Kings did not trade for Chychrun!

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At this point I am resigned to the definite possibility that Chychrun may actually be LA bound, of course someone else may outbid us in the twilight while they work out the dollars. There's no doubt that he would upgrade the back line and while I am skittish of his stats and injury history if our brass is confident enough to truly make the deal because it is the right move and not something out of desperation then so be it as long as it doesn't include Byfield or Clarke. I'll be at the game tonight, was low key hoping it would be done early today if they shoe was gonna drop so I'd get a chance to see him in a Kings sweater if it is meant to be.
 
At this point I am resigned to the definite possibility that Chychrun may actually be LA bound, of course someone else may outbid us in the twilight while they work out the dollars. There's no doubt that he would upgrade the back line and while I am skittish of his stats and injury history if our brass is confident enough to truly make the deal because it is the right move and not something out of desperation then so be it as long as it doesn't include Byfield or Clarke. I'll be at the game tonight, was low key hoping it would be done early today if they shoe was gonna drop so I'd get a chance to see him in a Kings sweater if it is meant to be.
What do other teams have to give up?
Bos: Lysell
TO: Knies
EDM: Broberg
Buffalo, they have some good prospects, but who are they willing to move?

I'm not sure those guys are available for trade. Maybe Bos is desperate enough to go all in, but they are going to need all the centers they can get when theirs retire soon.

If those guys aren't available, who's the best player Chychrun is bringing back?
 
What do other teams have to give up?
Bos: Lysell
TO: Knies
EDM: Broberg
Buffalo, they have some good prospects, but who are they willing to move?

I'm not sure those guys are available for trade. Maybe Bos is desperate enough to go all in, but they are going to need all the centers they can get when theirs retire soon.

If those guys aren't available, who's the best player Chychrun is bringing back?

I really see it as those teams are far more window-open than the Kings, more 'desperate', and will give up their top 3 assets to make it happen

Kings are not in their shoes yet AND Kings' top 3 assets are better

It makes sense that AZ is trying to leverage, but Blake needs to not bite
 
I really see it as those teams are far more window-open than the Kings, more 'desperate', and will give up their top 3 assets to make it happen

Kings are not in their shoes yet AND Kings' top 3 assets are better

It makes sense that AZ is trying to leverage, but Blake needs to not bite
Complicating it for LA is Paterson regressing so now he’s a $5 mill buried goalie for 2 more years and thus no one taking over for an aging Quick. Plus their high picks in Turcotte and Byfield up front haven’t delivered or more so shown well enough yet in the nhl in their draft plus 3 and 4 season’s respectively.

On the flip side, JC is signed for 2 additional seasons and will try on 27 as a ufa. And once someone is with LA highly doubtful LA would lose him to free agency. Will just cost them cap room.
 
I really see it as those teams are far more window-open than the Kings, more 'desperate', and will give up their top 3 assets to make it happen

Kings are not in their shoes yet AND Kings' top 3 assets are better

It makes sense that AZ is trying to leverage, but Blake needs to not bite
Yes - I agree that the Kings assets are better and that we should not make a desperation move. The big question you gotta ask yourself when you make any trade: is this guy a game changer? Is he going to influence the outcome of the important games and improve the team culture/identity? I think it's pretty clear we need a LHD and a goalie.

Even if we get Chychrun/Vejmelka, I would not include Clarke or Byfield in any trade. Anyone other picks/prospects are fair game.
 
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What do other teams have to give up?
Bos: Lysell
TO: Knies
EDM: Broberg
Buffalo, they have some good prospects, but who are they willing to move?

I'm not sure those guys are available for trade. Maybe Bos is desperate enough to go all in, but they are going to need all the centers they can get when theirs retire soon.

If those guys aren't available, who's the best player Chychrun is bringing back?

I agree that LA should be in the lead for almost any player they want, but it doesn't matter from our perspective is as fans when those teams are definitely more desperate than we are and who knows what the Arizona brass thinks of various players.

I've seen so many trades where you are like, really? And the GM walks out and said they really liked some random middle 6 grinder. Best not to get our hopes up in the Erat for Forsberg era until the trade call is finalized.
 
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I know the names have been out there, So after all this speculating ….who have we narrowed it down to that’s most likely in the proposed trade for Chychrun?

Long time kings fans, what’s your gut feeling here?

Do we agree the hiccup is takin Cals contract?
 
