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sabremike said:
Many years back in the early 80's there was a franchise that was viewed as every bit a basket case laughingstock as the Sabres: The New York Mets. From 1977 when they made the most infamous trade in baseball history (The Midnight Massacre) on they were a bottomfeeder playing in front of a completely empty Shea Stadium. In 1983, they ended up with a chance to acquire Keith Hernandez from defending champs St Louis (and make no mistake: offering him to the Mets was an act of spite by Hertzog and the Cards to Keith) and took it. Keith was absolutely devastated, going to a perennial loser everyone laughed at and wanted no part of it. Frank Cashen convinced him to give it a shot, and he soon realized that playing in NY for the Mets wasn't so bad. Things quickly turned around and a little over 3 years later Keith was mobbing Jesse Orosco on the Shea Stadium mound after the final out of the World Series.

Something for Kevyn to think about and learn from.
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One of my biggest issues with this regime is how little innovation or outside the box thinking there has been.

If you KNOW you can’t attract the free agents and get guys with no movement clauses to waive…how do you try nothing? Nothing?

Where are the offer sheet overpays to either acquire talent or screw opponents shaking other players off their roster during years of cap crunch?

Where is the using of cap space, the most valuable resource in the league for the last five years, to buy yourself assets and allowing you to overpay for trades down the line?

Where is something as simple as salary retention on vets being moved out to maximize return?

Where is the 5 assets for 1 trade that maybe two teams in the league can pull off given their cap situation and plethora of futures? We’ve been on the other end of that shit. TWICE.

They do nothing to help the team and use the assets they do have. You know why? Because anything they do costs MONEY. f*** the palm trees. f*** the taxes. f*** the drought. f*** it all. Adams’ biggest obstacle is, and has been, and will continue to be…MONEY.
 
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sabremike said:
Many years back in the early 80's there was a franchise that was viewed as every bit a basket case laughingstock as the Sabres: The New York Mets. From 1977 when they made the most infamous trade in baseball history (The Midnight Massacre) on they were a bottomfeeder playing in front of a completely empty Shea Stadium. In 1983, they ended up with a chance to acquire Keith Hernandez from defending champs St Louis (and make no mistake: offering him to the Mets was an act of spite by Hertzog and the Cards to Keith) and took it. Keith was absolutely devastated, going to a perennial loser everyone laughed at and wanted no part of it. Frank Cashen convinced him to give it a shot, and he soon realized that playing in NY for the Mets wasn't so bad. Things quickly turned around and a little over 3 years later Keith was mobbing Jesse Orosco on the Shea Stadium mound after the final out of the World Series.

Something for Kevyn to think about and learn from.
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Kevin needed this and a back up while we were above 500 weathering tage and samuelson he fookin failed two zucker types d and forward reliable would have worked but he grasped his magic beans and those take longer to grow even if he's completely correct Now Kev or get out the way for somebody w a pair
 
Ace said:
One of my biggest issues with this regime is how little innovation or outside the box thinking there has been.

If you KNOW you can’t attract the free agents and get guys with no movement clauses to waive…how do you try nothing? Nothing?

Where are the offer sheet overpays to either acquire talent or screw opponents shaking other players off their roster during years of cap crunch?

Where is the using of cap space, the most valuable resource in the league for the last five years, to buy yourself assets and allowing you to overpay for trades down the line?

Where is something as simple as salary retention on vets being moved out to maximize return?

Where is the 5 assets for 1 trade that maybe two teams in the league can pull off given their cap situation and plethora of futures? We’ve been on the other end of that shit. TWICE.

