LeBrun: Kings want 1st-round pick, prospect for Muzzin

[YP44]

Doubt they keep him in the division given he has term.

I hate that this is even a thing (but I know it is). I want LA to deal their players to the highest bidder. Could care less if that includes Division

 

[Kurrilino]

Leafs should be all over it.

Not according to your fellow Leafs fans.

Reading the thread we are talking about a 3rd line defender who plays on the wrong side doesn't matter which side you use him.

I guess the Leafs wouldn't even be interested in him

 

[RalphKing]

Would you think if LA took back Stone that Calgary would add Dube?

I don't think Stone is a dump really. He has value, he's just been out with a blood clot for a few months. I don't believe Calgary wants to get rid of Dube right now.

 

[TorontoTrades]

I hate that this is even a thing (but I know it is). I want LA to deal their players to the highest bidder. Could care less if that includes Division

I agree, I think it made a little more sense when there were 6 divisions but now you're exiling 1/4th of the league in trades. GMs just fear a player haunting them every time they play each other. Essentially they're going to pick dealing out of the division over inside the division if the offers are similar.

 

[member 88115]

Yeah, but McDonagh wasn't a UFA either. And he was in a tier above.

I think the Kings might be best served holding him. The one card they really have is the Leafs may or may not be desperate for a D. If they're not... I'm not sure other teams will pony up a big package.

McDonagh was a steal and not sure why that trade made. Blake should get fire immediately if a trade like that went down. Of all the players available, Muzzin the most asked about on our message boards (not that it means anything). If Muzzin was struggling, I would be worried trading low like we did with Pearson.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Not according to your fellow Leafs fans.

Reading the thread we are talking about a 3rd line defender who plays on the wrong side doesn't matter which side you use him.

I guess the Leafs wouldn't even be interested in him

1st and a forward prospect (not Kap or Andreas) makes sense when you consider he can help now and replace Gardiner who walks this year. Muzzin is reasonably played and could be resigned after his deal expires given the Leafs really only have a tough one year for cap before Marleau's 6.25 comes off.

Don't pay too much mind to the bad posters. They don't represent the logical fans.

 

[The Podium]

Debrusk has over 100 NHL games, how at all is he comparable to Lilijgren

Comparable to Kapanen whose name has been floated around in this thread

 

[BlueBaron]

I don't think a lot of Leaf fans are being realistic as to the trade value of Pietro. This is one of the best RHD in the league and he has 10 NHL seasons of elite play to back up the claim. With 1 more year on the contract I don't think a late 1st, Lil/Kap and another piece are going to get it done from St. Louis. I think his value is every bit as high as Karlsson, but Karlsson's value took a hit because he was unwilling to negotiate a new deal at the time of the trade so he was a pure rental and the environment in Ottawa around Karlsson was so toxic, he had to move.

Karlsson received Tierny (young 3rd line C coming off 40pt), Demelo (young bottom pairing D), Norris (1st round C prospect), Balcer (top 9 winger prospect), 1st and 2nd round picks.

So a Pietroangelo needing a bigger return due to circumstance and contract length probably requires Kapanen, Lil/Sandin, Grundstrom, Rosen/Borgman, 1st and 2nd and I don't know if that is enough.

That is probably fair but I think we'd pay additional assets to avoid giving one of our 2 top d prospects.

 

[kabidjan18]

So Tampa returns McDonagh a legit #1 D without giving up Foot but the Leafs can't get a #2/3 D without giving up the guy drafted a few spots after him?

Why do people keep bringing this up?

They gave a first rounder prospect, an almost first round prospect, a 40 point NHL player who was playing top 6 for Tampa at the time, a first round pick and a conditional first round pick (now a second round pick).

Oh, but yes, they kept Foote. Great job.

That's way worse than a late 1st and a prospect. The key information being omitted is that they got another player in that trade, JT Miller, which is why the trade was seen as unbalanced. All that for just McDonagh and the conversation is entirely different. So the comparison is not comparing two comparable things.

