Player Discussion Kiefer Sherwood

[Another Empty Netter]

The fact that went uncalled still pisses me off, that was a predatory illegal hit, if Sherwood milks it and stays down and goes to the locker room, it's potentially a 5 minute call, instead we got nothing.

The NHL is headed down a dangerous path by factoring in the result of the hits so heavily. I think you'll see embellishment continue to rise because of it.

It doesn’t factor in the severity of hits whatsoever. Guys miss weeks when the cheap shot artist gets 5 and a game - if

 

[VanJack]

If Sherwood hadn't been such a burr under the saddle of the Canucks in last year's first round series with the Preds, I wonder if Allvin would have signed him.

But at $1.5m for this season and next, his contract is shaping up as the 'bargain of the year' in the NHL.

 

[oba]

hokkei three goru-
Ichiban performance, HAI. !
wake up gaijin team.

 

[IComeInPeace]

Kole is the younger brother. Kieffer is a '95, Kole a '97.

I think I’m the only Indian on the planet that isn’t good at math.

 

[AzNightmare]

If Sherwood hadn't been such a burr under the saddle of the Canucks in last year's first round series with the Preds, I wonder if Allvin would have signed him.

But at $1.5m for this season and next, his contract is shaping up as the 'bargain of the year' in the NHL.

As much of a steal Kiefer Sherwood has been, Lankinen still has the better "bargain of the year". lol

 

[LemonSauceD]

YES WE DO!

He’s literally on pace for 500+ hits which would set an NHL record (2005) and I sure as hell know enforces of the past couldn’t skate as quick as him to make 10+ hits a game especially when they’re in the box for 10 minutes a game.

But aside from that, there literally hasn’t been a muckier guy in the line up who has given me such joy since I saw Burrows come up. Currently on pace for 30 goals.

Hey @Vector, you know what to do. Post the side by side numbers of a certain Nashville player and Sherwood!

 

[End on a Hinote]

I Sherwood like him

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Kiefer Sherwood pops out as a potential bottom six forward pickup. I liked his game in the Nashville series and he’s extremely physical.

On the more offensive side, I wonder if a guy like Danton Heinen might not be a good add. Bit of a tweener, but he can bury some pucks, has played on some good teams, and is a local boy.

Defense is hard to predict. I know Dhaliwal has telegraphed Dillon pretty hard.

I get the feeling Zadorov is gone to chase a big payday.

I mentioned earlier, I would look at Kiefer Sherwood for a bottom six role - very physical player who stood out in a positive way for me in the Nashville series.

I still maintain that if we are looking for a sandpaper/physicality type guy with some upside in the bottom six, that Kiefer Sherwood from Nashville is one to look at.

Duhaime crashes and bangs, but provides limited in other areas and at $2M, might not be very good value.

Probably my best set of posts on this site. Only took a couple of decades.

Glad he's ours and that he's doing so well here. Hope he keeps it up!

 

[Pure West]

If Sherwood hadn't been such a burr under the saddle of the Canucks in last year's first round series with the Preds, I wonder if Allvin would have signed him..

No doubt that it brought him on the radar. At 1.5 million, it doesn't seem like too many others were paying attention. You'd have to figure Nashville could have re-signed him at that price, but perhaps the Canucks were one of the only teams that went to him and told him they believed he had more to offer then just be a 4th line wrecking ball.

As a fan, you gotta love these guys that toil away in the minors or in small roles and earn every opportunity they get before finally finding success. Particularly when we have all seen our fair share of the opposite situation, like high picks who have everything handed to them and squander it.

 

[Raistlin]

I'm glad in a forest of woods yesterday, ours stand tallest and hit hardest.

 

[ghostingtaro]

def a late bloomer in his hockey career

anyone know why he went undrafted

 

[Josepho]

def a late bloomer in his hockey career

anyone know why he went undrafted

He was eligible from 2013 to 2015. This type of production didn't really indicate a future NHLer.

