Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[Petr Svoboda Mullet]

To be fair, they also fired a bunch of player development guys (O’Connell, Riley and Samuelson).

 

[ajgoal]

To be fair, they also fired a bunch of player development guys (O’Connell, Riley and Samuelson).

And you're right, that's not a bad thing. It's the other half of the equation that's giving folks the "same old" vibe.

 

[Petr Svoboda Mullet]

And you're right, that's not a bad thing. It's the other half of the equation that's giving folks the "same old" vibe.

Which is fair and understandable. Let’s see who they hire underneath the guys that got promoted.

 

[deadhead]

As far as personnel, I'd expect outside hires after the draft and free agency, when employment contracts expire, new GMs bring in their own people, and people Briere and Jones covet become available.

In the same fashion, pre-draft trades, the draft and free agency will tell us more than words.

They're not going to "tank," they are going to make trades to add draft picks and prospects. Trade enough veteran starters, and either you finish close to the bottom or you play better due to prospects stepping up, works either way.

They may wait on some moves, figuring they might get a better return in September after teams evaluate their own players - depends on what they're offered in June.

They'll probably add some veteran FAs on short-term deals since they lack depth and don't want to rush their prospect pool.
So don't freak out if they sign a 30 year old veteran to a 1 year deal, or 26 year old to a low cost 2 year deal.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

As far as personnel, I'd expect outside hires after the draft and free agency, when employment contracts expire, new GMs bring in their own people, and people Briere and Jones covet become available.

In the same fashion, pre-draft trades, the draft and free agency will tell us more than words.

They're not going to "tank," they are going to make trades to add draft picks and prospects. Trade enough veteran starters, and either you finish close to the bottom or you play better due to prospects stepping up, works either way.

They may wait on some moves, figuring they might get a better return in September after teams evaluate their own players - depends on what they're offered in June.

They'll probably add some veteran FAs on short-term deals since they lack depth and don't want to rush their prospect pool.
So don't freak out if they sign a 30 year old veteran to a 1 year deal, or 26 year old to a low cost 2 year deal.

if they don't does that signify they are not rebuilding? Excluding Hayes and tony D, who do you think the President/GM/ Coach wants to subtract?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Which is fair and understandable. Let’s see who they hire underneath the guys that got promoted.

This is what I anticipate. I'm expecting more recently retired Flyers. Prove me wrong for once, team.

 

[Beef Invictus]

As far as personnel, I'd expect outside hires after the draft and free agency, when employment contracts expire, new GMs bring in their own people, and people Briere and Jones covet become available.

In the same fashion, pre-draft trades, the draft and free agency will tell us more than words.

They're not going to "tank," they are going to make trades to add draft picks and prospects. Trade enough veteran starters, and either you finish close to the bottom or you play better due to prospects stepping up, works either way.

They may wait on some moves, figuring they might get a better return in September after teams evaluate their own players - depends on what they're offered in June.

They'll probably add some veteran FAs on short-term deals since they lack depth and don't want to rush their prospect pool.
So don't freak out if they sign a 30 year old veteran to a 1 year deal, or 26 year old to a low cost 2 year deal.

I look forward to you vigorously defending the team doing the opposite of what you think is best. An annual tradition.

 

[deadhead]

if they don't does that signify they are not rebuilding? Excluding Hayes and tony D, who do you think the President/GM/ Coach wants to subtract?

Don't know. Comes down to both who they think isn't part of the future and what they're offered.
They don't have to rush to move players, they can wait if the price isn't right.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Don't know. Comes down to both who they think isn't part of the future and what they're offered.
They don't have to rush to move players, they can wait if the price isn't right.

don't straddle the fence, give some names who you think they want to subtract.

Sooner they move on from this losing core the better. Sometimes you are just better off cutting bait even if the offer isn't what you expect.

 

[Rebels57]

What a new era. Promotions for everyone!

They clearly earned it!

 

[VladDrag]

lol f*** off

Quite literally the worst part of the organization for the last 10 years and everyone gets a promotion. How is this any different than before Briere and Jones?

..And, my favorite part of this is the fact that they released it on a Friday, only to twitter. It's not on Instagram where they get torched in the comment section by the seemingly younger fans...

 

[macleish1974]

One Virginian to another: “ what’s all this fuss goin’ about? Ain’t gonna amount to much. Just a bunch of marchin’ and talkin‘ all it is”

~ 3pm July 3rd, 1863, little crossroads town in Pennsylvania

Ditto Flyers..170 years less a month later……..

 

[deadhead]

don't straddle the fence, give some names who you think they want to subtract.

Sooner they move on from this losing core the better. Sometimes you are just better off cutting bait even if the offer isn't what you expect.

Hayes and Provorov.
They like Laughton, but at 29 he doesn't fit a rebuild timeline.
Allison is a matter of what they're offered, he's 26 with durability issues, so he's neither a keeper or a priority to move.
Laczynski won't bring anything.
Deslauriers will be moved next summer with 2 yrs left and no NMC, they like him on a young team as a tone setter as well as an enforcer.