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I really hope we don't. I'd rather spend our asset capital on a good young goalie like Demko or Vejmelka. We really need that more than another D. Having a good D on the left side would be nice - but we have a lot of D - with more on the way.
 
I know the names have been out there, So after all this speculating ….who have we narrowed it down to that’s most likely in the proposed trade for Chychrun?

Long time kings fans, what’s your gut feeling here?

Do we agree the hiccup is takin Cals contract?
probably two of or all three Pinelli, Turcotte & the 2023 1st round pick. Then maybe others -- Grans makes sense for AZ. Crom and Laf are potentials too.
 
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I know the names have been out there, So after all this speculating ….who have we narrowed it down to that’s most likely in the proposed trade for Chychrun?

Long time kings fans, what’s your gut feeling here?

Do we agree the hiccup is takin Cals contract?
I wanna say Walker, protected '23 1st, Turcotte, and maybe one other piece, let's say Grans. That's as high as I go. As much as the Kings might like to get rid of Cal's contract, it makes everything way more complicated. Coyotes were looking for multiple high picks or equivalents, and I think this would satisfy that request. That's probably as good a package as any other team can assemble for him.

I think Chychrun is a good player, but I wouldn't move Byfield, Vilardi, Kaliyev, or Clarke in a package for him. The '23 1st seems like a requirement. Walker has to go the other way for salary and space constraints. Makes sense from the Kings side, but who knows what Armstrong is looking at from other teams.

I'm not actually all that excited about getting Chychrun myself, so maybe someone else who's more desperate will put together a better package.
 
I wanna say Walker, protected '23 1st, Turcotte, and maybe one other piece, let's say Grans. That's as high as I go. As much as the Kings might like to get rid of Cal's contract, it makes everything way more complicated. Coyotes were looking for multiple high picks or equivalents, and I think this would satisfy that request. That's probably as good a package as any other team can assemble for him.

I think Chychrun is a good player, but I wouldn't move Byfield, Vilardi, Kaliyev, or Clarke in a package for him. The '23 1st seems like a requirement. Walker has to go the other way for salary and space constraints. Makes sense from the Kings side, but who knows what Armstrong is looking at from other teams.

I'm not actually all that excited about getting Chychrun myself, so maybe someone else who's more desperate will put together a better package.
agree 100% -- that's the best offer i'd do. If they prefer Durzi over Turc then that's fine (can switch a forward like Fagemo for Grans i guess too).
 


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The tweet is dishonest. He also mentioned that ‘the snag’ he talked about was nothing more than his own speculation. Based on nothing, he really emphasised that point. He also mentioned Byfield and Clarke were not in play from what he knows from various sources. (I listened to the podcast). It’s click bait.
 
It cost the rangers a second and conditional third which can become a second if it gets push a year to unload 2 years and $2.5 mill of Nemeth. So if LA is trying to include Paterson in this deal it’s going to cost like a first rounder just for that. Or a minimum of 2 seconds as he’s due $11 mill over the next 2 seasons so it’s real money not just cap hit.
 
Whatever happens, it’s hard to claim the Kings have zero interest in Chycrun at this point. Based on what has transpired over the past couple of days, feels like the Cryotes camp is trying to pump up the market.

It’s out of character for Blake to be willing to give up a major piece. And the team is competitive, but not a realistic cup contender. My speculative take is Luc wants to make a big splash and is willing to ship Clarke for Chycrun. Blake says OK, but only if the Phoenix goalie comes back for Cal. And he counts on Luc being unaware that Cal refuses to play in Arizona.

Blake looks like he’s playing 4D chess, but unfortunately, it’s probably versus his boss and is really 3D checkers.
 
Whatever happens, it’s hard to claim the Kings have zero interest in Chycrun at this point. Based on what has transpired over the past couple of days, feels like the Cryotes camp is trying to pump up the market.

It’s out of character for Blake to be willing to give up a major piece. And the team is competitive, but not a realistic cup contender. My speculative take is Luc wants to make a big splash and is willing to ship Clarke for Chycrun. Blake says OK, but only if the Phoenix goalie comes back for Cal. And he counts on Luc being unaware that Cal refuses to play in Arizona.

Blake looks like he’s playing 4D chess, but unfortunately, it’s probably versus his boss and is really 3D checkers.
indeed either Luc or Beckerman

I hope whatever move it is, it is a move for the future and not the past where we acquired a Jeff Halpern way past his prime Freddy Modin
 

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