Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[Danko]

Yet another mention of the triumvirate:

 

[Beef Invictus]

Triumvirates always end in civil war.

 

[freakydallas13]

They liked Briere period, He has a similar background to Sakic and Yzerman, former star player who was groomed for a few years, then given the keys to the kingdom. Doesn't mean he'll work out, but it's obvious he is the key actor, if he really didn't want Torts around, something would have been worked out.

Torts plays kids, he's done that at every stop - what he doesn't do is play all the kids, they have to earn PT. He doesn't coddle them, but he doesn't defer to veterans either, he benched almost every veteran on this team at one point or another.

They liked Briere period. His 14 months as special assistant to a terrible GM was enough to not even bother looking outside the organization.

Triumvirates always end in civil war.

Maybe a horse will kick Torts in the face 23 times and rid this franchise of him.

 

[Danko]

Triumvirates always end in civil war.

 

[Redpath]

Yet another mention of the triumvirate:

"The search was about finding the best two candidates, but also the best two candidates who have a feel for us an organization and what we mean to the city in the region" is just a fancy way to say "former Flyers."

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Triumvirates always end in civil war.

Pompey: Torts
Julius Caesar: Briere
Crassus: Jones

? Or we going with the 2nd tri

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Flyers should go full slapstick comedy and put Gritty in some position of importance

 

[Danko]

Pompey: Torts
Julius Caesar: Briere
Crassus: Jones

? Or we going with the 2nd tri

that would make us cato?

 

[Tripod]

Look at the construct of the top 4/5 teams remaining and see how Edmonton has done... they had four 1st overalls in six years and haven't past the semis.

Tanking hard does not always mean success.

Nothing is guaranteed.

But you also can't ignore that every Cup champion since 2005 has had a #1 or #2 pick overall on their team. Only St.L who had a #3 and Detroit with Datsyuk/Hank/Lidstrom are tbe outliers.

So let's not pretend that top picks don't matter...if you want to win a Championship.

 

[Curufinwe]

This PR waffle is different, but not any better than the old PR waffle.

Fletcher focusing on ‘aggressive retool’ instead of potential rebuild

The Philadelphia Flyers are going to try to not be one of the worst teams in the league beyond this season. There is a certain word in that statement that is key, but the message was extremely clear…

www.broadstreethockey.com

The Philadelphia Flyers are going to try to not be one of the worst teams in the league beyond this season.

There is a certain word in that statement that is key, but the message was extremely clear when Flyers General Manager Chuck Fletcher and Governor Dave Scott met with the media on Wednesday: Retool, patch it up, fix what’s broken, but do not even think about this team heading into a rebuild scenario.

“Everything is on the table, we’re going to try to aggressively retool here,” Fletcher said. “The trade deadline; typically, as you all know, the teams that are clearly going to make the playoffs are often looking to add guys on expiring contracts — the teams that aren’t making the playoffs, have a chance to maybe add some future assets, whether they be draft picks or prospects.

He won't work out. He isn't similar to Yzerman or Sakic, because if he had competent ideas the Flyers would hate him. That's why they hire people like Fletcher, AV, Tortorella, Jones, Flahr, and Briere. And not someone like Timonen.

Well Kimmo claims to love the hiring of both DB and KJ.

 

[BernieParent]

If you can’t be smart, use words that make you sound smart I guess.

That will be my epitaph.

 

[04hockey]

Triumvirates always end in civil war.

this "triumvirate's" team is about 5 MONTHS away from playing their first game

why the f*ck all the criticism ??.....they haven't even played ONE F*CKING GAME

 

[FlyerNutter]

Yet another mention of the triumvirate:

Does any other organization do shit like this? These kind of obvious propaganda media releases?

I could be wrong, and it happens outside of Philly - but it’s downright pathetic. They are double down on gaglighting their own fan base.

 

[Curufinwe]

Yet another mention of the triumvirate:

Hilferty got bamboozled by Tortorella's bluster.

