Player Discussion K'Andre Miller

[will1066]

Gold! lol

 

[dangsLITE]

Literally every single time a broadcast pans to Key during a stoppage, he is spitting on the ice like kind of hard to believe it was a total accident to hit Doughty right in the face, but it's like breathing for him so who knows

 

[nyr2k2]

Literally every single time a broadcast pans to Key during a stoppage, he is spitting on the ice like kind of hard to believe it was a total accident to hit Doughty right in the face, but it's like breathing for him so who knows

Key spitting is like Igor doing weird shit with his eyes like he can't f***ing see or something.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

It's disrespectful as f***, but in the end it's a spit. Thousand things worse that can happen than spit.

Unless we're talking black death pandemic, then it's assault.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

It's disrespectful as f***, but in the end it's a spit. Thousand things worse that can happen than spit.

Unless we're talking black death pandemic, then it's assault.

The only person who knows whether it was an accident or intentional is Miller. I'm inclined to believe it was accidental because we've never seen this kid behave badly before. It's not like this was DeAngelo or Avery.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

That stinks. At least 3 games that means normally.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That stinks. At least 3 games that means normally.

It shouldn’t be any more or less.

That’s the precedent set by the league.

 

[turcotte8]

It shouldn’t be any more or less.

That’s the precedent set by the league.

and the league is always consistent when handing out punishments.

 

[LORDE]

I hope it was accidental. K'Andre has never seemed like the type that would do something like that.

Yet he did

Again, its an issue

Bad form IMO

 

[mike14]

Yet he did

Again, its an issue

Bad form IMO

Is it really an issue though (beyond whatever games he's suspended, which itself is quit minor)?

In his 3 seasons and 195 games to date this is the first time it's happened (that we know of), so realistically what has occurred is one of:
a. Miller actually has a compulsion to spit on people, he just normally gets it out of his system by doing it off overpasses onto unsuspecting pedestrians, but he got held up yesterday and so couldn't make it
b. he has just developed a spitting compulsion and so this will be a regular occurrence from here on out
c. he suddenly realised he hates Doughty, and in a game that lets you punch, cross-check, slam people in to walls and more he thought the absolute best way to display that hatred was with spit
d. his situational awareness is shit and he spat at the wrong place and time

A is a problem only if he gets caught
B is a huge issue but incredibly unlikely
C is a minor issue unless we face the Kings in the SCF again, or Doughty gets traded to the East
D isn't really an issue as he's hopefully learned a lesson about time, space and spit...

 

[LORDE]

Is it really an issue though (beyond whatever games he's suspended, which itself is quit minor)?

In his 3 seasons and 195 games to date this is the first time it's happened (that we know of), so realistically what has occurred is one of:
a. Miller actually has a compulsion to spit on people, he just normally gets it out of his system by doing it off overpasses onto unsuspecting pedestrians, but he got held up yesterday and so couldn't make it
b. he has just developed a spitting compulsion and so this will be a regular occurrence from here on out
c. he suddenly realised he hates Doughty, and in a game that lets you punch, cross-check, slam people in to walls and more he thought the absolute best way to display that hatred was with spit
d. his situational awareness is shit and he spat at the wrong place and time

A is a problem only if he gets caught
B is a huge issue but incredibly unlikely
C is a minor issue unless we face the Kings in the SCF again, or Doughty gets traded to the East
D isn't really an issue as he's hopefully learned a lesson about time, space and spit...

Youre post says it all

 

[mike14]

Youre post says it all

It sure does!

 

[hackeyman]

Literally every single time a broadcast pans to Key during a stoppage, he is spitting on the ice like kind of hard to believe it was a total accident to hit Doughty right in the face, but it's like breathing for him so who knows

If he is spitting all the time he could have reflux problems and sometimes that results in producing enough saliva to choke you and you are forced to spit without any warning.

 

[NikC]

It's disrespectful as f***, but in the end it's a spit. Thousand things worse that can happen than spit.

Unless we're talking black death pandemic, then it's assault.

Unless you're Steven Stamkos of course...

