Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[FlyerNutter]

I'm going to laugh watching this bitch burn further.

But but but. The bullies. History!

 

[Beef Invictus]

The hot gossip will be that he's a joke nobody takes seriously or tries to deal with because he's powerless.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I think the biggest issue is lack of self awareness. Jones may have a mere figurehead position but the optics are incredibly poor. When there is finally talk of taking the team in a new direction this comes as a slap in the face to bring in more alumni

Maybe Briere will be good but this whole thing doesn’t instill confidence. Some of best coaches in Philly sports over the last 30 years were met with hostility when they were originally hired. That’s probably a moot point though because the Eagles are a gold standard in the league

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I wouldn't want Jones in a decision making post, but his connections have value, it's how you pick up scuttlebutt about players and coaches and GMs, who's a screwup, who's on the hot seat and so on. Jones will go to all the league functions and pick up on the gossip and grapevine. In that role, he's probably ideal.

He's a bit too in love with the physical side of the game for my tastes.

But Briere understands skill and is comfortable with analytics (big change from CF and Hextall) so I doubt he'll be swayed by Jones lauding a player's toughness.

It all comes down to Briere, is he a wunderkid or a false hope?

Comcast did send him to Wharton to develop the business skills a GM needs (negotiation, financial, etc), so you know this has been planned for a while. Like I said, this is a classic "corporate move," i.e. Comcast management grooming a young executive, not a "Flyer" move, grasping for "one of us" - for good or evil.

Wait, I thought Fletcher was at the forefront of getting the Flyers to invest in Analytics.

Which one is it?

 

[kudymen]

Smarter than you are.

Congratulations on finding that one working computer in the kindergarten

 

[Rebels57]

If Hilferty and Comcast actually gave a shit about the Flyers winning a Championship, they would be interviewing people like Eric Tulsky, Mathieu Darche (Tampa Bay), Kevin McDonald (Colorado), etc.

Instead they interviewed no one for their vacant GM position, handed it to Briere, and then made their TV color commentator/court jester the President of Hockey Ops.

Comcast either doesn't care about building a Championship team, or simply has no f***ing idea of how to accomplish that and are too incompetent and/or lazy to just look at what other successful teams are doing.

Either way, the only people suffering over this are the fans. The front office and players get paid either way.

 

[Young Sandwich]

If Hilferty and Comcast actually gave a shit about the Flyers winning a Championship, they would be interviewing people like Eric Tulsky, Mathieu Darche (Tampa Bay), Kevin McDonald (Colorado), etc.

Instead they interviewed no one for their vacant GM position, handed it to Briere, and then made their TV color commentator/court jester the President of Hockey Ops.

Comcast either doesn't care about building a Championship team, or simply has no f***ing idea of how to accomplish that and are too incompetent and/or lazy to just look at what other successful teams are doing.

Either way, the only people suffering over this are the fans. The front office and players get paid either way.

Yeah but just think how good we're all going to be at shitposting after all of this. We will rise to levels never before seen on the internet.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Couldn't care less. He's a moron that likes all the wrong things in players. He will only hurt this team further with whatever he contributes.

That’s fair, again, I hate the hire and they’ve lost the benefit of the doubt from me lol

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yeah but just think how good we're all going to be at shitposting after all of this. We will rise to levels never before seen on the internet.

We are already adept at it. This is exciting. Shitposting Level 100.

 

[deadhead]

Wait, I thought Fletcher was at the forefront of getting the Flyers to invest in Analytics.

Which one is it?

He did. He just didn't use the product.

This is not uncommon, I'm sure there are numerous companies that will invest millions in AI and have no clue what to do with it. In the same way, Fletcher knew analytics were "important," pushed the organization to invest in it, but had no idea how to use it.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The slow betrayal of Fletcher is underway lol

 

[deadhead]

I think the biggest issue is lack of self awareness. Jones may have a mere figurehead position but the optics are incredibly poor. When there is finally talk of taking the team in a new direction this comes as a slap in the face to bring in more alumni

Maybe Briere will be good but this whole thing doesn’t instill confidence. Some of best coaches in Philly sports over the last 30 years were met with hostility when they were originally hired. That’s probably a moot point though because the Eagles are a gold standard in the league

I don't think any figure in Philly sports meet with more derision than Howie, now he's a demi-God!
Sirianni was an object of ridicule when he was hired . . .

Sports are GOT: "you win or you die."

If Briere makes a series of good moves: "boy that was a brilliant move,"
if he screws up: "another dumb hire by Comcast."

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

He did. He just didn't use the product.

This is not uncommon, I'm sure there are numerous companies that will invest millions in AI and have no clue what to do with it. In the same way, Fletcher knew analytics were "important," pushed the organization to invest in it, but had no idea how to use it.

That sure seems mighty convenient.

 

[kudymen]

He did. He just didn't use the product.

This is not uncommon, I'm sure there are numerous companies that will invest millions in AI and have no clue what to do with it. In the same way, Fletcher knew analytics were "important," pushed the organization to invest in it, but had no idea how to use it.

Would you call it a mistake on his part?

