Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[Tarpongg]

Check back after we start a rebuild. That was the whole point of the reorganization, the last FO refused to rebuild.

Flahrsy was and is a main cog in the org that refused to rebuild made no preparation for this critical draft that smart orgs will be feasting on like Flahrsy at Chik fil a.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Tortorella’s one year here apparently trumps fans decades of following this team do the same song & dance. Guy can’t help himself but just blurt out bullshit every time they put a microphone in front of him. When the losses continue to pile up, more people will start to rightfully sour on this jackasses’ shtick.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Comcast isn’t selling. They have a corporate way of looking at and doing things. It looks like they want a consensus style of operation. Hilferty, Camillo, Briere, Tortorella and Jones seem like they can play fairly with each other in the sandbox. That is what Brian Roberts wants. Ultimately he runs the show and it’s his toy to control.
We will see who can do what and when as time goes by. Until things happen that can be evaluated it’s time to sit back and wait. If they do stupid stuff then they can be judged. Until then it’s a clean slate. The organization has performed badly in the past but that’s not these new guys. But as Bill Bradlee once said, “f*** up again and I’m going to get mad”

There's no reason for them to have a clean slate. Aside from Jones, who is a minor figure, everyone here is the prior regime. That regime sucked farts out of dead rats. Everything is the same.

 

[renberg]

There's no reason for them to have a clean slate. Aside from Jones, who is a minor figure, everyone here is the prior regime. That regime sucked farts out of dead rats. Everything is the same.

Being in Philly and having any power in the organization are two different things. Briere was a shadow in the background. Fletcher and the Dinos ran the show after co-opting Scott. Flahr is another thing. He may be gone after the draft. It’s tough to can the guy in charge of amateur scouting going into that. IMO, Lappy hasn’t done enough to warrant keeping his job. Neither has Dave Brown. If this is the New Orange, we will see a clean out and revamping of the scouting at all levels since they will have a different criteria for evaluating players than the old regime.
The first indication of a new direction will be who gets drafted as well as who gets subtracted from the roster for whom and under what terms.

 

[Hockeypete49]

I am very happy and excited the way things have unfolded here. To me it looks like they have finally got it right. Time will tell, but this feels good. Now draft Ryan Leonard and I will feel even better. Congrats to Keith and Danny!

 

[Beef Invictus]

Being in Philly and having any power in the organization are two different things. Briere was a shadow in the background. Fletcher and the Dinos ran the show after co-opting Scott. Flahr is another thing. He may be gone after the draft. It’s tough to can the guy in charge of amateur scouting going into that. IMO, Lappy hasn’t done enough to warrant keeping his job. Neither has Dave Brown. If this is the New Orange, we will see a clean out and revamping of the scouting at all levels since they will have a different criteria for evaluating players than the old regime.
The first indication of a new direction will be who gets drafted as well as who gets subtracted from the roster for whom and under what terms.

Briere actually orchestrated at least one signing we know of, Flahr decided to punt on a draft.

The fact that they're all cool with further empowering Briere is the worst condemnation there is.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I guess the check cleared.

 

[Adam Warlock]

We know Torts and Jones hate skilled players and want a team of goons. Briere is the wildcard. Theres a few ways this could go:

1. Briere is the GM bc he shares the same bonehead philosophies of Torts, Jones, and the tradtional Flyers. The rebuild will fail because theyre philosophy cant succeed in todays NHL.

2. Briere is actually a smart GM but ultimately isnt allowed to make the moves he wants to make because Torts, Jones, and others wont let him. The rebuild will fail because theyre philosophy cant succeed in todays NHL.

3. Briere is actually a smart GM and gets to make the moves he wants too...but he is handcuffed to Torts and Lappy and they fail to develop the talent. Rebuild fails because the right players never get developed.

4. Briere is actually a smart GM and gets to make the moves he wants, including on the development side. Rebuild succeeds.

#4 is the only way this succeeds...and that assumes no major bad luck falls on the team.

 

[IronMarshal]

I am taking a Let’s Go attitude toward the new regime. It is a new regime after all. There is a new sheriff in town in Danny B, and Jonesy should be good for a few laughs as well as his personal insight. I know the board isn’t happy with this, but this is what we got. I’m on board until they give me reason not to be.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

So I like what they've had to say, my biggest issue is they can say all the right things, but as the last 2 gms have shown is you can say all the right things, but we need to see the right things, if you're rebuilding, we want you to rebuild properly, we don't want to see you get a couple good draft picks, and then start pissing them all away, we want to continuously build, and thats where the huge disconnect comes from with the fan base, we've heard all of this before, but they've never even executed or attempted to stay the course, they stray away awfully quickly

 

[Beef Invictus]

I guess the check cleared.

All these takes are going to age wretchedly.


The entire point of making a media guy president was to get this exact reaction.

