Kevyn Adams GM thread

[Jim Bob]

just fire him and appoint Karmanos as interim GM till some vet option becomes feasible

What makes you think that Pegula would hire a veteran GM?

There have been 4 GMs hired under the Pegula ownership of the Bills and Sabres. All 4 have been first time GMs (Murray, Botterill, Beane, and Adams).

There is no evidence that Pegula would hire a veteran NHL GM and let them build things the right way.

 

[Fjordsen]

What makes you think that Pegula would hire a veteran GM?

There have been 4 GMs hired under the Pegula ownership of the Bills and Sabres. All 4 have been first time GMs (Murray, Botterill, Beane, and Adams).

There is no evidence that Pegula would hire a veteran NHL GM and let them build things the right way.

Sometimes even the clock shows the right time twice a day. So I wouldn't be surprised. He hired Bean once. But it can be an experienced POHO/advisor and GM without experience as a GM, but with experience as an AGM.

 

[Tijuana Donkey Show]

just fire him and appoint Karmanos as interim GM till some vet option becomes feasible

You'll get Forton and you'll...hate it

Sometimes even the clock shows the right time twice a day. So I wouldn't be surprised. He hired Bean once. But it can be an experienced POHO/advisor and GM without experience as a GM, but with experience as an AGM.

Pegula only uses digital with AM/PM. Clock can only be right once per day.

Odds are low, but possible.

 

[truthbluth]

I’m such a sucker. I honestly expected this mf’er to be fired by now.

 

[Fjordsen]

I’m such a sucker. I honestly expected this mf’er to be fired by now.

This should be a Christmas gift.

 

[SabresFan26]

Came in to see if he had been fired yet.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

What makes you think that Pegula would hire a veteran GM?

There have been 4 GMs hired under the Pegula ownership of the Bills and Sabres. All 4 have been first time GMs (Murray, Botterill, Beane, and Adams).

There is no evidence that Pegula would hire a veteran NHL GM and let them build things the right way.

Yeah, this is it folks. They’re rebuilding from the draft, whether it takes 5 years or 10, and they’re allowing their young prospect GM to make mistakes as he develops in the majors.

 

[toddkaz]

Came in to see if he had been fired yet.

I check every day. Unfortunately Pegula can't fire himself.

 

[Tijuana Donkey Show]

Came in to see if he had been fired yet.

I am genuinely shocked he hasn't been. It may not be picking up pace at a national level, but locally this is about as angry as I have seen the fan base at any one person in the org.

This sort of reminds me of when Trent Edwards was booed off the field and asked something like "If you were Bills fan how would you feel about that performance?" and he responded with "I am not a Bills fan, I am a Bills player".

There was no coming back from that. The city turned on him. It was over. He could have been our Tom Brady. It didn't matter. Toast.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Sabres PP playing at near Tank Levels now


PP Disaster continues

 

[Fjordsen]

Sabres playing at near Tank Levels now


PP Disaster continues

Was Rochester's PP good under Appert and was he responsible for the PP there? I just don't understand what he's doing on the bench.

Or maybe Adams is simply developing Appert as a PP coach? Well, like we had with young players under Granato, a development season, but only for the coach.

 

[debaser66]

What makes you think that Pegula would hire a veteran GM?

There have been 4 GMs hired under the Pegula ownership of the Bills and Sabres. All 4 have been first time GMs (Murray, Botterill, Beane, and Adams).

There is no evidence that Pegula would hire a veteran NHL GM and let them build things the right way.

I just laid out a possible good move.
Do I believe he will do those things.
With his kind of flexibility I wonder if it's just the age or if he lucked into his money mostly by chance.
He can't be that stupid can he?

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Was Rochester's PP good under Appert and was he responsible for the PP there? I just don't understand what he's doing on the bench.

Or maybe Adams is simply developing Appert as a PP coach? Well, like we had with young players under Granato, a development season, but only for the coach.

They don't want to pay big money for a coach, so thats why Appert was supposed to be successor apparent to Lindy and might of even been hired if Lindy didn't get the job.

If memory serves his Power play in Roch was about average. @Chainshot will know for sure.

 

[May Day 10]

Maybe Appert, who has never had to coach adults in his life, and hasn't really had any real success anywhere, shouldn't be groomed to become head coach?

 

[Chainshot]

They don't want to pay big money for a coach, so thats why Appert was supposed to be successor apparent to Lindy and might of even been hired if Lindy didn't get the job.

If memory serves his Power play in Roch was about average. @Chainshot will know for sure.

Appert's teams in Rochester by PP%:

2020-21 - 4th in the AHL at 23.2%
2021-22 - 2nd in the AHL at 23.1%
2022-23 - 14th in the AHL at 19.9%
2023-24 - 18th in the AHL at 17.5%

Of note, this year they are currently 28th at 13.9%

 

[TehDoak]

Maybe Appert, who has never had to coach adults in his life, and hasn't really had any real success anywhere, shouldn't be groomed to become head coach?