 

[ajdj10]

I'm actually dumbfounded at how there is a bigger uproar over this than the shit that Marchand did the other day.

 

[clmetsfan]

I'm actually dumbfounded at how there is a bigger uproar over this than the shit that Marchand did the other day.

I think it's quite simple: Isles and Devils fans aren't pathetically obsessed with the Bruins.

 

[BroadwayStorm]

*this post is accidental

PS what has TDA to do with KAM?

Back in the day, when KAM was a rookie he scored either his first goal or assist/point, I don't know and TDA retrieved the puck and wouldn't give it to him because he liked to mess hard with certain guys on the team, amongst them was KAM and Georgiev. Trouba put him in his place for this particular incident that only came out when TDA got into a fight with Georgiev later on amongst other rumors. This was never confirmed by players but that is what was going around the beat reporters.

 

[TominNC]

Key spitting is like Igor doing weird shit with his eyes like he can't f***ing see or something.

Jeez at least someone else has seen Igor. That time he got pulled for concussion protocol I said “but he always blinks his eyes like that”. People acted like I was making it up

 

[Cmox]

I'm actually dumbfounded at how there is a bigger uproar over this than the shit that Marchand did the other day.

I think it's quite simple: Isles and Devils fans aren't pathetically obsessed with the Bruins.

This. Because it’s a Ranger its a huge deal.

 

[Synergy27]

So when do they announce the suspension?

Kid can use a break and it will be good for him to watch a couple games from the cheap seats anyway.

 

[bl02]

I'm actually dumbfounded at how there is a bigger uproar over this than the shit that Marchand did the other day.

that was some pretty dangerous shit IMO. Slewfoots are so dirty. one day someone will really suffer a severe head injury or another torn up knee like Blais.

 

[Leonardo87]

So when do they announce the suspension?

Kid can use a break and it will be good for him to watch a couple games from the cheap seats anyway.

May not be till tomorrow, Rangers don’t play till Wednesday, so no reason to rush things.

 

[Bondra slapshot]

Mikkola and Harpur were both very good yesterday. They played way above what their typical skill would make you believe.

Trouba is a legit leader. You can argue he's not worth his full contract and you can point out moments during his tenure so far (his entire first season with us) where he clearly was underperforming but ever since last season he's stepped up immensely. When Mika got hit with the shot that hurt him, Trouba helped him all the way off the ice. He's done everything that you could expect from a leader. Gotta give him credit. He's definitely a leader.

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

This. Because it’s a Ranger its a huge deal.

It looks like it's a big deal outside of NYI/NJD fans cuz it's a disgusting thing to do. Marchand has built his career off of being a rat, but is also considered a "winner" and one of the best pests in the league, which is apparently commendable/interpreted as "he's being an effective hockey player." I think Marchand is up there in scumbaggery with a guy like Cooke, and Cooke got a pass because he played with Crosby & Co. Another "winner" and "hard-nosed player." What Marchand does is seen as part of his shtick - "It's hard-played hockey *winky face*"; spitting in someone's face isn't seen as much of a tactic and hasn't been a good look for anyone who has done it.

I don't think KAM is some reprehensible person in general. This is a pretty neanderthal-ish and braindead thing to do though, especially given the state of the team's defense. Doughty's not exactly a church mouse so wondering if there was more to it, not to endorse spitting in someone's face short of Doughty calling KAM some racial slur. There was also I think Dan Rosen's tweet saying KAM reached out and apologized to Doughty and they had a "good conversation."

 

[nyr2k2]

Back in the day, when KAM was a rookie he scored either his first goal or assist/point, I don't know and TDA retrieved the puck and wouldn't give it to him because he liked to mess hard with certain guys on the team, amongst them was KAM and Georgiev. Trouba put him in his place for this particular incident that only came out when TDA got into a fight with Georgiev later on amongst other rumors. This was never confirmed by players but that is what was going around the beat reporters.

IIRC it was only Adam Herman that reported this and Miller/his agent shot it down, and then Herman went into hiding for weeks after.