 

[deadhead]

Torts does not have a thing for goons, that's an urban myth. He has a thing for fundamentals and discipline, but gives offensive players carte blanche to create as long as they back check, cover for D-men on the cycle, and play defense. He's not against skill, he's against skill players who think scoring means they don't have to work hard away from the puck and that fundamentals don't matter.

“There will be some changes that will occur in the next few months,” Briere said. “That’s where having the chance to be on the inside the last two-plus years and dealing with every department on the hockey side, I was able to find out where our strong spots are, where our weaker spots are, and what we need to improve on.

Flyers' "New Era of Orange" Will Be Unlike Any in Franchise History

Danny Briere had seen this tactic before. A veteran reporter asking him one question where the answer is known to set up another question where the answer isn’t as clear. So, on the day he was officially announced as the new GM of the Philadelphia Flyers along with longtime broadcaster Keith...

www.crossingbroad.com

He's got a list of who's naughty and who's nice, but he's checkin' it twice (with Jonesy).

 

[Beef Invictus]

Torts does not have a thing for goons, that's an urban myth. He has a thing for fundamentals and discipline, but gives offensive players carte blanche to create as long as they back check, cover for D-men on the cycle, and play defense. He's not against skill, he's against skill players who think scoring means they don't have to work hard away from the puck and that fundamentals don't matter.

“There will be some changes that will occur in the next few months,” Briere said. “That’s where having the chance to be on the inside the last two-plus years and dealing with every department on the hockey side, I was able to find out where our strong spots are, where our weaker spots are, and what we need to improve on.

Flyers' "New Era of Orange" Will Be Unlike Any in Franchise History

Danny Briere had seen this tactic before. A veteran reporter asking him one question where the answer is known to set up another question where the answer isn’t as clear. So, on the day he was officially announced as the new GM of the Philadelphia Flyers along with longtime broadcaster Keith...

www.crossingbroad.com

He's got a list of who's naughty and who's nice, but he's checkin' it twice (with Jonesy).

Nobody said he has a thing for goons. That team defenders can only swing at strawmen is an indicator the team is indefensible on its own merits.

Tortorella has a thing for 10-12 goal PK specialists. That's what he said he wants.

 

[Tripod]

Check back after we start a rebuild. That was the whole point of the reorganization, the last FO refused to rebuild.

Oh...it hasn't started yet? You spent all year saying that's what we were doing.

The last FO? Oh...so it's now Fletcher's fault?

 

[deadhead]

Oh...it hasn't started yet? You spent all year saying that's what we were doing.

The last FO? Oh...so it's now Fletcher's fault?

Scott, Barber, Fletcher et al. It was a consensus model with the Advisors collectively giving a lot of input.
Torts was rebuilding, Fletcher was trying to straddle the fence and keep his job.
Notice Torts benched every veteran Fletcher acquired?

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I wonder who Jonesy will replace Briere with in a few years.

Jim Jackson

 

[Tripod]

Scott, Barber, Fletcher et al. It was a consensus model with the Advisors collectively giving a lot of input.
Torts was rebuilding, Fletcher was trying to straddle the fence and keep his job.
Notice Torts benched every veteran Fletcher acquired?

The delusion is overwhelming with you.

 

[GKJ]

I guess the check cleared.

All these takes are going to age wretchedly.


The entire point of making a media guy president was to get this exact reaction.

All this stuff, they’ve already been talking about it, but it comes down to a simple concept: we will not be fooled again.

And it’s a perfect place to be in on the internet. We cannot be wrong. Only those who are taking them at their word can be. They don’t need a chance from us, Dan Hilferty did that for them. You must first show that you’re running a baseline functional organization. They have to first prove to themselves that they’re right. So just prove yourselves right, you’re going into a planned 3-5 year rebuild, so you got time. Prove yourselves right.

 

[renberg]

Briere actually orchestrated at least one signing we know of, Flahr decided to punt on a draft.

The fact that they're all cool with further empowering Briere is the worst condemnation there is.

Anything done by Fletcher-Briere is now old news. Do we know if DB would make that move on his own today? That 2021 draft all goes on Fletcher. He wrecked it with his stupid trades. Of course Flahr and his scouts recommended who was selected. That’s why I want to see a new scouting department at pro and amateur levels. Especially beefed up in Europe.

 

[kudymen]

Scott, Barber, Fletcher et al. It was a consensus model with the Advisors collectively giving a lot of input.
Torts was rebuilding, Fletcher was trying to straddle the fence and keep his job.
Notice Torts benched every veteran Fletcher acquired?

Are you the same person who admitted of having no idea how the Flyers organization operates on the inside?

 

[BernieParent]

I wonder who Jonesy will replace Briere with in a few years.

Deslauriers

 

[Striiker]

Spineless shill

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Spineless shill

echo.

 

[Striiker]

echo.

echo.

 

[Tripod]

Are you the same person who admitted of having no idea how the Flyers organization operates on the inside?

No no...we hired a coach who somehow was rebuilding but the GM wasn't. There is no universe even in the MCU or DCU where that makes any sense