Jones keeps saying he wouldn't take a President's job on another NHL team, like any other team would want him in that role, like the guys running the Penguins might have come knocking on his door. You're a color commentator/radio host, dude.

 

[Danko]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Listening to STG it really does sound like it bothers Therien that he’s in media & not within the front office here.

 

[Danko]

 

[Tripod]

Hilferty got bamboozled by Tortorella's bluster.

Jones keeps saying he wouldn't take a President's job on another NHL team, like any other team would want him in that role, like the guys running the Penguins might have come knocking on his door. You're a color commentator/radio host, dude.

And remember....Jones did not reach out to them....they reached out to him 1st.

 

[Curufinwe]

Therien is even less qualified than Jones. At least Jonesy can tell a fun story and get people to like him.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Nothing is guaranteed.

But you also can't ignore that every Cup champion since 2005 has had a #1 or #2 pick overall on their team. Only St.L who had a #3 and Detroit with Datsyuk/Hank/Lidstrom are tbe outliers.

So let's not pretend that top picks don't matter...if you want to win a Championship.

Carolina could do it this year (Svechnikov is out for the year). Dallas also if you are drawing the line right after #2 although Heiskanen is a big driver of that team.

But yes, most teams aren't savvy enough to string enough good moves together to swing the odds in their favor without an obvious elite talent to make up for other shortcomings. File the Flyers under most teams.

 

[BernieParent]

Carolina could do it this year (Svechnikov is out for the year). Dallas also if you are drawing the line right after #2 although Heiskanen is a big driver of that team.

But yes, most teams aren't savvy enough to string enough good moves together to swing the odds in their favor without an obvious elite talent to make up for other shortcomings. File the Flyers under most teams.

And by 'under', you mean by about 14 points in the standings, right?

 

[freakydallas13]

People who point at teams like Edmonton not winning a cup with multiple high draft picks and then walking away saying high draft picks =/= success don't know the difference between "necessary" and "sufficient" and would fail a logic 101 class.

 

[dragonoffrost]

This PR waffle is different, but not any better than the old PR waffle.

Fletcher focusing on ‘aggressive retool’ instead of potential rebuild

The Philadelphia Flyers are going to try to not be one of the worst teams in the league beyond this season. There is a certain word in that statement that is key, but the message was extremely clear…

www.broadstreethockey.com

The Philadelphia Flyers are going to try to not be one of the worst teams in the league beyond this season.

There is a certain word in that statement that is key, but the message was extremely clear when Flyers General Manager Chuck Fletcher and Governor Dave Scott met with the media on Wednesday: Retool, patch it up, fix what’s broken, but do not even think about this team heading into a rebuild scenario.

“Everything is on the table, we’re going to try to aggressively retool here,” Fletcher said. “The trade deadline; typically, as you all know, the teams that are clearly going to make the playoffs are often looking to add guys on expiring contracts — the teams that aren’t making the playoffs, have a chance to maybe add some future assets, whether they be draft picks or prospects.


Well Kimmo claims to love the hiring of both DB and KJ.

Kimmo and Danny B are buds along with Hartnell (aka the guy getting Jones old job) think about it.

 

[kudymen]

People who point at teams like Edmonton not winning a cup with multiple high draft picks and then walking away saying high draft picks =/= success don't know the difference between "necessary" and "sufficient" and would fail a logic 101 class.

It is a hilarious lesson of confirmation bias from people who claim they are "so much smarter than then emotional hive"

 

[Magua]

The only time I want to see the words “Keith Jones” and “big picture” together is in discussion of his favorite pop-up books.

Big picture like job security of the coaches? The mediocre part-time NHL coach he hero worships and the AHL cockroach -- err coach -- he's buddy buddy with? What type of talent the team should prioritize, with his yearly history of fetishizing hits, blocked shots, grit, minutes played, while minimizing skill? Analytics hirings? Considering age curves in a lengthy (or not lengthy!) rebuild? Addressing the developmental issues? Understanding that this team has no core players?

D-o-o-m-e-d.