alko
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Australia and New Zealand. Most logic options.
KHL Expansion Part VIII
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Australia and New Zealand. Most logic options.
hansomreiste
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NHL tEaMs aLSo TrAvEl a LoT, iT Is nOt a pRoBLeM
tobu
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Anyone believing anymore in any European conquest must be delusional, it's over.
vorky
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SoundAndFury
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Do you have full information though?
mkev400
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So Slovan folding because no investor was found despite it being the plan fits the bill of „going as planned“?
Also if the KHL is indeed thinking about a Salary Floor it is extremely poor timing/consideration given the fact that a team just left the league due to debts and lack of money. Putting in a salary floor as a means of creating a somewhat basic competitive environment will in all likelihood result in more teams overspending and ending up like Slovan...
vorky
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Everybody knows that the league started discussions with a salary floor a year or a year and a half ago. It is nothing new, just going according to the plan.
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hansomreiste
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It's a tracking device, basically. Hence you can collect all the data, create shot direction, possession maps, etc. easier and much faster.
BalticWarrior
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KHL will be lucky if its even around much longer. Probably will fold back into the old RSL + usual suspects (Belarus and Kazakhstan)
Jussi
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Liiga will use them at every arena next season (had been in test usage): Älykiekko laajenee tulevaksi kaudeksi kaikkiin Liiga-areenoihin
mkev400
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With the exception of Kunlun and Jokerit (whose affiliation agreement is up for renegotiation soon, no?) isn’t that already the case?
BalticWarrior
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Even if the league lost Belarus, Kazahk, China, Finland and Latvia it could still be the Kontinental league.. as it still spans Europe and Asia!
Now that Slovan is gone, and it seems more likely that more teams will leave rather than join from Europe (praying that it will not happen), surely another team would need to fill the gap of Slovan the season after this one?
I know there has been some talk about a second St Petersburg team but I am badly informed on this. Just looking at the basic information it would seem like Dinamo St Petersburg and SKA-Neva could move up to KHL. Neva having done well in the regular season of VHL, having a sizeable arena, in a big city with only one other team in the league. Someone should fill the gap, and Neva/Dinamo is a lot sexier than Novokuznetsk or Yugra.
What do you guys think?
I know there has been some talk about a second St Petersburg team but I am badly informed on this. Just looking at the basic information it would seem like Dinamo St Petersburg and SKA-Neva could move up to KHL. Neva having done well in the regular season of VHL, having a sizeable arena, in a big city with only one other team in the league. Someone should fill the gap, and Neva/Dinamo is a lot sexier than Novokuznetsk or Yugra.
What do you guys think?
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I do not understand why the KHL should stop all their expansion plans to Europe. There is no reason for doing it. I have said many times - clubs leaving have no effect on expansion. They are not connected at all.
Im not saying that they should or will, but it seems less likely given what we know. In the hypothetical scenario that no one west of Russia is filling the gap of Slovan, a new team in Russia is more likely, no?
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Listen to Chernyshenko, there are many options for European expansion. No need to worry about.
mkev400
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I wouldnt even say that a new Russian team is the best idea for the future. A few years ago when they started contracting teams, Im pretty sure a quote or article or some sort of source quoting Chernyschenko said that a feasibility study indicated 24 teams as an optimum for the KHL. The problem with the current 24 teams is unfortunately a huge geographic imbalance which wouldn't be solved by another team in the west (it doesnt matter if its European or Russian). If you look at a distribution map of the league, the East is very thinly spread past Chelyabinsk (furthest team east from the centre-west cluster) and russia being a bit of a more harsh and unforgiving climate area, the strip from Chelyabinsk to Vladivostok as a whole isn't populated enough to (successfully) expand in between.
Nino33
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He did two years ago Dmitry Chernyshenko: "Optimal size of the KHL is 24 clubs"
Among other concerns, the article also noted that 52% of KHL revenues come from state funding (wow that's a lot)
Quote from Chernyshenko from the above link says "I expect that in the not-too-distant future we will see the League expand eastward and westward. I mean, in a season or two. If we talk about the East, then Japan, China, and the host of the forthcoming Winter Olympics, South Korea. And in Europe there are clubs from traditional hockey countries which are showing an interest. "
The "season or two" has passed, no league expansion occurred (but contraction did, both years).
For those that care about hockey/the KHL doubting the reliability of what KHL management/fanboys say seems more than reasonable. Year after year of less money and fewer jobs I'm sure is worrying players.
Barclay Donaldson
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There have been many options for European expansion since the KHL was created. And what has happened to these options? No one from Germany wants a team. No one from Switzerland. No one from Sweden, and certainly no one from Finland. France had a bid submitted, but they didn't even have an arena they wanted to put the team in. The general areas, as outlined here, was that the team would go somewhere in Paris or Marseilles. La France sera-t-elle le prochain pays à être représenté en KHL? So, nothing happening with France. And Slovan failed, with debts up to their noses. No group wants in KHL Europe unless there is some way that KHL becomes business, not social donation. Tens of millions in losses every year covered by state-run companies is not appealing ownership idea.
If the Russians want to finance a new Lev Praha then probably not. But no significant existing team will want to join a league that has no existence west of Minsk. This type of expansion is now dead and buried.
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