Kane might be in legal trouble in Buffalo (verifiable sources only, no hearsay)

[Hawks82]

What association? Are you kidding me. As sports fans most of us realize athletes are the victims.

Athletes are targets, no doubt about it.

It's just a stupid position for Kane to put himself in...he should ****ing know better at this point. I cringed when he made that stupid "better watch out for me" comment at the rally.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

What association? Are you kidding me. As sports fans most of us realize athletes are the victims.

I don't consider any of those clowns in the NFL who were in trouble the last year "victims", not one. Some athletes can be targets and victims, others think they are gods and can do anything without consequence. I don't put Kane in that category but he will end up lumped in there by the general public if this turns out true.

 

[G0AT]

Seeing this news made my stomach drop. Say it ain't so.

 

[Nameless]

wtf happened?

jesus.

 

[dbridge]

Woosh... that's something I hadn't even given a moment's thought to until now. Even if, best case scenario, this goes completely away in the next ten minutes by a shocking revelation about this being a complete fabrication of an allegation, I'd have to assume that EA would still be at least slightly hesitant. If the investigation is prolonged and especially if charges are filed, I can't see them being willing to keep him on.

An entirely different scenario, but they did remove Dany Heatley in 2004 after the Dan Snyder accident (although plenty of Heatley covers made it on the market).

So it wouldn't be a huge surprise, but they really dug themselves into a weird situation with their whole teammate cover idea. Would they photoshop Kane out for Keith or another Hawk? Go with Toews only despite pimping the whole teammate thing with the return of EASHL? Find another pair of teammates elsewhere in the league? Who knows.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

Athletes are targets, no doubt about it.

It's just a stupid position for Kane to put himself in...he should ****ing know better at this point. I cringed when he made that stupid "better watch out for me" comment at the rally.

Yep, when he made that comment at the rally I immediately thought "idiot".........

 

[abt424]

There is a clear track record of him being a braindead, arrogant, aggressive, entitled moron when alcohol is involved.

Assuming this gets resolved without him going to jail, the first thing the Blackhawks need to do is to keep him away from alcohol at all times.

True. But there is a big difference between the above and rape. A huge difference. It's a huge line to cross.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

What an offseason. The cup seems like a distant memory...........

 

[hockeydoug]

Athletes are targets, no doubt about it.

It's just a stupid position for Kane to put himself in...he should ****ing know better at this point. I cringed when he made that stupid "better watch out for me" comment at the rally.

That's about where I'm at right now. I'm waiting for the rest to get sorted out. What a dummy.

As for people picking sides, I'm all for it. Keep the opinions rolling in, even the bad ones. The court of public opinion isn't bound to a rule set, a sports message board shouldn't try to act otherwise imo.

 

[chicagoskycam]

Well this offseason keeps getting worse. I hope it's not true but this guy can't seem to stay out of high risk situations. Kane - you're not some typical 20 something year old out having a good time. You're a target.

On he flip side if you did this - I hope you're done with the Hawks and pay for it. Either way considerable damage seems like it will be done.

 

[CallMeShaft]

One of our franchise players goes to Machu Picchu, has what was considered a delightful conversation with a fan. The other franchise player has been accused of rape. A huge difference in terms of maturity level between the two.

I do hope that this turns out to be nothing more than a misunderstanding, but with Kane you never know.

There is the chance that the sex was consensual and that the woman is lying, but I don't know her. She could be an outstanding citizen who would never lie or put herself before others. Unfortunately, we all know how Kane behaves.

I'm just at a loss for words at the moment.

 

[QuadrupleDeke]

This sums it up nicely:

@Proteautype: Patrick Kane has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Women have the right to be presumed honest until proven otherwise.

Those are mutually exclusive. You can't believe he's innocent AND believe that she's telling the truth.

 

[Blue Liner]

Everyone knows there aren't the facts yet. The point is anyone vilifying and pointing the finger at one or the other right now and picking a side and making assumptions is completely off base.

If Kane maintains his innocence, then, clearly someone is lying. Who that is, no one knows, and to make an assumption one way or the other is just plain ignorant.

 

[KINGS17]

What an offseason. The cup seems like a distant memory...........

Know how you feel.

