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We get these threads every year and very few teams get what they actual first want
LeBrun: Kings want 1st-round pick, prospect for Muzzin
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If I'm Blake, and Toronto calls about Muzzin, I want their 1st, and Kapanen back...nothing else fits, we know TOR isn't gonna give up Lindegren or Sandin, not with their problems on the back end....they are gonna have to resign Kapanen, and that's gonna cost money, Somewhere between Kadri and Hyman money, plus they have to resign Dermot the year after......they won't have enough money to go around for everyone.
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Juulsen would be in the Top-6 if I was in charge of that team, so the offer would obviously be :
Fleury + 2nd + Ikonen
That is a FAR CRY from Poehling + 1st.
Habs Halifax
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They can ask. That is their right. All we can say is we are not interested in trading either our 1st or Poehling and we can offer other things. We offered what we offered if they don't like it, that is their choice.
I'd just like to see other teams trump our package. Some Leafs fans appear to be ok with Liljegren and the 1st. It trumps the Juulsen or Fleury, a 2nd, and a grade B piece no doubt. The 1st would be attractive to the Kings and is the difference maker. It's close though.
Liljegren vs Juulsen: Very close IMO. It's hard to evaluate Liljegren due to his recent injury in his draft plus 2 years of development. Many will throw Juulsen's value under the bus cause they don't know his shutdown ability and physical game. To be honest, I say Juulsen has better value than Fleury but it's early with Fleury. He's only in his 1st pro season.
1st > 2nd: No explanation required
??? vs Ikonen: Ikonen is going through tough times with an injury like Liljegren is going through. It's very tough to know how good or bad he is. He could end up being a middle 6 forward or a bust. That's how grade B prospects work.
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zeke
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1) kappy is more valuable than muzzin
2) while an upgrade is always nice, the leafs don't have "problems on the back end".
3) it would actually make more sense to trade young D for a D upgrade than young F, anyways.
Kappy is more valuable than Muzzin....you might be the only person who thinks that,
And the Leafs definitely have a problem on the back end....
Thanks for the humour though
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Liferleafer
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LOL I dunno man, the kid also thinks Kapanen is more valuable than Muzzin..... I think his view is a bit...skewed.
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22.TBL 32.2
23.TOR 32.5
24.PIT 32.6
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what what?
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Based on McDonaugh and Shattenkirk returns. The Kings should easily get someone to bite on a 1st and a good prospect for a player like Muzzin who is signed to a reasonably cheap contract until the end of the 2019-20 season.
Possibly, but how? They still have to field a team...they'd have to find a way to dump Marleau.....dump Kadri....that's two major pieces to fill etc.
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WilliamNylander
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You could probably pry Granlund and a fourth out of Vancouver. You get rid of an aging dman enabling a refresh on your blue line and add a young emerging 19 goal scoring Centre. Not sure Van would give you the fourth...maybe if you added a fifth?
Frolov 6'3
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i would not be interested to be honest. Late first and a player who is playing for an offensive juggernaut team.
With a bit of bad luck, Kings end up with nothing.
I would be looking for a deal with another team if I was Blake.
WilliamNylander
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Kapanen is easily more valuable than Muzzin. Look at the contracts.
Muzzin is more likely to get an NHL-ready prospect playing in the AHL (Jeremy Bracco, Mason Marchment type).
Look at the cup rings....it has about the same meaning that contracts do.
I would, Kapanen would be REALLY good with Kempe, even Leipsic.....yes Kapanen plays with an offensive juggernaut, but he was at one point, killing a lot of penalties as well...and Babcock wouldn't do that unless he trusted him defensively.
WilliamNylander
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You would learn a lot by visiting capfriendly. Its a website that shows contract statuses and other useful info.
You're right, WHATEVER was I thinking..you have 23 million projected in cap space......and have to sign 11 players
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Lol...advanced stats. tell me, what do the stats say about last night....Tampa pulls their goalie with about 3 minutes to go...we do not get out of our own zone for over 2 minutes with Tampa forwards looking like the Harlem Globetrotters of hockey and Andersen going full Godly Beast mode. It was a bloody shooting gallery.
The computer screen might say they are fine....the TV screen says something completely different.
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