They do nothing to help the team and use the assets they do have. You know why? Because anything they do costs MONEY. f*** the palm trees. f*** the taxes. f*** the drought. f*** it all. Adams’ biggest obstacle is, and has been, and will continue to be…MONEY.
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There are only two options that exist at this point,

1. Kevyn Adams is telling the truth. Pegula has given them every resource possible. In which case, he gutted his own scouting staffs and front office because he’s a moron and chooses not to utilize his cap space in any way during an era where teams need it. If this is your option he is the worst GM in history and can’t be here for one more day

2. Kevyn Adams is lying and his main job is to save money. In which case, he actively goes out and blames outside forces out of his control while covering up and flat and flat out lying about the state of this franchise and how it operates. No one wants to hear about f***ing location and taxes when you won’t even retain a dollar on a trade and you try zero things that would add to payroll to fix your f***ing mess. But he can stay as GM forever because nothing matters and this will be a poverty franchise until Terry or his descendants sell it for a massive profit to someone who will move it somewhere else.

Pick your f***ing poison. But don’t tell me that Adams doing nothing and trying nothing is anything but an accelerator on bad time lines. The only hope is that this bumble f*** stumbles his way into success and turns the franchise around. So the less he tries…the less likely we are to get out of this…or have a hockey team.

You still riding with this guy?
 
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He cries about disadvantages while the teams with those advantages would kill for the assets he squanders every year. Because they’re trying to win. And they could turn millions of dollars and a boatload of prospects into the difference between a wild card and a cup. He can’t even turn them into a #4 D to play with Owen Power.

We are not the same.
 
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Ace said:
There are only two options that exist at this point,

1. Kevyn Adams is telling the truth. Pegula has given them every resource possible. In which case, he gutted his own scouting staffs and front office because he’s a moron and chooses not to utilize his cap space in any way during an era where teams need it. If this is your option he is the worst GM in history and can’t be here for one more day

2. Kevyn Adams is lying and his main job is to save money. In which case, he actively goes out and blames outside forces out of his control while covering up and flat and flat out lying about the state of this franchise and how it operates. No one wants to hear about f***ing location and taxes when you won’t even retain a dollar on a trade and you try zero things that would add to payroll to fix your f***ing mess. But he can stay as GM forever because nothing matters and this will be a poverty franchise until Terry or his descendants sell it for a massive profit to someone who will move it somewhere else.

Pick your f***ing poison. But don’t tell me that Adams doing nothing and trying nothing is anything but an accelerator on bad time lines. The only hope is that this bumble f*** stumbles his way into success and turns the franchise around. So the less he tries…the less likely we are to get out of this…or have a hockey team.

You still riding with this guy?
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#1 is obviously ridiculous.

#2 is what's been going on. The problem is, that means anyone else that comes in will be working under the same constraints, and that nobody with an actual track record of success would accept the job and work under those conditions.

The franchis is @#$%ed.
 

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How much of it is him trying to force his way off this roster?
I'm beginning to wonder how much of it is for quite a few of them



this is the worry and Rochester can make him sit if this is true was he around eichel forever fookin our franchise w tools like kev stay away from the team kvyn you fook
 
If Kevyn Adams is just a mouth piece for Terry Pegula then why would be be fired?

Thats where I see it.
 
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There are only two options that exist at this point,

1. Kevyn Adams is telling the truth. Pegula has given them every resource possible. In which case, he gutted his own scouting staffs and front office because he’s a moron and chooses not to utilize his cap space in any way during an era where teams need it. If this is your option he is the worst GM in history and can’t be here for one more day

2. Kevyn Adams is lying and his main job is to save money. In which case, he actively goes out and blames outside forces out of his control while covering up and flat and flat out lying about the state of this franchise and how it operates. No one wants to hear about f***ing location and taxes when you won’t even retain a dollar on a trade and you try zero things that would add to payroll to fix your f***ing mess. But he can stay as GM forever because nothing matters and this will be a poverty franchise until Terry or his descendants sell it for a massive profit to someone who will move it somewhere else.

Pick your f***ing poison. But don’t tell me that Adams doing nothing and trying nothing is anything but an accelerator on bad time lines. The only hope is that this bumble f*** stumbles his way into success and turns the franchise around. So the less he tries…the less likely we are to get out of this…or have a hockey team.

You still riding with this guy?
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Someone needs to ask this question. Which is it, Kevvy?
 
