Kevyn Adams - New GM

[cybresabre]

However, we do have a replacement for, “it’s a situation”

Adam’s is “ I’m a big believer in........”

Well, he did win the Pegula family over...

 

[Ace]

Next

 

[FrenchConnection]

Well I didnt care about the draft unless they traded #8 for something immediately useful..I just cant get excited about 2-3 year from now guys sorry...im about 5% enthused for this years Sabres prospects going forward...love the Stall deal they are NO WHERE CLOSE yet to a playoff team though.,,, I just think its too much to get done.....Goalie,Grit,scoring wingers....thats 3-4 more guys they need..as NOT A SINGLE guy from AHL or in system fills this need immediately...just have a feeling this will be another NON playoff year and I dont see anything good happening...like i said love the Stall get...butthats not nearly enough.

Wish I could be more optimistic but its just SO MUCH that needs done for this to be a playoff team...

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[WeDislikeEich]

 

[jc17]

I get what they're saying, but the previous regime showed a pretty poor ability to identify players from other teams that would benefit the sabres.

I have no idea if kevyn and nightingale will do a good job or not, but I don't think the organizational changes are what will prevent them from doing so.

Half of hf could construct a better roster than the sabres have had.

 

[Jim Bob]

I get what they're saying, but the previous regime showed a pretty poor ability to identify players from other teams that would benefit the sabres.

I have no idea if kevyn and nightingale will do a good job or not, but I don't think the organizational changes are what will prevent them from doing so.

Half of hf could construct a better roster than the sabres have had.

The issue is that they not only changed GMs, but they completely gutted the FO, as well. They had a barebones scouting staff for the draft and they have a barebones staff to build up the roster on the big club, as well.

 

[jc17]

The issue is that they not only changed GMs, but they completely gutted the FO, as well. They had a barebones scouting staff for the draft and they have a barebones staff to build up the roster on the big club, as well.

Right and I'm saying I don't know if that's a guarantee of failure. The old group had a full staff and failed. How many scouts do you really need to identify decent players?

 

[Jim Bob]

Right and I'm saying I don't know if that's a guarantee of failure. The old group had a full staff and failed. How many scouts do you really need to identify decent players?

With the number of players that didn't get qualified, not having a book on all the players around the league, which they likely don't have given the FO turnover, becomes problematic.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Right and I'm saying I don't know if that's a guarantee of failure. The old group had a full staff and failed. How many scouts do you really need to identify decent players?

Using a magic eight ball to make roster decisions would've worked out better than the previous regime. I also disagree with those tweets. Perfect time to burn it down, considering the alternative.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

And the verdict is....another shitty Pegula hockey hire. They literally hired 1 right regime out of SEVERAL between their two teams. Adams is just another Kim Pegula ass kisser bum who deserves to be the GM of a Squirt House team,not a NHL one. Adams is awful and proved it this week. I hope Kahun puts up 60+ points on a playoff team this year.

 

[Fezzy126]

With the number of players that didn't get qualified, not having a book on all the players around the league, which they likely don't have given the FO turnover, becomes problematic.

The book used by the previous FO identified guys like Frolik, Vesey, Simmonds, and Sobotka. If this board could discriminate between the good and bad then I trust a small group guys doing this full time can assess and grade a list of available players without too much trouble.

 

[OkimLom]

Right and I'm saying I don't know if that's a guarantee of failure. The old group had a full staff and failed. How many scouts do you really need to identify decent players?

You're right, it's not a guarantee of a failure, but boy did they lower those chances of success with their actions of blowing up the FO.

On one hand, if you have less people involved, you can streamline plans quicker. But on the other, less eyes, less minds, and less perspectives really hamper the amount of options you can have at your disposal.

 

[Jim Bob]

The book used by the previous FO identified guys like Frolik, Vesey, Simmonds, and Sobotka. If this board could discriminate between the good and bad then I trust a small group guys doing this full time can assess and grade a list of available players without too much trouble.

The previous staff had people working full time.

And this staff has Terry and Kim giving more input into decisions.

 

[jc17]

You're right, it's not a guarantee of a failure, but boy did they lower those chances of success with their actions of blowing up the FO.