C'mon, getting people with zero experience and letting them figure it out is an organization staple! That or getting a guy who is running a soccer team to be your coach.

 

[Ace]

This man stood in front of people and explained that he was incapable of doing his job. He blamed outside forces while purposely ignoring the internal ones. Five years sitting on cap space and prospects…you can shove your whining about what you don’t have right up your ass.

Then, when pressed about his team circling the drain for the fifth straight year under his watch…said he wasn’t going to overreact to a few games. Even though it’s year five. And a few games later they’ve only gotten worse and more embarrassing. Effectively saying…he isn’t interested in doing his job even if he was capable of doing so. Which he made clear he is not.

Has to stop.

Immediately.

He has to f***ing go.

 

[Ace]

Also I don't know why Adams continues to target these players. Plenty of players without these clauses.

So he can tell you that he’s trying but the whole world is against him while not spending money.

in the Necas case…there was zero reason not to do it. So you might have him for only two years? As a great player who helps your team? Oh no.

The real question there is why the f*** did Adams think what happens two years from now matters if he doesn’t start winning? He’s more worried about his seventh f***ing off-season than the one that was supposed to turn them around (two years too late)?

When in doubt…go cheap and risk free. Best ways to turn around this franchise. The true organizational plans right there.

 

[toddkaz]

So he can tell you that he’s trying but the whole world is against him while not spending money.

in the Necas case…there was zero reason not to do it. So you might have him for only two years? As a great player who helps your team? Oh no.

The real question there is why the f*** did Adams think what happens two years from now matters if he doesn’t start winning? He’s more worried about his seventh f***ing off-season than the one that was supposed to turn them around (two years too late)?

When in doubt…go cheap and risk free. Best ways to turn around this franchise. The true organizational plans right there.

I agree, when it comes to Necas if he wants to leave as a free agent teams are lining up at the trade deadline to get someone like him.

You are going to get your investment back.

 

[Jim Bob]

I just laid out a possible good move.
Do I believe he will do those things.
With his kind of flexibility I wonder if it's just the age or if he lucked into his money mostly by chance.
He can't be that stupid can he?

Pegula has hired 4 GMs for the Sabres and Bills. All four have been rookie GMs.

Pegula has a type. I will expect the next Sabres GM hire to follow that type until Pegula breaks from his pattern.

 

[Jim Bob]

Sometimes even the clock shows the right time twice a day. So I wouldn't be surprised. He hired Bean once. But it can be an experienced POHO/advisor and GM without experience as a GM, but with experience as an AGM.

Pegula has said repeatedly that he doesn't want a POHO.

I will believe that he is open to hiring someone experienced for that role when it happens. Terry has been as dismissive of that in the past as Adams was about having the youngest team in the league again being an issue.

 

[OkimLom]

Pegula has hired 4 GMs for the Sabres and Bills. All four have been rookie GMs.

Pegula has a type. I will expect the next Sabres GM hire to follow that type until Pegula breaks from his pattern.

I would say, that with a typical businessman mindset, you would eventually want to think about how you are going about the hiring process. This honestly feels like a "Egotistical Legacy" sort of thing where he wants to be known as the guy that made "someone" or something and that through his own business sense that he became successful. These sort of hirings feel like there's something outside of building a successful business that is at play here..

 

[Fjordsen]

Pegula has said repeatedly that he doesn't want a POHO.

I will believe that he is open to hiring someone experienced for that role when it happens. Terry has been as dismissive of that in the past as Adams was about having the youngest team in the league again being an issue.

Well then an experienced GM or I hope he's lucky enough to find his Zito (he could have hired him when he interviewed him).

 

[Jim Bob]

Well then an experienced GM or I hope he's lucky enough to find his Zito (he could have hired him when he interviewed him).

Again, I will believe it when I see it.

Pegula has been unwilling to hire a competent, experienced NHL GM in his first three hires. And his latest hire was wholly unqualified for the job. But, Pegula hired him anyway because he liked him and he felt like Adams would listen to what Pegula wanted.

Pegula has never stated that he values prior experience as a GM when hiring a GM.

I can hope that will change. But, I won't expect it.

 

[Fjordsen]

Again, I will believe it when I see it.

Pegula has been unwilling to hire a competent, experienced NHL GM in his first three hires. And his latest hire was wholly unqualified for the job. But, Pegula hired him anyway because he liked him and he felt like Adams would listen to what Pegula wanted.

Pegula has never stated that he values prior experience as a GM when hiring a GM.

I can hope that will change. But, I won't expect it.

Wait, but did Pegula pick his own GM? Didn't the league tell him to hire Murray and Botterill? Adams was just an economic filler and an acquaintance of the "Yes" man. Maybe this time Terry won't listen to the league's advice and hire an experienced GM.