Rumor: Karlsson to Lightning (Mod warning in OP - READ IT)

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Beddy Tlueger
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No. Point does not make us lose the cup or lose being a "favorite".

Does it hurt? Yes. But we've been cup favorites for a few years now, and not until this year did Point really have a break out.

until? as if it wasn't only his 2nd year...after a very good rookie season.
 

The Zetterberg Era

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And not give up a single asset other than cap.

Not yet... But you did just rob Peter, somebody (most likely Nylander for D help) is going to have to go at some point. Of course pull that trade off correctly and all is good.

The idea of Karlsson to Tampa is hard to imagine. That is a NBA level amount of stacking that you just don't see in hockey in the Cap era.
 

NiL8r87

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No. Point does not make us lose the cup or lose being a "favorite".

Does it hurt? Yes. But we've been cup favorites for a few years now, and not until this year did Point really have a break out.

TB would still be a top contender, but keeping Point and having Karlsson would make them the odds on favorite to win. Losing Point wrecks their center depth and frankly makes their overall offence go from exceptional to just above average imo.
 

AppsSyl

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Karlsson is a huge addition for Tampa, but they better hope Karlsson's ankle holds up. That is going to be a big, long contract, and a lot of assets out the door.
 

BatVader

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My son started texting me like crazy and sent me this...lol

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For the record, this is fake.
I’m not posting this to start problems or rumours.
 

xteesy

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until? as if it wasn't only his 2nd year...after a very good rookie season.

You mean the 40 point rookie season where we didn't make the playoffs?

I mean we didn't even make the playoffs. Clearly, if we didn't have him we wouldn't have been a cup favorite... Oh wait...

Don't get me wrong, Point is an incredible player but he's not the entire team. It'd be the equivalent of losing a high scoring top 6 for any cup contender.

Suck? Abso-f***ing-lutely. Cost us everything? No.
 

Sonny21

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Hush, posting the trolls makes for a good laugh xD

Side note - I think EK is waiting for this to get to 100 pages deep before he releases the news. Let's go everyone, we've got work to do!!!!!!

Posting fake sources makes for a good laugh? Makes mods job much harder I would guess, we get 10 replies instantly stating the source is fake/untrustworthy.

At least with semi reliable sources, you can maybe have some conversation.
 

TheGreatOne11

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Vegas with the (un)surprising trade. They make the most sense, and f*** Serg, if Point isnt coming back Ottawa has a much harder rebuild coming. I hope they stick to their guns unless it's Serg+++
 

HanSolo

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It's weird how everyone sighs (for good reason) at Eklund rumours, yet I've seen at least 5-10 different wanna be insider tweets posted as inside information. I want leaks as much as anyone, but at least post from semi creditable sources.
Problem is even the creditable sources seem to be slinging shit at the walls and hoping one sticks.
 

TCB

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Pierre Dorion the next billboard face for the unemployment office.
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Ottawa Senators general manager Pierre Dorion.
“We feel very confident that we’re headed in the right direction,” Dorion said. “We don’t like to brand things here. We’ll have a younger team, and, watching development camp, there’s quite a few players that have impressed us and we know that were fighting for spots.
“We feel there’s going to be a change to our roster when October comes around and there’s going to be good, healthy battles.
 

Regal

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TB would still be a top contender, but keeping Point and having Karlsson would make them the odds on favorite to win. Losing Point wrecks their center depth and frankly makes their overall offence go from exceptional to just above average imo.

Karlsson is a better offensive player than Point though
 

Maplebeasts

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Not yet... But you did just rob Peter, somebody (most likely Nylander for D help) is going to have to go at some point. Of course pull that trade off correctly and all is good.

The idea of Karlsson to Tampa is hard to imagine. That is a NBA level amount of stacking that you just don't see in hockey in the Cap era.
No Nylander does not have to go. It's been posted about and talked about to death.
 

Sonny21

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Problem is even the creditable sources seem to be slinging **** at the walls and hoping one sticks.

Agree, it's that I can't even pretend to discuss anything seeing from BoltJoltz/etc or whatever as a source. At least with some other posts, there might be a chance since we're talking about REAL people, not nameless twitter sources.

That's what I'm mainly referring to, nameless/faceless twitter "sources".
 

Gil Gunderson

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Pierre Dorion the next billboard face for the unemployment office.
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Ottawa Senators general manager Pierre Dorion.
“We feel very confident that we’re headed in the right direction,” Dorion said. “We don’t like to brand things here. We’ll have a younger team, and, watching development camp, there’s quite a few players that have impressed us and we know that were fighting for spots.
“We feel there’s going to be a change to our roster when October comes around and there’s going to be good, healthy battles.
Dorion will be unemployed when Melnyk sells. He should go back to being head scout.
 
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PensandCaps

Beddy Tlueger
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You mean the 40 point rookie season where we didn't make the playoffs?

I mean we didn't even make the playoffs. Clearly, if we didn't have him we wouldn't have been a cup favorite... Oh wait...

Don't get me wrong, Point is an incredible player but he's not the entire team. It'd be the equivalent of losing a high scoring top 6 for any cup contender.

Suck? Abso-****ing-lutely. Cost us everything? No.


40 points in 68 games. Yes thats a very good rookie year.
 

AppsSyl

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I am curious to see the Karlsson effect on Tampa. He seems more of a luxury than a necessity, with the Lightning being so potent offensively already. Their only issue last year was goals against, 236 (which was 4 more than Toronto), and I am not sure Karlsson helps with that. I wonder if he will be paired with Hedman or McD.
 

KilPhessel

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I’m sure it’s been talked about already in here but genuinely curious why it was such a sticking point to trade Hoffman out of the division but then Dorian has no issues keeping one of the best defenseman in the game in his division? Very strange
 
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