 

[deadhead]

"Worse" is in the eyes of the beholder. Worse to you and me is them winning a few more games and picking 10-16 next season, which others like Baskow would see as improvement.

Depends on how they win a few more games.

Carried by Couts and Atkinson, or further development by Frost, Farabee and Cates and the emergence of Foerster, Zamula and Attard.

If Farabee gets healthy and has a breakout season (top 40 scorer pp/60 his first three seasons from 19-21) then that's one less top player you have to obtain through the draft.

The key is to keep adding young talent, the performance of the young talent will take care of itself, either it's good enough to make you a potential playoff team (then Gauither, #7 and what they pick up in trades is icing on the cake) or it's not, in which case you draft top 10 for another couple seasons.

The mistake is always to try and accelerate the rebuild with expensive FAs or trading for veterans.

 

[kudymen]

The slow betrayal of Fletcher is underway lol

And given the internet reveals the character, well.... draw your own conclusions

 

[BiggE]

We are already adept at it. This is exciting. Shitposting Level 100.

We could teach a Doctoral course in shitposting.

 

[Rebels57]

I still can't believe this is real, and I never will be able to believe it.

 

[Tripod]

If Hilferty and Comcast actually gave a shit about the Flyers winning a Championship, they would be interviewing people like Eric Tulsky, Mathieu Darche (Tampa Bay), Kevin McDonald (Colorado), etc.

Instead they interviewed no one for their vacant GM position, handed it to Briere, and then made their TV color commentator/court jester the President of Hockey Ops.

Comcast either doesn't care about building a Championship team, or simply has no f***ing idea of how to accomplish that and are too incompetent and/or lazy to just look at what other successful teams are doing.

Either way, the only people suffering over this are the fans. The front office and players get paid either way.

I know the Raps are hated but just compare what they are doing in looking for a coach. They are interviewing lots of people and using it as a great way to gather info on outside views of their team and players....and also to establish relationships in case future positions are available. It can't hurt to get outside info from others...especially when no one was going to hire Briere and Jones while they were conducting interviews. Instead, the Flyers choose the path with the least amount of work....and reward.

"Hammon was one of a few names that surfaced amid reports of the Raptors asking for permission to interview candidates currently affiliated with other organizations, a list that included former Raptors assistant and Raptors 905 head coach Patrick Mutombo; former Brooklyn Nets head coach and current Golden State Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson; Milwaukee Bucks assistant coach Charles Lee, Miami Heat assistant Chris Quinn, Philadelphia 76ers assistant Sam Cassell, and Sacramento Kings assistant Jordi Fernandez. Other candidates mentioned include former Raptors assistant, Raptors 905 head coach and current Vanderbilt University head coach Jerry Stackhouse, current Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin and Denver Nuggets assistant David Adelman.

Then there are some wild cards, with former Raptors head coach Dwane Casey thought to have registered interest and one source suggesting that Toronto has looked into the possibility of veteran NBA sharpshooter, turned podcaster, turned broadcaster JJ Redick — who has spoken openly about the possibility of getting into coaching — as being head coach material."

 

[tucson83]

If Hilferty and Comcast actually gave a shit about the Flyers winning a Championship, they would be interviewing people like Eric Tulsky, Mathieu Darche (Tampa Bay), Kevin McDonald (Colorado), etc.

Instead they interviewed no one for their vacant GM position, handed it to Briere, and then made their TV color commentator/court jester the President of Hockey Ops.

Comcast either doesn't care about building a Championship team, or simply has no f***ing idea of how to accomplish that and are too incompetent and/or lazy to just look at what other successful teams are doing.

Either way, the only people suffering over this are the fans. The front office and players get paid either way.

if briere was so bad, why did other teams want him then? what makes you think tulsky, darche, mcdonald want to come here? do they have a say what they want to do or you cant take no for an answer?

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

It's both... Comcast and Flyers influenced but of course you don't see that shade of grey

I thought the shade color was shit brown.....

 

[kudymen]

authenticbot v0.83 just cant top this

 

[Tripod]

Would you call it a mistake on his part?

Don't worry....I bet Torts is all about analytics. AV too.

 

[Beef Invictus]

if briere was so bad, why did other teams want him then? what makes you think tulsky, darche, mcdonald want to come here? do they have a say what they want to do or you cant take no for an answer?

Other teams? It was other team, singular. You mean Montreal, and their interest in him was based on his ability to speak French.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I don't think any figure in Philly sports meet with more derision than Howie, now he's a demi-God!
Sirianni was an object of ridicule when he was hired . . .

Sports are GOT: "you win or you die."

If Briere makes a series of good moves: "boy that was a brilliant move,"
if he screws up: "another dumb hire by Comcast."

I don’t think anyone is saying that Briere will definitely be a poor GM. The complaints are about the process, the reshuffling of deck chairs. No one wants Briere to fail. I’m sure most here have fond memories of that 2010 HBL line that caught fire and that kneeling Briere up punch as a celebration. I am tentatively optimistic about DB. Anyone can knock a team down to start a rebuild. The problem is the puppet masters are still lurking in the shadows