Rumor: Karlsson to Lightning (Mod warning in OP - READ IT)

[Sensung]

Nobody gives up an elite blue chipper with two years left on his ELC for an impending UFA. It simply doesn’t happen. There’s a first time for everything and I’ll be incredibly pissed if it does but the fact that you think there would need to be any add-on to Serg, much less a huge one, is simply laughable.

Hes not an impending UFA if he's agreed to an extension. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

 

[Del Preston]

22 years ago Hulk Hogan was the third man.

Who is the third team? And who's side are they on?

 

[DFC]

Sure. Someone will give me a fair deal? Teams don't want the best dman in the world, really?
Give me a fair price.

Ottawa won't get a fair price in this situation. TB's not trying to match a price set by Ottawa. They're trying to beat offers made by Vegas and Dallas. Dorion's only leverage is a bidding war. Once that's over, he either takes the best offer, or he gets no assets for Karlsson and the Senators' franchise is in even worse shape.

Ottawa will get a solid deal. Sergachev is a guy they can build their defense around. But TB's not going to decimate its center depth to add yet another #1D. Karlsson is a massive luxury, whereas Point is a genuine need.

 

[HockeyFan247365]

Is is safe yet to go to sleep? Haven't got the word yet.

 

[Jacall]

A lot of arguing in the thread (which is already a depressing subject for Ottawa) I was a Sens fan before Karlsson, I’ll be a Sens fan after, just very hard to be hopeful with Scrooge McDuck in charge.
I am also a massive Karlsson fan, so if he goes to Tampa, I will buy a new EK jersey (add to my recently purchased EK Ott Centennial jersey ) and will fly out to watch him in Tampa. At this point I’m just at the acceptance stage.

 

[Rangers79]

I think a lot of this has shown the rumors that even legit sources put out are dubious. Gotta take everything with a grain of salt till it's all official.

 

[AndreRoy]

Hes not an impending UFA if he's agreed to an extension. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

He’s an impending UFA until he’s traded to our team and the extension is signed - therefore the trade is for an impending UFA. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Makes sense, NJ has a ton of cap space and could use upgrades at both C and D.

 

[DFC]

Hes not an impending UFA if he's agreed to an extension. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

That doesn't change the situation as much as you think. If Ottawa had the option to keep him, it would. Because then TB would be bidding against Ottawa having Karlsson for 8 years, so THAT'S when the price would realistically be Point +. As is, Ottawa doesn't have that option to fall back on. So they can't just wait around for a team to meet what they think is a fair price. They have to take the best offer they can get.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Is is safe yet to go to sleep? Haven't got the word yet.

turn on twitter notifications for friedman, mckenzie, and dreger then go to bed.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

Fine I will go to bed now i hope I wake up to EK as a Bolt

 

[Sensung]

He’s an impending UFA until he’s traded to our team and the extension is signed - therefore the trade is for an impending UFA. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

The value of an impending UFA is one year of service.

TB will be getting 9.

Stop repeated the same lie.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Makes sense, NJ has a ton of cap space and could use upgrades at both C and D.

Very cryptic, Stone to NJ?

 

[domaug]

He’s an impending UFA until he’s traded to our team and the extension is signed - therefore the trade is for an impending UFA. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

i STRONGLY doubt Tampa is trading for Karlsson without at least a mountain of confidence that he's staying there long term. don't act like the situation is different than that.

 

[bert]

I would talk and the negotiations would go on, and Point would be in that conversation.

Leaf fans are the only ones who acknowledge how good Karlsson is. Its incredible.

 

[DFC]

They must be on Callahan's list. Makes sense.

 

[xteesy]

That is NOT your city's nickname it can't be

Trust me when I say I really, really wish it wasn't.

 

[blinkman360]

I'm calling it a night. Wake me up if something happens.

 

[Sensung]

That doesn't change the situation as much as you think. If Ottawa had the option to keep him, it would. Because then TB would be bidding against Ottawa having Karlsson for 8 years, so THAT'S when the price would realistically be Point +. As is, Ottawa doesn't have that option to fall back on. So they can't just wait around for a team to meet what they think is a fair price. They have to take the best offer they can get.

Ottawa can move him at the TDL for a huge return.

If Dorion had a clue he'd have told Stevie to take his final offer or he'd be trading EK to the Leafs.

 

[bert]

Hes not an impending UFA if he's agreed to an extension. Really not a difficult concept to grasp.

He's as thick as they come. He thinks Point is an Yzerman Bergeron hybrid. Not a person to reason with.

 

[Knightmare]

Vegas is the 3rd team.

Yzerman: Wait.... WTF just happened? How’d we end up with Bobby Ryan and Vegas got EK??

 

[AndreRoy]

i STRONGLY doubt Tampa is trading for Karlsson without at least a mountain of confidence that he's staying there long term. don't act like the situation is different than that.

Any extension is between us and Karlsson - Ottawa doesn’t get paid for that. The Senators are selling a year of Karlsson’s services and while the possibility of an extension can encourage teams to go a bit higher in a bidding war it’s still asinine to expect an elite blue chipper with two years left on his ELC for a guy who if not traded you’re going to lose for nothing in a year. Don’t act like the situation is different than that.

 

[clunk]

Think Tampa can make it happen without giving up valuable roster players ???

I think if it's just a prospects for Karlsson deal, it would be a bit of a coup for Yzerman. You'd think Ottawa would be looking at Point or Sergachev.

 

[Drew4u]

Point is arguably their 2nd best forward after Kuch. Makes no sense as a contending team to trade him even for Karlsson. Not hard to understand.

 

[DFC]

The value of an impending UFA is one year of service.

TB will be getting 9.

Stop repeated the same lie.

That's only the value on one side. What exactly is Erik Karlsson's value to Ottawa right now? He's a guy who might not even show up to camp, and will definitely not play there past this year. You're not factoring that in. If Karlsson were willing to play the next 9 years in Ottawa, they could ask for whatever they wanted, but then TB wouldn't be interested. We're only here because Karlsson is a great asset at a crazily diminished price, thanks to the hijinx going on in the Senators' organization.