Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[Flyerfan4life]

No moves have been made to address the player developmental staff, the medical team or the assistant GM’s or coaching staff.

no moves of any import have been made..

jones is a nothing burger.. the oldbois club/coach and ALL support staff remain.


hell even Briere is nothing more then hopium until proven otherwise.

the fact he was behind the shittruck signing is a massive red flag...in a time when we cant have any more...

guess we'll see were he falls this summer.

Take Lahoe

whats the soup of the day ?

 

[deadhead]

No moves have been made to address the player developmental staff, the medical team or the assistant GM’s or coaching staff.

The medical team was dealt with last year, the rest probably has to wait until the season end when contracts expire.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The medical team was dealt with last year, the rest probably has to wait until the season end when contracts expire.

It was dealt with by incompetent people.

 

[ponder719]

The medical team was dealt with last year, the rest probably has to wait until the season end when contracts expire.

It was addressed. Whether the problem was dealt with or not, only future results will bear out.

 

[Curufinwe]

I mean, it's possible 8 other Eastern Conference teams come down with an epidemic of arm-fall-offitis, but I don't think it's "far from zero."

The only thing standing in the way of Tortorella's Philadelphia Dinos are the 8 Eastern playoff teams where the 8th seed the Cup Finals, plus Washington, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa and NYI.

Easy peasy.

It was addressed. Whether the problem was dealt with or not, only future results will bear out.

There will be multiple major injuries every season no matter who the medical people are. Cause it's the NHL.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

The Dec 7 line is a complete myth.

"A day which will live in infamy ..."

A day that will live in infamy.

Son of a bitch.

 

[deadhead]

Mea culpa. Didn't Google it.

 

[Curufinwe]

These are Cates' numbers prior to December 7th, just in case anyone was falling for the nonsense that he didn't play center all season.

467:11 TOI (2nd of all forwards)
17:59 TOI/GP (4th)

346:30 ES TOI (3rd)
13:04 ES TOI/GP (6th)

Faceoffs
Hayes 335
Laughton 299
Cates 292
Frost 228

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Hayes was moved to the wing long before December 7th

‘We’ve got more work to do’: Flyers coach John Tortorella is still seeking more from Kevin Hayes

Hayes will move to the wing starting Monday against the Calgary Flames.

www.inquirer.com

 

[Beef Invictus]

These are Cates' numbers prior to December 7th, just in case anyone was falling for the nonsense that he didn't play center all season.

467:11 TOI (2nd of all forwards)
17:59 TOI/GP (4th)

346:30 ES TOI (3rd)
13:04 ES TOI/GP (6th)

Faceoffs
Hayes 335
Laughton 299
Cates 292
Frost 228

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

Hayes was moved to the wing long before December 7th

‘We’ve got more work to do’: Flyers coach John Tortorella is still seeking more from Kevin Hayes

Hayes will move to the wing starting Monday against the Calgary Flames.

www.inquirer.com

It's not hard to head back through the GDTs to see the lineups. Starting in Game 2, every lineup used the prior game as a base with tweaks based on reporting from practice and skates.

 

[BernieParent]

It's not hard to head back through the GDTs to see the lineups. Starting in Game 2, every lineup used the prior game as a base with tweaks based on reporting from practice and skates.

Who the heck here had time to waste reading the ...

Oh, I mean, of course we all remember this essential information from the GDTs!

 

[blackjackmulligan]

The medical team was dealt with last year, the rest probably has to wait until the season end when contracts expire.

3) There are rumblings that Briere and new president of hockey operations Keith Jones are planning to make several changes this offseason in the hockey ops side; some of which may have already gone down but have not yet been publicly announced.

It's been rumored but NOT yet officially confirmed that Alyn McCauley's player personnel director role will be expanded this summer. Phantoms assistant coach Riley Armstrong (who already worked under Briere before with the ECHL's Maine Mariners) may be shifting to a prominent player development staff role. Additionally, after 29 straight years of working in the management side of NHL hockey and 33 consecutive years in coaching and then in management, 67-year-old Mike O'Connell may be retiring from his role as the organization's senior advisor on player development.

HockeyBuzz.com - Bill Meltzer - Quick Hits: Worlds, Briere, Hockey Ops, TIFH

www.hockeybuzz.com

These are Cates' numbers prior to December 7th, just in case anyone was falling for the nonsense that he didn't play center all season.

