Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[volnoir]

well of course I do what he says, he's like a brother to me, I trust him

Can you link this quote? I never heard that one before.

 

[Beef Invictus]

There's a difference between strategy and tactics. Fletcher didn't set strategy, he wasn't very good at tactics.

Considering his strategy was deeply similar to the dumbass stuff he did in Minnesota, safe to say he did a ton to set strategy. That his pre-cap mentality matches the Flyers' own is why they hired him.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Can you link this quote? I never heard that one before.

I'll see if I can find it again

 

[FlyerNutter]

Not going anywhere without star level talent to offset a crack head scouting, development, and coaching staff.

Trades, FA, or a 5th, and 7th overall pick is not a viable path to rebuild for this team. They don’t have the competence in any department to make such a strategy realistic.

They need a Matthews or McDavid to overcome the organizational deficiencies. The ceiling here is not that of an upper echelon club, it’s a playoff bubble team hoping to win a round on the back of Hart, and “effort”.

That they continue to try these half measured attempts, and lazy retools is so strange. Typical Flyer arrogance.

Maybe in another 7 years they will get it when enough people have died off. Here’s to hoping.

 

[Beef Invictus]

In the meantime, here's this terrible read:

Clarke helped convince Holmgren that Fletcher was right choice

New GM said he plans to give coach Dave Hakstol a chance to show he can get Flyers to win

www.phillyburbs.com

 

[Flyerfan4life]

In the meantime, here's this terrible read:

Clarke helped convince Holmgren that Fletcher was right choice

New GM said he plans to give coach Dave Hakstol a chance to show he can get Flyers to win

www.phillyburbs.com

the incest literaly knows no bounds with this Org.

they should change the team name to "Oldboisclub4life or GTFO"

 

[Tarpongg]

I'll see if I can find it again

100% there is an old article out there which talks about how close Homer and Clarkie are, they’re like brothers, their families are close, and Homer would run all tough decisions through Clarkie

 

[Embiid]

In the meantime, here's this terrible read:

Clarke helped convince Holmgren that Fletcher was right choice

New GM said he plans to give coach Dave Hakstol a chance to show he can get Flyers to win

www.phillyburbs.com

I posted this way back too...lol

Quivering lies through those fake choppers...

 

[Beef Invictus]

100% there is an old article out there which talks about how close Homer and Clarkie are, they’re like brothers, their families are close, and Homer would run all tough decisions through Clarkie

I think there's actually more than one. I remember the original which really stuck with me as the team began behaving less like it had been, and more like what you'd expect Clarke to do. And I'm positive there's a more recent one affirming and defending the decisions to hire Fletcher.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

In the meantime, here's this terrible read:

Clarke helped convince Holmgren that Fletcher was right choice

New GM said he plans to give coach Dave Hakstol a chance to show he can get Flyers to win

www.phillyburbs.com

This is the least shocking thing I have read today

 

[blackjackmulligan]

In the meantime, here's this terrible read:

Clarke helped convince Holmgren that Fletcher was right choice

New GM said he plans to give coach Dave Hakstol a chance to show he can get Flyers to win

www.phillyburbs.com

title of the article seems misleading. How did he convince him?

 

[Beef Invictus]

title of the article seems misleading. How did he convince him?

It's right in there if you read it.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It's right in there if you read it.

dont see anything i nthere where he convinced him, was asked his opinion spoke highly of him is all I see. what am i missing?

 

[Beef Invictus]

dont see anything i nthere where he convinced him, was asked his opinion spoke highly of him is all I see. what am i missing?

Read harder.

There's no way you aren't being deliberately obtuse

 

[Embiid]

Even in the video I posted he pretty much says how he sold Holmgren on Fletcher....he made a case for him and said it was an easy decision for Holmgren. Yeah I guess so when it only took you a week or less to hire the dude...or should I say dud..

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Read harder.

There's no way you aren't being deliberately obtuse

as i said misleading title. not one thing in there is stated clark did to "Convince" holmgren to hire him. below in bold is all i can find in that piece

“He loves the Flyers, that’s all he cares about. He spoke well of him (Fletcher). You could probably quiz a hundred hockey people and you can’t find one bad word about Chuck. You heard him talk today, he’s smart, he’s got a good way about himself.’’

 

[Beef Invictus]

Deliberately obtuse. Can stop wasting time, then.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

imagine with all the video/audio/ written evidence there are still people that think the oldbois club directing the franchise isnt a thing..

 

[Deadpool8812]

Fletcher is not smart in the hockey world. He's failed everywhere he's been

 

[deadhead]

Fletcher is not smart in the hockey world. He's failed everywhere he's been

He didn't "fail" in Minnesota, 6 straight playoff appearances, 3 seasons of 100+ points, Got to the 2nd rd twice, once more than Dubas.
Couldn't get over the hump, and his attempts to do so through TDL trades backfired.
But that's more success than the "average" GM.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He didn't "fail" in Minnesota, 6 straight playoff appearances, 3 seasons of 100+ points, Got to the 2nd rd twice, once more than Dubas.
Couldn't get over the hump, and his attempts to do so through TDL trades backfired.
But that's more success than the "average" GM.

He failed in Minnesota and they're years away from recovering from what he did.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

He didn't "fail" in Minnesota, 6 straight playoff appearances, 3 seasons of 100+ points, Got to the 2nd rd twice, once more than Dubas.
Couldn't get over the hump, and his attempts to do so through TDL trades backfired.
But that's more success than the "average" GM.

So he failed

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Deliberately obtuse. Can stop wasting time, then.

yes stop wasting time. it was a misleading title. please educate me what in the piece shows Clarke convincing Holmgren to hire fletcher.

 

[Embiid]

Plausible deniability ...oldest legal trickery.

 

[Curufinwe]

How Bob Clarke Became ‘first Boss, a Longtime Mentor' for Chuck Fletcher

Bob Clarke had faith in Chuck Fletcher back in 1993 for the same reasons the Flyers are now trusting the new GM to bring the organization out of its stagnant state. By Jordan Hall

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Fletcher and Clarke spoke to each other Tuesday night before the official commencement of this new era in Flyers hockey.

"When we talked, I said, 'Thanks for coming and I think you'll do a great job with us,'" Clarke, the Flyers' senior vice president, said. "And the Flyers need him. I thanked him and of course he was calling to thank me for supporting him."

The Flyers need Fletcher after firing Hextall last week following four-plus years under his guidance as GM. Upper management is yearning to compete at the top level again, where the Flyers haven't been in sometime, or at least weren't getting there quickly enough. They've been without a playoff series victory since 2012 and have missed the postseason three of the last six years.

Clarke has faith that Fletcher can put the Flyers back in that winning echelon of teams. Comcast Spectacor chairman and CEO Dave Scott was attracted by Fletcher's "deep experience" along with his "easy, open management style, leadership style."

It's what Clarke saw in Fletcher during 1993, the characteristics he loved about Cliff Fletcher as a GM.