Fjordy
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I wouldn't underestimate these guys, they have RBA and a system where even the least stellar and creative players do the same thing. Also, I don't think they're done yet.
Kevyn Adams GM thread
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Ace
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The latest athletic hockey podcast answered a question about the Sabres trading for a top 6 forward…and boy they didn’t hold back on Kevyn Adams and his Sabres.
Need more of this national scrutiny and it needs to be louder until he is out.
Need more of this national scrutiny and it needs to be louder until he is out.
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sabremike
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The league needs to create an award for the worst executive of the year (Call it the Ed Johnston Award) so that Adams can win it unanimously next June. The fact that the few people defending him and this organization are already pushing the "wait until 25/26" line says it all.
Zman5778
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Starts at 56:00.
And it's not nearly what Ace says it is. Speculated that Buffalo got worse. Said spending $69M towards the cap right now "ain't gonna get it done, especially in the Atlantic".
Frankly, I think they DID hold back on calling Adams on the carpet. Kinda sounded like maybe they wanted to, but didn't. Said we needed another defenseman and a replacement for Skinner, but don't have the "raw materials"....whatever that means.
Yeah it was pretty tame
Essentially said there really aren’t any excuses and they are in the group of teams that want to take the next step but all the teams in front of them improved and they didn’t.
Seriously, what is the long-term plan here? The arena lease is up 2027. I can see us missing the playoffs this year again very easily.
is there a clause in the lease that says if they don't sell enough tickets, they can relocate to phoenix or houston?
Honestly, I think the plan is to spend as little as they can out of pocket until the Bills stadium is done. Once that is done, the Bills go back to being a cash cow for them and then they can negotiate a new arena lease.
The million-dollar question is what's in the lease. If you think Paul Hamilton/Mike Harrington will dig that up, forget it. As we get closer, some Canadian national or other hockey media will get on this. And you can expect Pegula camp to leak stuff if they don't get what they need in the renovation. Who knows? Maybe, there is zero issues, and $400 Million or whatever gets approved, and he signs a long-term lease, and it's all a footnote.
I will say one thing. There is zero way Pegula agreed to a deal that keeps the Sabres in Buffalo in perpetuity under any circumstances. No way. Such an agreement would leave any owner at the mercy of their arena landlord. You'd have to sign anything because everybody would know you could never move the team. (That's beyond the question of whether such a permanent agreement would be even valid.)
The Sabres need to win, and it all likely solves itself. But the franchise and fan base is being chipped away by really bad management. That said, Buffalo's history with hockey is impressive and to really destroy the franchise, they have more work to do. People still love the team (me included) even in spite of all of it.
Djp
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Improved ? Really?
I dont see other teams improved all that much. Its just replacing what was lost
That "new car smell" was made in amherst
There is really nothing that Kevyn Adams has done in his tenure that has made me feel he made some great, or even a real good move.
The Red Helmet
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People think the Pegula who owns the Bills and is in the process of building a new stadium for the team is going to turn around after that process is completed and move the Sabres out of Buffalo or sell them off to someone who is going to move them? Come on.
Especially after he spent all that money revitalizing the area around the arena
Doug Prishpreed
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I don’t think he’d ever move the team, but there have been rumors that he’s explored selling the unprofitable team and it wouldn’t shock me if he did sell within the next 5 years. With some kind of clause saying it couldn’t be moved (I don’t think the NHL would even allow it to move anyway.)
I could also see him keeping it his whole life. No one knows, so no one can speak to this topic with any kind of authority.
sabremike
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I would think that demanding hundreds of millions of dollars from the municipality/taxpayers for the worst team in hockey history that just missed the playoffs for 16 straight seasons after soaking them for the throwball palace probably isn't going to go down well.
Agreed. There is absolutely no way that happens. I could see him selling (and I even doubt that) but definitely not moving them.
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2 to 3 years ago from 2022 puts this at 2019 or 2020. Adams became GM in 2020.
So this tweet gets us no closer to knowing if it was Botts or Adams who almost traded Tage for a 5th.
You left out the .330 year by Adams.
sabremike
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It's odd that the single most catastrophic blunder Adams made last offseason is the one that gets the least attention: Handing Granato an extension when there was absolutely no need to do so. This essentially made firing him mid season when everything went to shit to save the season an impossibility.
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Granato got his extension in October 2022 when he had two full years remaining on his contract, which makes the extension even more baffling,
sabremike
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For some reason I thought it was last offseason but you are correct on both counts.
Raw materials? f***, how many draft picks do they have to make? *sigh*
Feeling less hopeful about this than last year and last summer was pretty dark.
sabremike
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Nobody in the league appears to value our prospects enough to trade established good NHL players for them.