 

[Your Reality Check]

Yikes. Are you aware of what you're actually saying? And no, putting a disclaimer of "I don't think it's okay" does not mean what you're saying is okay.

How so? We walk this slippery slope now a days where some women claim rape on something that makes them feel a certain way when rape is an action and I think it's wrong. The glorification of false rape has to be annoying for victims of actual rape. That's not fair to them. There was actually a cool (yet depressing) study done recently that showed alot of young men and women don't even know the true definition of some words they use but use them as if they know what they're talking about.

I don't understand what is so wrong about my statement. My point was that athletes (and men in general) need to be very careful when they get into sexual interactions with women who are strangers and acquaintances in today's world. Some rich and famous people go as far as having the woman sign a contract beforehand that they consent to sex and the acts that will be done because the last thing they want is to put a finger in the wrong place when things get hot and she freaks out and the next thing you know he is on the news covering his face as the cops take him away.

I try to do a good job at making my point so it's not misinterpreted so it's frustrating at times when people come at me trying to tell me what I think or dismiss it in a sentence.

Also, the victim blaming already going around is sad. None of us know the facts yet.

 

[Cullksinikers]

Everyone knows there aren't the facts yet. The point is anyone vilifying and pointing the finger at one or the other right now and picking a side and making assumptions is completely off base.

If Kane maintains his innocence, then, clearly someone is lying. Who that is, no one knows, and to make an assumption one way or the other is just plain ignorant.

Correct, sir.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

For the time being, let's refrain from talking about the patch article, as we cannot verify where they got one of their major claims about the allegation, which so far has only been traced back to a tweet from a fake account as far as I'm aware.

There's a lot we all don't know, and that includes the age of the alleged victim/accuser. Let's not openly say that the accusations are statutory in nature then, please.

 

[gqmixmaster]

Is it time to ban alcohol?

 

[bigd]

Do you have a reliable source saying the girl was under age? Hmmm?

I didn't specify this girl was under age. I just made a general statement that a girl under age can't legally consent to sex. I don't believe I need a source to say that. It should be common knowledge.

 

[Hawkaholic]

My mom also thought the same thing as soon as I told her it was a rape investigation. I guess that makes you, your wife, your 2 other friends, and my mom all misogynists.....

Yeah, pretty funny if you ask me.

You speculated what you think 'probably', not what might have happened -- discounting the woman's claims when you don't have a ****ing clue.

What I think is what I think. I'm sure lots of people have their thoughts on the subject (whether it's Kanes side, or the womans side) and they just don't post about them. I did, wippty do. It's a message board, I don't give a ****.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Is it time to ban alcohol?

Hey, no speculating what you think might have happened. It hasn't been proven that alcohol was a factor.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Those are mutually exclusive. You can't believe he's innocent AND believe that she's telling the truth.

Ultimately, they are mutually exclusive (he either did "it" and she's telling the truth, or he didn't and she's lying"). But in the absence of facts, both deserve the benefit of the doubt.

 

[hawksfan50]

Well...if it is the mess alleged then :

1. At least we have Rundblad!
2. They do not need to dump Bickell and Versteeg...tons of cap room if Patty goes to the slammer!
NOT that I wish any of this is true..but looks like some lawyer may get most of Kane's dough to get him out of another mess...


Just another day in AS THE INDIANHEAD TURNS...the soap opera you just cannot get enough of...

AND WE all thought the dog days were boring...not anymore!

AND...all this broke with Eliotte Friedman,Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger asleep on twittering this ...

AND ...the hockey experts told us it was Evander Kane who could be a problem...but no...the Buffalo Kane in this mess is our own dear poster boy ...so we are in deep...controversy...the stuff of life..
At least for now...the cap mess is overshadowed by the new mess...As Rosanne Rosannadana once said:"It's Always Something"....and this could be Some Thing!

 

[Blue Liner]

Ultimately, they are mutually exclusive (he either did "it" and she's telling the truth, or he didn't and she's lying"). But in the absence of facts, both deserve the benefit of the doubt.

That's the ultimate point as it stands right now.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

This is just... wow.

Really hope it's not true.

I'll wait to see what unfolds before giving an opinion either way.