Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

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JMO but I don’t believe that Hart will be much more than an average goaltender. His inconsistency is bothersome. Perhaps it’s his inexperience or the lousy defense that has been in front of him. However he doesn’t seem to be able to elevate his game at critical moments in the game the way that elite goalies can.
The bar is so low and the fans so desperate in Philly for a top level goalie that as soon as one flashes a few good games, the response is that they think that they have him. I just don’t see Hart as ever being in the top echelon of goalies in the game.
 

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I have listened to every Keith, Dan, Danny interview the last week....

I don't know if he'll be available, but they are going to offer Matthews a blank check. He fits that "big splash" they are talking about.
 

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I have listened to every Keith, Dan, Danny interview the last week....

I don't know if he'll be available, but they are going to offer Matthews a blank check. He fits that "big splash" they are talking about.
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I have listened to every Keith, Dan, Danny interview the last week....

I don't know if he'll be available, but they are going to offer Matthews a blank check. He fits that "big splash" they are talking about.
Tortorella would veto Matthews.
 

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I have listened to every Keith, Dan, Danny interview the last week....

I don't know if he'll be available, but they are going to offer Matthews a blank check. He fits that "big splash" they are talking about.
I think he's going to LA. Kopitar will be coming off the books and their rebuild will be ready for him. I see him laughing at the Flyers who will still be 2-4 years away.
 

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Briere already said they're not looking at big money FAs for a few years.
Now if Holmgren was running the show . . .

This is why committing to a multi-year rebuild is so important, no need for a big splash when you're marketing a rebuild and asking fans for patience.
 
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JMO but I don’t believe that Hart will be much more than an average goaltender. His inconsistency is bothersome. Perhaps it’s his inexperience or the lousy defense that has been in front of him. However he doesn’t seem to be able to elevate his game at critical moments in the game the way that elite goalies can.
The bar is so low and the fans so desperate in Philly for a top level goalie that as soon as one flashes a few good games, the response is that they think that they have him. I just don’t see Hart as ever being in the top echelon of goalies in the game.
I guess you missed the 2020 playoffs. No, he is not able to elevate his game enough to cover for the horrible roster that Fletcher and co. have assembled for 62 games. But he's already proven that if he has a competent team around him that he can be elite. If he goes to a team that doesn't bleed scoring chances left and right, he will find his groove. Just look at this season. He was an elite goaltender for his first 20 or so games but he couldn't bail the team out forever. You could put Oettinger or any other goalie in the NHL in net for the Flyers currently and they would also look inconsistent with the trash on the ice in front of them.
 

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Flyers were 16th in xGA/60 at ES, 26th on the PK. Florida was worse (22nd, 16th)
So while mediocre, the Flyers weren't terrible on defense.

Carolina was 1st and 6th - maybe there is a "Flyer's way?"
 
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Briere already said they're not looking at big money FAs for a few years.
Now if Holmgren was running the show . . .

This is why committing to a multi-year rebuild is so important, no need for a big splash when you're marketing a rebuild and asking fans for patience.
im thinking they will probably sign some big names when they had cap space in a few years. but just not overpaying them like the hurricanes because at least they dont perform in the playoffs, you can get out of them easily and not be stuck with them like the maple leafs.
 

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Good team was good. Mediocre team was mediocre.

More at 11.

P.S. Now do xGF/60. Be more disingenuous, you can’t. The Panthers were 1st 5 on 5 and the Hurricanes were 3rd.

Gee, a team that is good at both is one of the league’s best teams and a team that is good at one of them is an average team.

Now let’s do the Flyers who are poor at both!

Great success. Much praise!
 
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Good team was good. Mediocre team was mediocre.

More at 11.

P.S. Now do xGF/60. Be more disingenuous, you can’t. The Panthers were 1st 5 on 5 and the Hurricanes were 3rd.

Gee, a team that is good at both is one of the league’s best teams and a team that is good at one of them is an average team.

Now let’s do the Flyers who are poor at both!

Great success. Much praise!
Maybe you should read the thread before commenting.
It was about Hart playing behind a lousy defense, xGA/60 is a crude proxy for how well a team is playing in front of a goalie.

Just because you're obsessed with offense . . . sorry that NJ, Edmonton and Toronto couldn't advance with all their skilled playmakers. :eek3:
 

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Maybe you should read the thread before commenting.
It was about Hart playing behind a lousy defense, xGA/60 is a crude proxy for how well a team is playing in front of a goalie.

Just because you're obsessed with offense . . . sorry that NJ, Edmonton and Toronto couldn't advance with all their skilled playmakers. :eek3:
The Flyers shouldn't be compared to those teams in any context.

Weird flex about the offense thing since Florida (1st in NHL) and Carolina (3rd) had a higher xGF/60 than NJ (4th) and Toronto (5th). Weird that they were the last four teams in the Eastern Conference playoffs. I'm sure that's completely coincidental.

I'm not an economist but I don't think that four teams can advance to a round in the playoffs where only two teams remain.
 

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I guess you missed the 2020.
Herein is part of the problem. He won one series in the funkiest of PO situations ever for the NHL and then lost to the Isles. Not overly impressive. As I said before the bar for goalie play in Philly is low. Is Hart better than Neuvirth, Stolarz, bad Mason and the others? Sure but he's not in the upper tiers for goalie play and doesn't look like he will be.
SSS but Ersson looked as good, if not better, this season behind the same lousy defense. If you want to hang on to Hart and give him a bigger contract than this one when it runs out, have at it. I'm not so sure that I would. I'd be open to moving him out if a quality offer came across the table.
 

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I know I can't see the messages, but I legit don't get what the point is to keep up with this stupid shit. At what point do we just take a step back that the person is just trying to be as difficult as possible, regardless of the topic, just so they can have an argument, which feeds into them doing it more? It's basically thread derailment each and every time and should be ignored or blocked.
 
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Oh weird, Tortorella's team is far better at defending than they are at scoring? I was told that isn't how he works. Weird how it worked out that way. And how it's worked out that way repeatedly across multiple teams.
 
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I know I can't see the messages, but I legit don't get what the point is to keep up with this stupid shit. At what point do we just take a step back that the person is just trying to be as difficult as possible, regardless of the topic, just so they can have an argument, which feeds into them doing it more? It's basically thread derailment each and every time and should be ignored or blocked.
Yeah I don't understand this either. He dominates every thread with his bad faith arguments. And even him you have him on ignore like I do, the replies to his nonsense still derail everything. Can't people just ignore until he goes away?
 

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Yeah I don't understand this either. He dominates every thread with his bad faith arguments. And even him you have him on ignore like I do, the replies to his nonsense still derail everything. Can't people just ignore until he goes away?
I think if some of his more obvious troll posts got the bans they deserved, he would have stopped being so ridiculous a while ago.
 

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I know I can't see the messages, but I legit don't get what the point is to keep up with this stupid shit. At what point do we just take a step back that the person is just trying to be as difficult as possible, regardless of the topic, just so they can have an argument, which feeds into them doing it more? It's basically thread derailment each and every time and should be ignored or blocked.
cuz mods HAVE to see his posts..

#shitdeal
 
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Yeah I don't understand this either. He dominates every thread with his bad faith arguments. And even him you have him on ignore like I do, the replies to his nonsense still derail everything. Can't people just ignore until he goes away?

I dunno why there is an assumption he is a fan of the Flyers.

It’s just about debates, nothing more.
 
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