Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[Deadpool8812]

I don't know what's worse...

That stupid sign they have/had in their locker room, or the statement they released today

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Yeah but just think how good we're all going to be at shitposting after all of this. We will rise to levels never before seen on the internet.

From last night

On the brightside, this may be the best possible hire for the content on here. Things about to get spicy!

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[GKJ]

I don’t care who they trade with the exception of Hart. I don’t care if it’s irrational. I’ve gone my entire life without a franchise goalie. I want him to be a lifer.

That may not be a choice they get to make.

 

[deadhead]

I am indifferent on Briere, his job is pretty straight forward for the next 3 years.

- Get rid of the deadweight veteran contracts
- Draft a few players in the top 10
- Trade 2-3 "core" players (Provorov, Hart, Laughton, etc) and get back some pieces (blue chippers, 1st rounders, etc) to continue to build the future

The question will be, will the "others" in the organization allow it...

The question will be whether Briere can execute this efficiently.

Can he get good value in trades?

Can he fix the pro scouting group so they can identify hidden gems they can pick up cheaply in trades and on the waiver wire?

Can he make the right choices at the top of the draft, and identify the "keepers" among his scouts?

Can he manage the cap to create room as a strategic asset?

If the 2026-27 team is loaded for bear with top young players (Gauthier, #7, next year's pick, some trade assets should be in the NHL by then) then he has succeeded. It doesn't have to be a playoff team, it has to flash enough potential that in a year or two as players grow up it will become a top team.

 

[FlyerNutter]

A pig with a nice hat, and a Flyers tattoo could be hired to fill a FO position.

Give it a chance.

 

[chadateit]

A pig with a nice hat, and a Flyers tattoo could be hired to fill a FO position.

Give it a chance.

Not if it grew up in a non-flyers farm.

 

[deadhead]

It’s why they interviewed Briere - who was legitimately a finalist - thus leading them to creating a full time spot for him. I don’t think Jeff Gorton is hands-off there.

Someone mentioned earlier with Fletcher about how that put him on the clock so they don’t lose Briere, I don’t fully believe that. Their plan was to build enough so that Fletcher could ascend to be POHO and welcomed into the consortium as the new overseer. He was going to be in the Brian Burke role.

I doubt Fletcher wanted Briere, he didn't hire him in the first place, he didn't recruit him as a "special assistant" - especially in Feb 2022 after AV is fired and the team is in a tailspin (i.e. Fletcher knows he's on thin ice). Briere seems to be Comcast's man all along. Word was Fletcher didn't want Torts either.

At some point the details will come out.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Ok lets be real here for a second...

Briere being named GM? I can understand that. Since retirement, he's held various management jobs in hockey and has worked his way up from the ECHL. Its not like he was given an important staff role immediately after retirement.

Jones being named PoHO....yup. Flyers doing Flyers things, basically nullifying anything they say about heading in the right direction. All signs point to him being another one of Clarkie's boys. This is a guy who justifies benching players like Frost and Gostisbehere, and took any moment he could to glamorize players like Ristolainen and Deslauriers. Just another Comcast shill at this point who will still be doing what the advisors tell him to do.

Now if they come out and say the advisors are done, then I'll change my tune. Until then, I see no difference with this team

 

[wankstifier]

Why do you think Hart is a franchise goalie?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Is it good process to hire a GM without interviewing a single other candidate?

 

[FlyerNutter]

Ok lets be real here for a second...

Briere being named GM? I can understand that. Since retirement, he's held various management jobs in hockey and has worked his way up from the ECHL. Its not like he was given an important staff role immediately after retirement.

Jones being named PoHO....yup. Flyers doing Flyers things, basically nullifying anything they say about heading in the right direction. All signs point to him being another one of Clarkie's boys. This is a guy who justifies benching players like Frost and Gostisbehere, and took any moment he could to glamorize players like Ristolainen and Deslauriers. Just another Comcast shill at this point who will still be doing what the advisors tell him to do.

Now if they come out and say the advisors are done, then I'll change my tune. Until then, I see no difference with this team

The main ones cheering this on are those close to looking for funeral plots. It’s the only explanation.

I hate turning against people personally, but f*** anyone that supports this shit. Ruining the team along with the bastards happy to keep milking Snider’s cash cow.

 

[deadhead]

Is it good process to hire a GM without interviewing a single other candidate?

Top corporations tend to develop their executives from within, identifying candidates and grooming them for more responsibility. So this may seem eminently sensible from a Comcast perspective.