467:11 TOI (2nd of all forwards)
17:59 TOI/GP (4th)

346:30 ES TOI (3rd)
13:04 ES TOI/GP (6th)

Faceoffs
Hayes 335
Laughton 299
Cates 292
Frost 228

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

Hayes was moved to the wing long before December 7th

‘We’ve got more work to do’: Flyers coach John Tortorella is still seeking more from Kevin Hayes

Hayes will move to the wing starting Monday against the Calgary Flames.

www.inquirer.com

what a great 6th rd pick Cates ha turned out to be. Exceeding expectations.

 

[renberg]

My view is that the 2022-23 season was an extended tryout for the players. We don't know who is going to be here in the fall; either coming or going. Some of the forwards still don't have their positions cemented as to whether they are going to continue as a center or wing, such as Cates, and if they are going to be on the wing, which side? The same goes on the blue line. Playing guys on their off hand is not the best use of their talent but it may continue. What's going on in goal is still up for grabs. Hart/Sandstrom again? Doubtful. Hart/Ersson? Could be. Maybe even Ersson/Sandstrom. Lots TBD.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

My view is that the 2022-23 season was an extended tryout for the players. We don't know who is going to be here in the fall; either coming or going. Some of the forwards still don't have their positions cemented as to whether they are going to continue as a center or wing, such as Cates, and if they are going to be on the wing, which side? The same goes on the blue line. Playing guys on their off hand is not the best use of their talent but it may continue. What's going on in goal is still up for grabs. Hart/Sandstrom again? Doubtful. Hart/Ersson? Could be. Maybe even Ersson/Sandstrom. Lots TBD.

My take is they do not trade anyone of substance. They return the losing core. Then Jones and Briere get in front of the podium come September tell everyone this is Torts 2nd year. The player snow all know what to expect and a bunch of other garbage. They want to see what progress was made.

As far as goal not up for grabs form where I sit. Hart/Sammy. It is clear Torts does not like or trust Felix.

Cates is a center and will always be under torts imo. The fact they have not hired a PP guy to help is comical to me.

 

[renberg]

My take is they do not trade anyone of substance. They return the losing core. Then Jones and Briere get in front of the podium come September tell everyone this is Torts 2nd year. The player snow all know what to expect and a bunch of other garbage. They want to see what progress was made.

As far as goal not up for grabs form where I sit. Hart/Sammy. It is clear Torts does not like or trust Felix.

Cates is a center and will always be under torts imo. The fact they have not hired a PP guy to help is comical to me.

Hayes and Provorov are for sure goners. It wouldn't surprise me if TDA were out of here either by trade or cut outright; not need to carry him on the books on a buyout. Just eat his deal and move on. TDA is what he is and Tortorella is the same. The two don't mix. Who needs the stink of that squabble in the locker room?
Laughton should be gone if a decent offer is made for him. 2 and a 3? Just a feeling that Hart is out of here if he can convince the acquiring team that he is legally clean. I agree that Torts doesn't see Sandstorm as more than a +/-12 game back up but I also don't think that he cares for Hart for some reasons(s). All in all these moves would be the major shakeup which this roster needs.
As for Cates, he's best on the wing and has shown that in his past. This year he did center ice out of necessity. After this season, center ice will be Couturier, Frost, Gauthier/Desnoyers. Moving out Cates to wing is best for his long term production. His poor face-off rate shows that center is not his position.
It wouldn't surprise me if the #7 choice was Benson or Dvorsky, that they made the club out of camp. Benson's speed and tenacity could be useful on this club. Dvorsky has already played in an adult league and shown good defensive responsibility.

 

[Curufinwe]

It seems clear that Hayes and Provy are done in Philly.

 

[Rebels57]

Hayes and Provorov are for sure goners. It wouldn't surprise me if TDA were out of here either by trade or cut outright; not need to carry him on the books on a buyout. Just eat his deal and move on. TDA is what he is and Tortorella is the same. The two don't mix. Who needs the stink of that squabble in the locker room?
Laughton should be gone if a decent offer is made for him. 2 and a 3? Just a feeling that Hart is out of here if he can convince the acquiring team that he is legally clean. I agree that Torts doesn't see Sandstorm as more than a +/-12 game back up but I also don't think that he cares for Hart for some reasons(s). All in all these moves would be the major shakeup which this roster needs.
As for Cates, he's best on the wing and has shown that in his past. This year he did center ice out of necessity. After this season, center ice will be Couturier, Frost, Gauthier/Desnoyers. Moving out Cates to wing is best for his long term production. His poor face-off rate shows that center is not his position.
It wouldn't surprise me if the #7 choice was Benson or Dvorsky, that they made the club out of camp. Benson's speed and tenacity could be useful on this club. Dvorsky has already played in an adult league and shown good defensive responsibility.

You think an 18 year old is going to make John Tortorella's hockey team?