 

[go4hockey]

That’s the standard ask ... does he play RD?

He has only played the Left side his whole career.

 

[PromoterDave]

I would offer up something like Borgman + 1st if I were the Leafs. And then trade Connor Brown for a 2nd, and trade Zaitsev to recoup some draft picks

 

[north49er]

Report: Kings want 1st-round pick, prospect for Muzzin

Out of curiosity, would they be after a top 10 pick or just anywhere in the 1st round?

 

[Liferleafer]

wait you mean Torontos late first and a middling prospect isnt enough? I thought Muzzin wore Leafs pajamas as a kid

Well...he is originally from Woodstock Ontario...so maybe he did have some Leafs PJs....

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Out of curiosity, would they be after a top 10 pick or just anywhere in the 1st round?

the higher the pick the lower the level of prospect imo

 

[Deuce Awesome]

So a Pietroangelo needing a bigger return due to circumstance and contract length probably requires Kapanen, Lil/Sandin, Grundstrom, Rosen/Borgman, 1st and 2nd and I don't know if that is enough.

Well its enough for Dubas to hang up the phone and laugh until his glasses steam up.

 

[deaderhead28]

Way too much. Leafs would offer a lesser prospect.

Then pass,gotta pay to get top 4 defensmen.

 

[kilowatt]

Muzzin has been the Kings’ best and most consistent defenseman all season. He’s a big body with a big shot, hits hard, makes a good first pass, and plays in all situations. He’s a high-end number two defender on a contender. He’s top-40 in defenseman scoring. Oh - and he only makes $4 million for another year. A lot of teams will be calling on him.

 

[Boondock]

Well its enough for Dubas to hang up the phone and laugh until his glasses steam up.

I don't think the Blues would care. Moving elite players usually means quantity over quality but the quality needs to be there if you want an elite player like Pietro.

 

[deaderhead28]

1st and a forward prospect (not Kap or Andreas) makes sense when you consider he can help now and replace Gardiner who walks this year. Muzzin is reasonably played and could be resigned after his deal expires given the Leafs really only have a tough one year for cap before Marleau's 6.25 comes off.

Don't pay too much mind to the bad posters. They don't represent the logical fans.

Makes absolutely no sense unless it's a top prospect.LeBrun even said Kings arent selling cheap nor does he know for sure if Kings are going to trade Muzzin before the Feb 25th deadline.

 

[Deuce Awesome]

Muzz to Leafs for 2019 1st+ Grundstrom+3rd 2020

Im good with that. Im not as wound up about picks past the second round as some.

 

[GBLeaf]

Muzzin has 1yr after this one.

Unless he signs with a guaranteed deal sorted, I wouldn't give up a 1st and decent prospect.

Asset management is key for Toronto.

 

[deaderhead28]

Muzzin has 1yr after this one.

Unless he signs with a guaranteed deal sorted, I wouldn't give up a 1st and decent prospect.

Asset management is key for Toronto.

Then move along.Maybe you guys can get Luke Schenn back

 

[Deuce Awesome]

I don't think the Blues would care. Moving elite players usually means quantity over quality but the quality needs to be there if you want an elite player like Pietro.

Pietro is a great defenseman Im not saying otherwise, but your request was the equivalent of three first round picks, a second, and two b prospects. Find me a player who has been traded for that amount of loot in the salary cap era.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Out of curiosity, would they be after a top 10 pick or just anywhere in the 1st round?

If I had to guess, I would say they are open to any first round pick. However, if say Tampa (I know they can't trade their pick, as it has conditions to go to NYR) wanted Muzzin the second piece is going to be more substantial than EDM, COL, MTL, PIT or BUF starting with their own picks.

 

[GBLeaf]

Then move along.Maybe you guys can get Luke Schenn back

Oooh a little bit of passive aggressive posting.

It's okay buddy. You'll be fine.