Serious question, what chance of success would you give the old front office. I'd say maybe 35% at best. I don't know that blowing it up lowers those odds

 

[TehDoak]

And the verdict is....another shitty Pegula hockey hire. They literally hired 1 right regime out of SEVERAL between their two teams. Adams is just another Kim Pegula ass kisser bum who deserves to be the GM of a Squirt House team,not a NHL one. Adams is awful and proved it this week. I hope Kahun puts up 60+ points on a playoff team this year.

I'm pessimistic but willing to give the GM a chance to rebuild the group. I'm very worried about the "leave spots for Amerks" line. Other than 4C with Asplund and Ruotsalainen, and maybe CJ Smith, I don't see a lot of natural open spots in our forward group. On D you have potentially a spot for Borgen if you trade two RHD.

 

[Jim Bob]

Serious question, what chance of success would you give the old front office. I'd say maybe 35% at best. I don't know that blowing it up lowers those odds

 

[Buffaloed]

The book used by the previous FO identified guys like Frolik, Vesey, Simmonds, and Sobotka. If this board could discriminate between the good and bad then I trust a small group guys doing this full time can assess and grade a list of available players without too much trouble.

It's a situation where it was imperative to re-sign Vesey, Simmonds, and Sobotka before they hit unrestricted free agency. A scenario with so many unrestricted free agents was unpredictable. There's no money left in the budget to pursue any.

 

[Paxon]

This statement doesn't really make sense. Why would front office turnover necessitate a lack of pro scouting knowledge? It might be the case if you bring in pro scouts who weren't pro scouts through last season or your GM is green or whatever, but it isn't some inherent truth.

 

[Buffaloed]

The previous staff had people working full time.

And this staff has Terry and Kim giving more input into decisions.

I can't decide which is the lesser of two evils.

 

[Jim Bob]

This statement doesn't really make sense. Why would front office turnover necessitate a lack of pro scouting knowledge? It might be the case if you bring in pro scouts who weren't pro scouts through last season or your GM is green or whatever, but it isn't some inherent truth.

The issue is the lack of a runway to develop a solid book for all the players around the league with how the GM wants to build the team.

Just like how they started from scratch on the draft prospects because Adams has a different take on what a "Sabres player" is and how he wants to build the team.

The Sabres both have a smaller staff and not a lot of time to build a book on all the guys that are hitting UFA, especially the RFAs that didn't get a QO that they likely didn't expect to be UFAs.

 

[Jim Bob]

I can't decide which is the lesser of two evils.

Well, given the recency bias of from the draft and not qualifying Kahun, I am less enthusiastic. If we go back 72 hours and the last things Adams did was trade for Staal....

 

[OkimLom]

Serious question, what chance of success would you give the old front office. I'd say maybe 35% at best. I don't know that blowing it up lowers those odds

In terms of how they were structured and reportedly how open they were to listening to differing opinions, I'd say pretty damn low. Botterill was reportedly closed off from those in the front office and ownership in terms of access and ideas. If there was someone open, and competent with the amount of people we had in the office, I'd say it would be higher than what it was and what it is currently.

When you have only a few people around in the FO, and you're looking to build a team, the options/ideas at your disposal can only be of those that those around can come up with. When you have more people around, obviously, the amount of potential ideas/opinions/options increases. Of course there's an oversaturation point of having too many people and too many ideas in the room. But I don't believe having 4 minds working on trying to fix the team, one of which is the incompetent team owner, is a good number of people to have in the circle.

 

[BananaSquad]

And the verdict is....another shitty Pegula hockey hire. They literally hired 1 right regime out of SEVERAL between their two teams. Adams is just another Kim Pegula ass kisser bum who deserves to be the GM of a Squirt House team,not a NHL one. Adams is awful and proved it this week. I hope Kahun puts up 60+ points on a playoff team this year.

I mean he never hit 60+ in Pittsburgh but ya I agree! f*** Pegula and Adams! Bills 4-0

 

[Jim Bob]

I like what Chicago has been doing, so this seems like a good add.

The Lansing, Mich., native played hockey at Adrian College in Michigan and earned his master's degree in Sport Administration from Canisius College in Buffalo, N.Y. There, he served as Director of Hockey Operations for the Golden Griffins.

I'm guessing there is some familiarity there.