GDT: Kings off-season thread

[ibleedkings]

I want no part of Nylander. I don't care how skilled he is if this is how you go to battle when the games mean the most I don't want you anywhere near this team.

Durzi just had one of those moments. Are you ok with him on the team?

 

[Docgonzo]

Just a thought I had, would ya'll consider something around Iafallo and Walker for Tavares? Obviously Tavares' contract isn't great, but this team needs scoring and JT is still a PPG player. If they strike out on Forsberg, and the costs of players like Fiala or Boeser is too high I wouldn't hate adding Tavares.

For Toronto I think Iafallo would be the type of player that would work well and rebound on a line with Nylander, and adding a RD like Walker at a reasonable cap hit is helpful.

If the Leafs want cap relief they can trade the Kings Marner or Nylander. No thanks to the idea of getting older and the monster contract. At least if they’re younger the big contract is easier to swallow.

 

[Little Psycho]

Yikes not a herniated disc. I had my surgery last year for L4-L5, L5-S1. I had a 13mm for my S1 which my doctor was stunned about considering I was 30 and had no trauma.

 

[Fishhead]

Durzi is not a Voynov type.

Voynov was very good skater and was excellent at his own zone.

Durzi is so slow footed that he simply does not have physical abilities to be good at his own zone.

Yeah for sure, Voynov was quick and was a tank. Ridiculously high IQ on the ice too. Anyone remember that play where time was winding down (it might even have been a playoff game) and he single handedly took the puck into the O zone and kept it there? There were like 3 or 4 guys on him and it took them a good 15 seconds to get the puck from him. Or the shot block on Nash, neutralizing guys, knowing when to go back door, etc.

Durzi reminds me more of Corvo. Solid guy, won't back down, great offensive skills. Not a bad thing, but I just don't see him VV's level. If he sticks around and develops into that I'd be ecstatic.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

What about that quote you responded to sounded bad? Im just curious.

I can't speak for the OP, but if I had to guess, I'd say the part about you basiing all of the Kings success on luck would kinda sum up the ignorance of your post.

Your schtick is old, dude...you need a new act. I know you have a few groupies on here that got their noses shoved up your butt, but I can't imagine that the majority of people who post on here find you to be even remotely intelligent or interesting with the crap you spew.

 

[Sol]

Uh oh, OP must have hit a nerve....

Lol no I’d just like for people like you and him to actually justify your position if you’re going to complain about others having different opinions.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Kings media fricken sucks not streaming these. They have always been so behind compared to other teams

OMGG yessss thank you Drewwww. 100% need size and toughness added.

Zadorov, Chiarot, Cole, Gudbranson, and Manson should be UFA's we'd be looking at.

 

[Sol]

I can't speak for the OP, but if I had to guess, I'd say the part about you basiing all of the Kings success on luck would kinda sum up the ignorance of your post.

Your schtick is old, dude...you need a new act. I know you have a few groupies on here that got their noses shoved up your butt, but I can't imagine that the majority of people who post on here find you to be even remotely intelligent or interesting with the crap you spew.

Which part of what I said was wrong and why was it wrong? I know it’s hard for you to qualify your opinions but I insist, if almost everyone is wrong , then what makes you right ? Can you lay it out for me?

Respond to the post and break it down for me.

I genuinely don’t know how you can look at this team with the failures in forward star power and think this was a good year. I’d be happier if the Kings missed the playoffs and the prospects looked good in forward.

The only legitimate observation is that this year was an anomaly. Kopitar will continue to get worse and it looks very likely that prospects won’t get that much better to offset anything.

Unless for some reason you saw star potential in the forwards for some bizarre reason that many others aren’t.

Decent amount of you guys are looking at this season without any context. They made it to the playoffs but no one is thinking about what made them get there.

Similarly the same people who saw game 1 Kopitar getting a ton of ice time and getting a W thinking that the context of the win was working Kopitar to death. And then he looked shit most of the series.

Look at the context, not the result. Anomalies are anomalies but context will provide a better understanding of the future outcomes.

And also, I don’t see Kempe being as good next season as he was this season.he had an anomalous year. Kopitar is only going to get worse. What are we looking at exactly? Be realistic.

Did anyone in their right minds think that William Karlsson randomly broke out into a prolific goal scorer in one season? No. There was nothing to suggest that he would retain that new found glory. His career suggested that he’d come down to earth and boy he did.


Kings were lucky this season. The only way the Kings do better next season is if Blake fires the entire staff and gets Trotz. Better special teams will win more games, and better development team for the prospects will be huge however there’s nothing to indicate that anyone will be losing their job.

 

[JTeller97]

Durzi just had one of those moments. Are you ok with him on the team?

I would need to see the example of that happening. From what I've seen from Sean is that he might have the most heart on the whole team outside of Lizotte. Constantly sticking up for teammates or throwing his body around despite the fact he's on the smaller side. He's often commended on these boards for carrying around some ostrich eggs.

 

[HookKing]

You guys may not be aware that (no backchecking) Scheifele's reputation in Winnipeg is total crap. Still, he has two years left on his deal and an obvious incentive to produce. With Denault and Kopitar still around lack of D from him could be worth some risk. It also gives Byfield time to mature or at least see what we really have with him. Oh, and the Jets need RHD and picks/prospects.