He's probably the only coach in the NHL that would actually give starting Bedard in the NHL a second thought.

 

[Beef Invictus]

You think an 18 year old is going to make John Tortorella's hockey team?

He's probably the only coach in the NHL that would actually give starting Bedard in the NHL a second thought.

The youngest age he's ever coached in the NHL is 19. Most of that came every now and then, until Columbus, when he pretty much always had a 19 year old. He was at odds with Jarmo. He famously hates youth. Not hard to make a valid guess that having to play too much youth every year was grinding his gears.

 

[deadhead]

You think an 18 year old is going to make John Tortorella's hockey team?

He's probably the only coach in the NHL that would actually give starting Bedard in the NHL a second thought.

Werenski started for him at 19. So did Dubois.
It's rare for any player to start in his draft year, usually just a couple at the top of the draft.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

The youngest age he's ever coached in the NHL is 19. Most of that came every now and then, until Columbus, when he pretty much always had a 19 year old. He was at odds with Jarmo. He famously hates youth. Not hard to make a valid guess that having to play too much youth every year was grinding his gears.

He spent a very long time, with a very long-winded answer, saying the exact opposite during his cleanout day interview. So, either he gave a long-winded lie, or this is another false narrative. I'm going with the latter.

You think an 18 year old is going to make John Tortorella's hockey team?

He's probably the only coach in the NHL that would actually give starting Bedard in the NHL a second thought.

I think it's relatively rare for an 18 year-old to make ANY NHL roster.

 

[Rebels57]

He spent a very long time, with a very long-winded answer, saying the exact opposite during his cleanout day interview. So, either he gave a long-winded lie, or this is another false narrative. I'm going with the latter.


I think it's relatively rare for an 18 year-old to make ANY NHL roster.

Imagine believing anything John Tortorella, who lies every time he opens his mouth to the media, has to say.

 

[Curufinwe]

No point wasting a year of the ELC for a kid like Benson on this team with this coach.

 

[Starat327]

Imagine believing anything John Tortorella, who lies every time he opens his mouth to the media, has to say.

Why wouldnt the people already on their knees, uhhhh, worshipping him, stop believeing his lies now?

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Hayes and Provorov are for sure goners. It wouldn't surprise me if TDA were out of here either by trade or cut outright; not need to carry him on the books on a buyout. Just eat his deal and move on. TDA is what he is and Tortorella is the same. The two don't mix. Who needs the stink of that squabble in the locker room?
Laughton should be gone if a decent offer is made for him. 2 and a 3? Just a feeling that Hart is out of here if he can convince the acquiring team that he is legally clean. I agree that Torts doesn't see Sandstorm as more than a +/-12 game back up but I also don't think that he cares for Hart for some reasons(s). All in all these moves would be the major shakeup which this roster needs.
As for Cates, he's best on the wing and has shown that in his past. This year he did center ice out of necessity. After this season, center ice will be Couturier, Frost, Gauthier/Desnoyers. Moving out Cates to wing is best for his long term production. His poor face-off rate shows that center is not his position.
It wouldn't surprise me if the #7 choice was Benson or Dvorsky, that they made the club out of camp. Benson's speed and tenacity could be useful on this club. Dvorsky has already played in an adult league and shown good defensive responsibility.

We disagree. Ivan is not a clear goner at all. Only if he asks and he hasnt as of yet. Trading Hayes and Tony D are not players of substance.

I will believe it when I see it in terms of TK Laughton Ivan Hart are moved. Danyn can talk all he wants, he likes all 4 and really would rather keep them. Hopefully that will or has changed. That isnt even taking into consideration the coaches say!!!

Cates had a small sample size on the wing so it is speculative to say he is best there; not saying he isnt by the way. He was thrust into learning at a new spot at the NHL level. Exceeded expectations. Willing to give him another year to see what if any improvement is made.

Not sol d on Desynoyers making the team we shall see.

As far as this years pick on the team, don't see it though if given an opportunity not unrealistic. I rather they not make the team

It seems clear that Hayes and Provy are done in Philly.

how does it seem clear Ivan is gone?

 

[BernieParent]

It seems clear that Hayes and Provy are done in Philly.

I hope it isn't as cut and dried as this. We just got through a GM whose every move was telegraphed in neon letters, so he never gave himself a chance to win a transaction. If Briere is hobbled by orders to get rid of them, a Hayes deal risks losing assets and cap space and the return on Provorov may be seriously underwhelming to reasonable expectations that he could bring back at least one high-value piece.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

There are lots of rumors that Provorov wants out. If they can get a first for him in this draft, he'll be gone.