TDA is a matter of cost. They don't want to pay to move him.
Risto and Sanheim are probably contract issues, they'd like to build their value up before trying to move them.
Sandstrom is blocking Ersson.

TK and Hart are more a matter of "make me an offer I can't refuse."

They've already moved on from MacEwen, Brown, Braun, with JVR, Bellows and Lemieux soon to follow.

So odds are by July, over half of last year's roster will be gone.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Hayes and Provorov.
They like Laughton, but at 29 he doesn't fit a rebuild timeline.
Allison is a matter of what they're offered, he's 26 with durability issues, so he's neither a keeper or a priority to move.
Laczynski won't bring anything.
Deslauriers will be moved next summer with 2 yrs left and no NMC, they like him on a young team as a tone setter as well as an enforcer.

TDA is a matter of cost. They don't want to pay to move him.
Risto and Sanheim are probably contract issues, they'd like to build their value up before trying to move them.
Sandstrom is blocking Ersson.

TK and Hart are more a matter of "make me an offer I can't refuse."

They've already moved on from MacEwen, Brown, Braun, with JVR, Bellows and Lemieux soon to follow.

So odds are by July, over half of last year's roster will be gone.

I asked you exclude Hayes and tony D.
Correct on Laughton though he will not be moved
Allison who cares really he is cheap so can see what he has to offer.
You have more faith in a team wanting a declining ND for 2 years. I do not. Enforcer lol.

Felix isnt blocking anyone. come on. Risto and Sanheim are unmovable more than likely at this time. Of the 2 who do you think is easier to move right now?

TK and Hart do not need an offer you cant refuse to move them imo. You move them in a good deal.

Your bold is funny. Wow they moved on from slop. Though the question was who does the coach want to subtract to help with his culture and room....

 

[Tripod]

They clearly earned it!

Can't argue with the results.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Oh look, more promotions

Failing upwards. Same as it ever was

 

[renberg]

Hayes and Provorov.
They like Laughton, but at 29 he doesn't fit a rebuild timeline.
Allison is a matter of what they're offered, he's 26 with durability issues, so he's neither a keeper or a priority to move.
Laczynski won't bring anything.
Deslauriers will be moved next summer with 2 yrs left and no NMC, they like him on a young team as a tone setter as well as an enforcer.

TDA is a matter of cost. They don't want to pay to move him.
Risto and Sanheim are probably contract issues, they'd like to build their value up before trying to move them.
Sandstrom is blocking Ersson.

TK and Hart are more a matter of "make me an offer I can't refuse."

They've already moved on from MacEwen, Brown, Braun, with JVR, Bellows and Lemieux soon to follow.

So odds are by July, over half of last year's roster will be gone.

No doubt Hayes and Provorov are goners.
After that a lot depends on how creative DB can get. Most clubs have a player or two that they want to shed and hope that the refuse that they pick up will turn it around in a new environment. TDA fits here and would only be a one year challenge for the club that acquires him.
If DB wants top draft choices, things could be more difficult than if he takes on younger players from other teams that might not have lived up to expectations such as Tippett with Florida.
Then there is the type of "my trash for your garbage" type of deals that go down. (Would CBJ take Risto in exchange for Gudbranson?) Briere isn't under any pressure to get rid of anyone so he should be able to avoid getting ripped off with the deals that he makes.
Just a hunch but I think that Hart is out of here.

 

[Deadpool8812]

I don't understand why people think it's a guarantee that Hayes and Provorov are gone.

This is the Flyers, so people need to lower their expectations and remember we are usually left disappointed

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Nothing Briere has done so far, instills any microscopic measure of confidence or demonstration of competence.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Nothing Briere has done so far, instills any microscopic measure of confidence or demonstration of competence.

Firing 3 guys and promoting their underlings doesn't seem competent? Do you even Flyer?

 

[trostol]

only two acceptable former flyers i would like to see...Brindy and Kimmo...everyone else...go away

and we are never gonna get Brindy most likely

 

[Kelmitchell2]

only two acceptable former flyers i would like to see...Brindy and Kimmo...everyone else...go away

and we are never gonna get Brindy most likely

From what I've seen and heard, alot of organizations are very high on gagne's coaching (not for a hc)

 

[deadhead]

only two acceptable former flyers i would like to see...Brindy and Kimmo...everyone else...go away

and we are never gonna get Brindy most likely

Aren't Kimmo and Briere close?

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

Nothing Briere has done so far, instills any microscopic measure of confidence or demonstration of competence.

What exactly are you expecting?

 

[Tarpongg]

Quite literally the worst part of the organization for the last 10 years and everyone gets a promotion. How is this any different than before Briere and Jones?

..And, my favorite part of this is the fact that they released it on a Friday, only to twitter. It's not on Instagram where they get torched in the comment section by the seemingly younger fans...

The funny part is, Jonesy has been doing the media tour, telling everyone what he brings to the job is contacts. He knows everyone from coaches to players to GM’s and agents. So, first opportunity to change things, do we get introspection, innovation, new blood? Nope, same old…