 

[Halladay]

Angelo goes off WIP and Keith gets promoted to help run a hockey team . I thought this was a joke when I first saw the story.

 

[Garbage Goal]

I am indifferent on Briere, his job is pretty straight forward for the next 3 years.

- Get rid of the deadweight veteran contracts
- Draft a few players in the top 10
- Trade 2-3 "core" players (Provorov, Hart, Laughton, etc) and get back some pieces (blue chippers, 1st rounders, etc) to continue to build the future

The question will be, will the "others" in the organization allow it...

Sports is generally pretty straightforward. Our franchise has proven countless times that all of those are easily bungled when the people making the decisions aren’t good at their jobs.

 

[freakydallas13]

Top corporations tend to develop their executives from within, identifying candidates and grooming them for more responsibility. So this may seem eminently sensible from a Comcast perspective.

Top corporations tend to promote individuals with more experience than "special assistant to the GM for 14 months" when selecting what will be the most powerful person in a billion dollar sports franchise.

 

[Magua]

Top corporations tend to promote individuals with more experience than "special assistant to the GM for 14 months" when selecting what will be the most powerful person in a billion dollar sports franchise.

I mean in theory he’s right. I know he’s right that they think of it like that. You train successors from within. The issue is when your organization is rotten, and you’re selling this shit as a new era, promoting from within doesn’t sound so wonderful. Any competent organization would conclude you need a fresh perspective.

Relating to Toronto, Shanahan and Dubas had no Leafs ties. Dubas was hired from outside and groomed as successor to Lou. Briere as the heir apparent GM was thrown together last minute like cereal for dinner.

I also imagine Briere is the least of the 3 that concerns us. It’s not good, but we can desperately entertain the thought it could be. This is a Keith Jones thread. Promoting from within doesn’t begin to describe that (firm approved) process. It’s like promoting the custodian to capologist.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The question will be whether Briere can execute this efficiently.

Can he get good value in trades?

Can he fix the pro scouting group so they can identify hidden gems they can pick up cheaply in trades and on the waiver wire?

Can he make the right choices at the top of the draft, and identify the "keepers" among his scouts?

Can he manage the cap to create room as a strategic asset?

If the 2026-27 team is loaded for bear with top young players (Gauthier, #7, next year's pick, some trade assets should be in the NHL by then) then he has succeeded. It doesn't have to be a playoff team, it has to flash enough potential that in a year or two as players grow up it will become a top team.

He won't be allowed to touch the scouts. They haven't survived this long for no reason.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I doubt Fletcher wanted Briere, he didn't hire him in the first place, he didn't recruit him as a "special assistant" - especially in Feb 2022 after AV is fired and the team is in a tailspin (i.e. Fletcher knows he's on thin ice). Briere seems to be Comcast's man all along. Word was Fletcher didn't want Torts either.

At some point the details will come out.

We do know Clarke wanted Tortorella.

 

[Larry44]

Ok, I'm more certain than ever the advisors get to voice their desires and are taken seriously. Just wrote this out of the blue after cementing a power structure that ensures nobody will remove them and there's nobody between them and Briere, huh?

Yep, you don’t have your head of PR write a preemptive piece anticipating criticism of the old Flyers network and meddling of the senior advisors if there’s not something in it.

This puff piece just played more defence than Deangelo did all year.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Top corporations tend to promote individuals with more experience than "special assistant to the GM for 14 months" when selecting what will be the most powerful person in a billion dollar sports franchise.

Even top organizations have nepotism...but maybe not to the Flyers degree.

Out of the choices that were listed for President, Pronger was the only one that may have had the mojo to actually clean house and restructure the entire organization.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Is it good process to hire a GM without interviewing a single other candidate?

Who's subordinate is also his boss, and whose coach is close to his equal.

What a process.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Even top organizations have nepotism...but maybe not to the Flyers degree.

Out of the choices that were listed for President, Pronger was the only one that may have had the mojo to actually clean house and restructure the entire organization.

Their nepotism is incidental and based on competency. Our nepotism is the entire point and based on maintaining an obsolete circle jerk.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Who's subordinate is also his boss, and whose coach is close to his equal.

What a process.

 

[Tripod]

Wait...if Fletch didn't want Torts, is that another mistake by Fletch? In Dead's world of course....not the norm.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Wait...if Fletch didn't want Torts, is that another mistake by Fletch? In Dead's world of course....not the norm.

I am surprised that when they were searching for a coach they used a consulting firm (who recommended Torts) and now they aren't using one on any other hire....