Ace said:
There are only two options that exist at this point,



2. Kevyn Adams is lying and his main job is to save money. In which case, he actively goes out and blames outside forces out of his control while covering up and flat and flat out lying about the state of this franchise and how it operates. No one wants to hear about f***ing location and taxes when you won’t even retain a dollar on a trade and you try zero things that would add to payroll to fix your f***ing mess. But he can stay as GM forever because nothing matters and this will be a poverty franchise until Terry or his descendants sell it for a massive profit to someone who will move it somewhere else.
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He had no problem being the hatchet man during a pandemic.. What a weasel. #2 is the correct answer.
 
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The team is currently icing a pair of 2nd pairing level defencemen with no chemistry between them, a #6, a #7, a prospect whose ceiling is a #7, and a AHL level 2nd pairing guy. For whatever reason Adams is resistant to fixing that. Gonna be miserable when Dahlin wants out.
 
any real info

afraid to score a goal
unwilling to win after proving they can

inside info only who what why wtf unwatchable

red wings broadcaster told the score would be 6 5 at start of third at 6 5. even if it's somet

hing else , mutiny? insanity no sun in buff whatever


Adams is clearly a problem and must go and a real Hockey guy must find out what's obvious


Red Wings Ai? announcer told the final score and put the scorers up on a parlay exactly at 5 3 at start of third Enough this team franchise is dead until truth is told w each player w new GM , did ruff return after fired to do this all speculation and conjecture lible etc

this board should also cease until anyone inside posts F this unwatchable what's next suicide , fear to play lost love to play This has turned toxic to the point of destruction or it's dead in locker room . everything thought is character assassination w no info wtf

fook off til this mystery , which I'm sure is obvious thru building

mutiny

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PSYCHO-ELECTRONIC WEAPON EFFECTS

MIND:

– Forced memory blanking and induced erroneous actions
– Reading and broadcasting thoughts
– Controlled dreams / Forced waking visions, some synced with body motion

HEARING:
– Induced changes to hearing – Both apparent direction and volume and sometimes even content
– Microwave hearing*
– Artificial tinnitus

EYES:

– Sudden, violent itching inside eyelids
– “Transparent eyelids”

VOICE/JAW/AIRWAYS:

– Forced manipulation of airways, including externally controlled forced SPEECH
– Forced movement of jaw and clacking of teeth

CHEST AND BACK:

– Wildly racing heart without cause
– Forced “muscle quaking” of the large muscles on the back

ARMS & HANDS:

– Remotely induced violent no-rash itching, with preference for hard-to-reach areas, often during delicate or messy work
– Forced nudging of arm during delicate or messy work, causing injury or spills
– Forced precision manipulation of hands, sometimes sync’ed to the forced waking visions

GENITALS:

– Special attention to genital area: itching, forced orgasm, intense pain

LEGS & FEET:

– Intense general pain, or hot-needles-pushed-deep-into-flesh sensations
– Also – wild flailing, sometimes followed by short periods of “rigor mortis”
– Hard to reach itch site, top and bottom, never any rash, which often starts as the sensation of small electrical shocks
– “Demo” neuro-control by bending each toe backwards almost 90 degrees,
 
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Were clearly f***ed. But we still have a young talented roster and plenty of assets. Fire Adams and get a gm willing to commit to a deal. Make a good buy for a few years at the deadline and then get a top 6 and top 4 player in the offseason. Peterka and Quinn will eventually find their way to being good players here, and I don't want to sell super low on them.

Time to put Quinn in for Peterka for a few games, he needs a seat.
 
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toddkaz said:
That wasn't what was going on over the summer. Necas was actively being shopped.
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Necas was being shopped and didn't move.

Ehlers was being shopped and didn't move.

Adams said he thought he had a deal done for a player and the player didn't move.

You can't make a GM trade a guy that he would rather keep. And you can bet that other GMs would use the threat of a trade to a team like Buffalo to get a guy to stay put.
 
