Value of: Kevin Fiala

[Dr Jan Itor]

Lol, this is on Byfield + level

Holtz is a projected elite goal scoring winger.
The Devils peeps made it clear that they desperately looking for sniper type winger
and you offer the all rounder, asking for their only sniper type and demand a +

I can already see in couple of month, the Minny guys denying that this offer has ever been made and ask for evidence

No, it isn't.

 

[Filip Karlsson]

Lol, this is on Byfield + level

Holtz is a projected elite goal scoring winger.
The Devils peeps made it clear that they desperately looking for sniper type winger
and you offer the all rounder, asking for their only sniper type and demand a +

I can already see in couple of month, the Minny guys denying that this offer has ever been made and ask for evidence

I know it's an unreasonable ask! I'm just really high on Holtz. My ”ironic tone” didn't come through at all. Don't hold my post against Wild fans hehe!

 

[Filip Karlsson]

No, it isn't.

It's not, but still too much for Fiala

 

[Digitalbooya]

I’ll admit it, I made a bad proposal earlier this thread around Holtz+late 1st. To defend myself a little bit, I thought I read somewhere (mistakenly) that Holtz’s stock had fallen since his draft.

I’m still baffled at any proposal involving Byfield+ and Fiala. The only time I’ve seen Byfield+ was talking about Kaprizov and I’m not afraid to say that Byfield+ is a reasonable ask for a player of Kaprizov’s level. I don’t give a shit what any other team’s posters think. No one is telling you to press the buy button.

 

[Kurrilino]

I’ll admit it, I made a bad proposal earlier this thread around Holtz+late 1st. To defend myself a little bit, I thought I read somewhere (mistakenly) that Holtz’s stock had fallen since his draft.

I’m still baffled at any proposal involving Byfield+ and Fiala. The only time I’ve seen Byfield+ was talking about Kaprizov and I’m not afraid to say that Byfield+ is a reasonable ask for a player of Kaprizov’s level. I don’t give a shit what any other team’s posters think. No one is telling you to press the buy button.

Well yeah.. Byfield + is always a reasonable thing to ask.
But for the sake of getting a trade done, this is a 100% no go from the Kings .

It's the same if i would propose Boldy + for Iafallo.
Sure it would be reasonable, but i already know the answer from the Wild peeps since nobody in his right mind would give up on untapped potential without taking a look first

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I’ll admit it, I made a bad proposal earlier this thread around Holtz+late 1st. To defend myself a little bit, I thought I read somewhere (mistakenly) that Holtz’s stock had fallen since his draft.

I’m still baffled at any proposal involving Byfield+ and Fiala. The only time I’ve seen Byfield+ was talking about Kaprizov and I’m not afraid to say that Byfield+ is a reasonable ask for a player of Kaprizov’s level. I don’t give a shit what any other team’s posters think. No one is telling you to press the buy button.

Holtz + 1st is a defensible initial ask, just in case New Jersey has a momentary slip. Then it'd be up to us to decide if we'd accept Holtz + lesser pick or a lesser prospect + 1st.

 

[keppel146]

Well yeah.. Byfield + is always a reasonable thing to ask.
But for the sake of getting a trade done, this is a 100% no go from the Kings .

It's the same if i would propose Boldy + for Iafallo.
Sure it would be reasonable, but i already know the answer from the Wild peeps since nobody in his right mind would give up on untapped potential without taking a look first

Are you comparing Byfield+ for Kaprizov, to Boldy+ for Iafallo?

 

[keppel146]

Holtz + 1st is a defensible initial ask, just in case New Jersey has a momentary slip. Then it'd up to us to decide if we'd accept Holtz + lesser pick or a lesser prospect + 1st.

Yes I’d take holtz+ less than 1st for Fiala.

 

[Victorious Secret]

I'd take Holtz straight up, tbh.

 

[saywut]

Fiala for Holtz straight up in the offseason is fine. Can't imagine a team at the top of their division would trade one of their top forwards without receiving NHL help in return in the middle of the season.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Well yeah.. Byfield + is always a reasonable thing to ask.
But for the sake of getting a trade done, this is a 100% no go from the Kings .

It's the same if i would propose Boldy + for Iafallo.
Sure it would be reasonable, but i already know the answer from the Wild peeps since nobody in his right mind would give up on untapped potential without taking a look first

I would love for you to explain how Iafallo = Kaprizov in this comparison. Even with the understanding that Boldy is a step down from Byfield, Iafallo is a giant leap down from Kaprizov... Not to mention he is 28 while Kaprizov is 24.