 

[VanJack]

Player development can take some bizarre turns. Sometimes highly drafted guys just stall out.....while others like Burrows and Sherwood just keep on improving as they make their lonely journey through hockey's minor league outposts.

When Burrows showed up at his first NHL training camp as an invitee of the Canucks, he was an ECHL player at best. But you couldn't keep him out of the NHL by his mid-20's.

Sherwood was a far better offensive player in the AHL than Burrows was. And should have been on somebody's radar long before now. But was stamped as an AHL-NHL 'tweener after stops in the Ducks, Avalanche and Predators organizations.

But you can't measure the size of a guy's heart and his absolute will and determination to succeed.

 

[iceburg]

Sherwood came out of University and played 50 games in the NHL as a 23 year old. Somebody recognized something.
The next three years, through COVID, he split between the NHL and the AHL. He played only 26 games in 20/21 and managed greater than 1.5 pt/g in the AHL
The next year was his 75 point year in 57 games. I don't care who you are, that production is seriously good.

I'm wondering whether his long route to being an NHL regular had more to do with COVID than anything else. What ever the reason, I'm glad he's on our side.

 

[Breakers]

Nashville is such franking disaster

Trotz is a complete idiot

 

[pitseleh]

Sherwood came out of University and played 50 games in the NHL as a 23 year old. Somebody recognized something.
The next three years, through COVID, he split between the NHL and the AHL. He played only 26 games in 20/21 and managed greater than 1.5 ppg in the AHL
The next year was his 75 point year in 57 games. I don't care who you are, that production is seriously good.

I'm wondering whether his long route to being an NHL regular had more to do with COVID than anything else. What ever the reason, I'm glad he's on our side.

It’s wild that a guy who can skate and doesn’t shy away from contact with that type of AHL production didn’t get more of a shot.

 

[RobertKron]

How was Sherwood stamped an AHL-NHL tweener by the Preds when he was a ~0.5PPG player for them last year with zero games in the AHL?

Burrows was a ~1PPG player in the AHL at 24 and then never saw another game in the league after that.

 

[Bankerguy]

does anyone know what his home hits/game is vs his away hits/game?
i dont even know how to find that stat lol

 

[rypper]

does anyone know what his home hits/game is vs his away hits/game?
i dont even know how to find that stat lol

Hockey reference tracks hits but you pretty much have to go game by game.

 

[Regal]

does anyone know what his home hits/game is vs his away hits/game?
i dont even know how to find that stat lol

NHL.com lets you sort by home and road splits

Home

Away

So he has a slightly higher average while away than at home (6.5 vs 5.8)

The NHL did a big hits audit in February and I think they’re still keeping on top of it, so there probably shouldn’t be a lot of rink bias anymore.

 

[Bankerguy]

NHL.com lets you sort by home and road splits

Home

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Away


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So he has a slightly higher average while away than at home (6.5 vs 5.8)

The NHL did a big hits audit in February and I think they’re still keeping on top of it, so there probably shouldn’t be a lot of rink bias anymore.

wow! thx

 

[beachcomber]

His value has never been higher. Time to trade him and Hoggy now for a Dman. Lank as well.

 

[David71]

“There's also a momentum and energy too,” he added. “It's the game within the game: the emotions and the passion that is contagious within the team. I try to bring that night-in, night-out for us to have a little bit of an edge.”


His head coach agrees, seeing that as a major way Sherwood has contributed beyond the points he’s putting on the scoreboard.


“He sets the tone,” said Rick Tocchet. “He’s a first forecheck guy that likes to hit guys — that loosens teams up. They start throwing pucks away as the game goes on.”


Sherwood set that tone in the playoffs against the Canucks last year, making an impression on both the Canucks’ management and the Canucks’ captain.


“I talked to Quinn and he was more excited about Sherwood than anyone because he pissed the whole team off in the playoffs by playing hard,” said general manager Patrik Allvin after signing Sherwood in free agency on July 1.