want to win another one with him.



Which is fine, from a I just want to try and make a new team pov, but you can't legitimately think they're getting rid of Doughty for any reason. There's nothing anywhere suggesting that's a road they're going down.



Again, nothing anywhere says it's even a thought. If all they want is to market having Doughty, and get a couple checks for x number of home playoff games, that's just how it is. If Blake can't make a contender with a 2023 $11m Doughty on the roster, that's a Blake issue. Or maybe it's a Kings issue, and no GM could do so, but there's just nothing from either side that says Doughty won't be a King.



That's very possible.
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Just looking at what it would take to turn this into a contender, not what is likely for Blake to do.

Doughty's contract is an issue because with Byfield & Vilardi not being playoff ready centers & Kopi aging, they really need a 1 or 2 C. With the D needing to be improved & the Goalie situation as well, there just isn't enough cap.
 
Kings need:
2x LHD
Center
Goalie

But you have to be realistic about how they will fulfill these needs.

Center likely gets filled internally with Byfield.

Goalie and one LHD will liked be acquired externally.

Stop putting Cal Petersen in your starting lineup.
 
johnjm22 said:
Kings need:
2x LHD
Center
Goalie

But you have to be realistic about how they will fulfill these needs.

Center likely gets filled internally with Byfield.

Goalie and one LHD will liked be acquired externally.

Stop putting Cal Petersen in your starting lineup.
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50:50 Cal gets 3-5 games at the beginning of the year unless there's enough cap for Korpisalo & they can't risk losing Pheonix on waivers.
 
johnjm22 said:
Kings need:
2x LHD
Center
Goalie

But you have to be realistic about how they will fulfill these needs.

Center likely gets filled internally with Byfield.

Goalie and one LHD will liked be acquired externally.

Stop putting Cal Petersen in your starting lineup.
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Didn't Blake say they expect Cal to regain his "NHL capable goalie abilities" this season? I think that's why many people are putting him in their lineup.
 
YAYSAY said:
Didn't Blake say they expect Cal to regain his "NHL capable goalie abilities" this season? I think that's why many people are putting him in their lineup.
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Yeah. He's not going to throw him under the bus publicly.

I think Petersen, if he's still here, will be given a chance in camp, will likely fail, and start the season in Ontario.

We'll know whether or not Blake was serious about that quote based on whether or not he acquires a goalie this summer. I think he will.
 
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