 

[57special]

Again, I hope that MN gives Fiala a chance to play with at least one talented player on his line for at least a month or so. Boldy looks terrific down in the AHL, and might be just the thing. They are not going to break up Zuccarello and Kaprizov, nor should they, and the JEE line is more of a dump and chase, crash bang line. Very effective, but not a style that fits Fiala's skill.

 

[GetBentDotCom]

Let it be known this is also the same guy that thinks Roy and a 2nd can get boeser.

What a schmuck

 

[verbalkint47]

Vilardi + 2022 2nd for Fiala

 

[GuerinUp]

Vilardi + 2022 2nd for Fiala

id heavily consider this....

 

[DeagleJenkins]

id heavily consider this....

if we are for sure selling with no attempt to resign, i do not see how this is not one of if not the best offer we can expect for Fiala alone.

 

[Kurrilino]

Vilardi + 2022 2nd for Fiala

absolutely not

Fiala is not a player the Kings need in their future while Vilardi is.
Fiala will be a no go for any of our top prospects

If you guys insist on a Fiala trade, you can pick freely from any 24+ years player in any combination

 

[Kurrilino]

I would love for you to explain how Iafallo = Kaprizov in this comparison. Even with the understanding that Boldy is a step down from Byfield, Iafallo is a giant leap down from Kaprizov... Not to mention he is 28 while Kaprizov is 24.

Iafallo has 10 goals Kaprizov has 12
That's closer than the step down from Byfield to Boldy

 

[verbalkint47]

if we are for sure selling with no attempt to resign, i do not see how this is not one of if not the best offer we can expect for Fiala alone.

Think it would be a good deal for both teams (assuming Fiala re-signs at a relatively reasonable rate).

I think Vilardi can be an effective playmaking center in a sheltered, offensive role.

Fiala would be great next to Byfield. What better way to help a young blue chip center prospect than to put a dynamic winger next to him.

 

[GuerinUp]

Iafallo has 10 goals Kaprizov has 12
That's closer than the step down from Byfield to Boldy

kaprizov has 37 more points in one less game the last 2 seasons....

the more you talk the less credible you get...

lafallo couldnt hold kaprizovs jock

 

[Eggtimer]

Anythig elsebesides Holtz of interest from the Devils ? Foote plus a pick ? Or a D plus pick ? Bahl Okhotyuk plus pick ?

 

[Drewcifer]

I think Minnesota's goal in trading Fiala, and also Greenway if they can't resign him, should be to trade up as high in the draft as possible to draft a difference maker who will be ready in a few years. Part of the problem with that is that neither Fiala or Greenway are on contracts that would be useful to a team that is bad right now. So ideally the Wild should trade Fiala for prospects or picks that could be packaged with the Wild's first and whatever they get for Greenway to move as high up in the draft as possible. Ideally to get a high end defenseman or center. That, combined with current prospects and players signed long term would put them in a very strong position when they came out of cap hell.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Think it would be a good deal for both teams (assuming Fiala re-signs at a relatively reasonable rate).

I think Vilardi can be an effective playmaking center in a sheltered, offensive role.

Fiala would be great next to Byfield. What better way to help a young blue chip center prospect than to put a dynamic winger next to him.

couldnt agree more, a right handed more offensively inclined center is what we are wanting and needing so i dont see how acquiring him from a spot of somewhat depth would be negative. we dont have anyone as electric as Fiala to replace him yet but that is minor details.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

I think Minnesota's goal in trading Fiala, and also Greenway if they can't resign him, should be to trade up as high in the draft as possible to draft a difference maker who will be ready in a few years. Part of the problem with that is that neither Fiala or Greenway are on contracts that would be useful to a team that is bad right now. So ideally the Wild should trade Fiala for prospects or picks that could be packaged with the Wild's first and whatever they get for Greenway to move as high up in the draft as possible. Ideally to get a high end defenseman or center. That, combined with current prospects and players signed long term would put them in a very strong position when they came out of cap hell.

i dont think the player required to trade up into the top 5 of any draft is a player any team would trade. trading up in the draft is not going to be as exciting if fiala and greenway are our bargaining chips.

 

[Drewcifer]

If somebody slips who we think is good they might get us to 7 or 8. Bad teams often do dumb things. It is why they are bad teams.