 

[johnjm22]

 

[kinghock]

Yeah for sure, Voynov was quick and was a tank. Ridiculously high IQ on the ice too. Anyone remember that play where time was winding down (it might even have been a playoff game) and he single handedly took the puck into the O zone and kept it there? There were like 3 or 4 guys on him and it took them a good 15 seconds to get the puck from him. Or the shot block on Nash, neutralizing guys, knowing when to go back door, etc.

Durzi reminds me more of Corvo. Solid guy, won't back down, great offensive skills. Not a bad thing, but I just don't see him VV's level. If he sticks around and develops into that I'd be ecstatic.

I believe that with Voynov on the team Kings would win one more title after 2014.
He was that good.

 

[kingsholygrail]

I believe that with Voynov on the team Kings would win one more title after 2014.
He was that good.

It certainly derailed the team when he was gone. If he doesn't beat his wife, they don't trade for a D-man at the deadline.

 

[Docgonzo]

With Turcotte on his second concussion and Vilardi not looking hot this season, Blake is going to have to trade multiple D prospects since our high end forward prospects aren’t worth much anymore.

 

[ibleedkings]

I would need to see the example of that happening. From what I've seen from Sean is that he might have the most heart on the whole team outside of Lizotte. Constantly sticking up for teammates or throwing his body around despite the fact he's on the smaller side. He's often commended on these boards for carrying around some ostrich eggs.

I guess you just missed the penalty he took against McDavid and completely gave up, threw his hands in the air and McDavid scores???? Point is young players have stupid moments and doesn’t mean you shouldn’t want someone as talented as Nylander near this team because of issues that can be worked out.

 

[kingskring]

 

[Sol]

Sounds like Tmac is staying. That’s a shame.

I’m really worried they’re going to give Kempe an insane contract for one really good season

 

[Sol]

 

[Schrute farms]

Yeah just pull those blinders real close to your eyes and keep moving forward through that tunnel. None of what I said was wrong. Hopefully it's just the Kings making you this delusional and not your overall life in general.

What about that quote you responded to sounded bad? Im just curious. I pretty much laid down in detail what the problems are with this team and why I think it's a big deal. Do you want to try responding or should we just do the random dumb comments?

I gave my opinion in the post that you originally responded to. Not sure why you would ask me to repeat myself. Go back and re-read it if you really want to...shrug.
I'm genuinely very excited about this team, what comes next and the future.
Sports & my Kings fandom is entertainment. Maybe you feel differently idk -- i obviously don't know you personally enough to say (nor do i care...to each is own imo).

 

[JTeller97]

I guess you just missed the penalty he took against McDavid and completely gave up, threw his hands in the air and McDavid scores???? Point is young players have stupid moments and doesn’t mean you shouldn’t want someone as talented as Nylander near this team because of issues that can be worked out.

I guess I don't see the correlation between the 2 plays seems like apples and oranges to me. With Nylander it's just a complete lack of compete and engagement whereas with Durzi he took a penalty while battling Mcdavid and had more of a mental gaffe by not continuing to play and instead deciding to bark at the ref. We can agree to disagree. I don't think a lack of commitment or heart is something you can work out it's either something you have or don't.

 

[Sol]

I gave my opinion in the post that you originally responded to. Not sure why you would ask me to repeat myself. Go back and re-read it if you really want to...shrug.
I'm genuinely very excited about this team, what comes next and the future.
Sports & my Kings fandom is entertainment. Maybe you feel differently idk -- i obviously don't know you personally enough to say (nor do i care...to each is own imo).

you cared enough to attack today but not go into the details of what I said. Ok cool.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Sounds like they're aware of what they need to add this summer. Let's hope they go out and do it. Love Manson's game but another righty, Kings have too many of those already.

 

[Sol]

Sounds like they're aware of what they need to add this summer. Let's hope they go out and do it. Love Manson's game but another righty, Kings have too many of those already.

three dislocated shoulders too. Thats nuts. Brought to you by Zack Kassian. Crazy how effective he was at killing our players.

Lemieux was a non factor.

Kings not only need toughness, but they need a big guy. Zadorov COME ON DOWN.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

three dislocated shoulders too. Thats nuts. Brought to you by Zack Kassian. Crazy how effective he was at killing our players.

Lemieux was a non factor.

Kings not only need toughness, but they need a big guy. Zadorov COME ON DOWN.

Not just Kassian but McDavid threw 2-3 big hits in game 7. Not saying McDavid hurt anyone but he was able to throw those hits cause he knew no one on the Kings, except maybe Brown, would hit him back

 

[Sol]

Not just Kassian but McDavid threw 2-3 big hits in game 7. Not saying McDavid just anyone but he was able to throw those hits cause he knew no one on the Kings, except maybe Brown, would hit him back

I know. That’s insane. It was just crazy how effective they were. I know I’ve said this before but it’s crazy how soft the team is with Kopitar as Captain. People act like it means nothing but I truly think whoever dawns the C the players will try to emulate for better or worse. Especially young players.