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Were clearly f***ed. But we still have a young talented roster and plenty of assets. Fire Adams and get a gm willing to commit to a deal. Make a good buy for a few years at the deadline and then get a top 6 and top 4 player in the offseason. Peterka and Quinn will eventually find their way to being good players here, and I don't want to sell super low on them.

Time to put Quinn in for Peterka for a few games, he needs a seat.
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When is this lie going to stop?
 
Ace said:
There are only two options that exist at this point,

1. Kevyn Adams is telling the truth. Pegula has given them every resource possible. In which case, he gutted his own scouting staffs and front office because he’s a moron and chooses not to utilize his cap space in any way during an era where teams need it. If this is your option he is the worst GM in history and can’t be here for one more day

2. Kevyn Adams is lying and his main job is to save money. In which case, he actively goes out and blames outside forces out of his control while covering up and flat and flat out lying about the state of this franchise and how it operates. No one wants to hear about f***ing location and taxes when you won’t even retain a dollar on a trade and you try zero things that would add to payroll to fix your f***ing mess. But he can stay as GM forever because nothing matters and this will be a poverty franchise until Terry or his descendants sell it for a massive profit to someone who will move it somewhere else.

Pick your f***ing poison. But don’t tell me that Adams doing nothing and trying nothing is anything but an accelerator on bad time lines. The only hope is that this bumble f*** stumbles his way into success and turns the franchise around. So the less he tries…the less likely we are to get out of this…or have a hockey team.

You still riding with this guy?
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I think it is 1.5.

Kevyn Adams is a rookie GM without any experience in an NHL hockey ops role prior to being named GM.

So, he shouldn't be the GM because he isn't qualified to be an NHL GM, let alone for a team that needs to be rebuilt and is in the midst of a decade+ long playoff drought.

But, I also believe that Pegula absolutely wants Adams to work "economically" which is code for on a budget. That is why on day one Adams had to fire close to two dozen people on staff. That's why they have one of the smallest pro scouting staffs in the entire league. That's why they didn't allow Ruff to bring in any outside coaches. That is why they don't retain on trades. That is why Adams doesn't think about the salary cap. That is why Adams hasn't hired a veteran NHL GM to at least be an advisor as he learns the ropes of being an NHL GM.

So, I do not believe that Pegula is giving Adams every resource possible to build a winner. And Adams is a good little Pegula soldier and goes in front of the media and does whatever he can to try and deflect blame from Pegula.

As long as Adams does what Pegula wants, takes the shots from the media, and keeps the budget tight, I have no hope that Adams gets replaced.

And even if Adams were fired tomorrow, I have no expectation that they will hire a veteran NHL GM that I would expect to be able to build a winner. I would expect that they promote Karmanos, the budget stuff remains in place, and nothing really changes.
 
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Not ranked: Buffalo Sabres — It’s been a rough week in what some are calling the NHL’s most hopeless market. They’ve lost six straight, and their GM is trying to calm nerves. That part is not going well.



I’ll be honest, that doesn’t sound unreasonable to me. But I’m not a frustrated Sabres fan who hasn’t seen a postseason in going on 14 years, so I might be feeling just a bit more charitable than others. And the money line about palm trees and taxes came in the context of a defensive availability that may have tip-toed a little too close to making excuses.

It all led to fans showing up to Saturday’s loss with inflatable palm trees, which is pretty fantastic. They also chanted “Fire Kevyn,” which isn’t as funny as well-executed prop comedy but probably matters quite a bit more. It definitely feels like we’re nearing some sort of tipping point in Buffalo, yet again.

This week starts with tonight’s matchup with the Red Wings, a fellow self-proclaimed Atlantic playoff contender that’s crashing and burning to the tune of five straight losses. And if that wasn’t enough of a Hopelessness Bowl for you, the Sabres’ next opponent is the Rangers.

That could be two wins that take some of the heat off. It could also be two losses that crank the temperature in Buffalo even higher. Not quite palm-tree high, mind you, but still pretty high. If you see a Sabres fan, hug them. They could use it these days.
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