Player Discussion K'Andre Miller

[bl02]

We can definitely lock up Miller at that rate. You just need to accept losing on of Lafreniere, Chytil, or Lindgren to make it work!

He will be bridged to make the money work. It’s unfortunate.

Haven't looked at the numbers but if that is the case it's definitely unforunate.

 

[QJL]

Haven't looked at the numbers but if that is the case it's definitely unforunate.

We will have about 12M of cap space to sign Miller, Chytil, Laf, Kravtsov, and Gauthier.

I would expect no long term deals. Something in the range of:

Miller 4m x 3 years
Chytil 4m x 2 years
Laf 2m x 2 years
Kravtsov 1m x 1 year
Gauthier 1m x 1 year

Trading Goodrow or Lindgren are the options to clear space.

 

[bl02]

We will have about 12M of cap space to sign Miller, Chytil, Laf, Kravtsov, and Gauthier.

I would expect no long term deals. Something in the range of:

Miller 4m x 3 years
Chytil 4m x 2 years
Laf 2m x 2 years
Kravtsov 1m x 1 year
Gauthier 1m x 1 year

Trading Goodrow or Lindgren are the options to clear space.

Thanks.
That's if the cap goes up a million?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

We will have about 12M of cap space to sign Miller, Chytil, Laf, Kravtsov, and Gauthier.

I would expect no long term deals. Something in the range of:

Miller 4m x 3 years
Chytil 4m x 2 years
Laf 2m x 2 years
Kravtsov 1m x 1 year
Gauthier 1m x 1 year

Trading Goodrow or Lindgren are the options to clear space.

Goodrow + Trouba *

 

[QJL]

Thanks.
That's if the cap goes up a million?

Correct.

Goodrow + Trouba *

We can all dream Trouba will waive his NMC, but it’s a 0% chance. What a day that would be.

 

[walktheboulavard]

Hey guys. How did someone with that size, athleticism and talent fall that far in the draft? There were 7 D men taken before him.

I am so envious of your team's d corps and this immense talent. Congrats.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Hey guys. How did someone with that size, athleticism and talent fall that far in the draft? There were 7 D men taken before him.

I am so envious of your team's d corps and this immense talent. Congrats.

We do a pretty good job developing dmen. Forwards not so much.

 

[walktheboulavard]

We do a pretty good job developing dmen. Forwards not so much.

Well, one certainly can't argue with the procurement of talent on that side of the puck that's for sure. They say defense wins championships so maybe that holds true one day for your team friend.

In the meantime I'll definitely tune into Ranger games a bit more frequently when I can. Coming from an Oilers fan with 2 must watch talent on our team, you guys certainly have couple of box office counterparts yourself.

 

[GAGLine]

Hey guys. How did someone with that size, athleticism and talent fall that far in the draft? There were 7 D men taken before him.

I am so envious of your team's d corps and this immense talent. Congrats.

He was converted from forward only a few years before he was drafted. The belief with him is that he would be something of a project, but he developed faster than people anticipated.

 

[duhmetreE]

We can all dream Trouba will waive his NMC, but it’s a 0% chance. What a day that would be.

Only place I could see him waiving for is Miami.

but there would be a lot of moving parts. Florida would probably have to dump Bobs salary somewhere or we'd have to take salary back.

Trouba for Reinhart would be interesting

We will have about 12M of cap space to sign Miller, Chytil, Laf, Kravtsov, and Gauthier.

I would expect no long term deals. Something in the range of:

Miller 4m x 3 years
Chytil 4m x 2 years
Laf 2m x 2 years
Kravtsov 1m x 1 year
Gauthier 1m x 1 year

Trading Goodrow or Lindgren are the options to clear space.

I'd agree. that's roughly what we're looking at...

I would have signed KAM as soon as he struggled out of the gate. Now.... IF he finishes with the pace he's currently on, the dynamics change drastically.

 

[Circus86]

 

[nyr2k2]

After watching him extensively his freshman year in college I said the guy had a real chance to be an absolute star. I haven't said that about many Rangers prospects in my life. It's nice to see him realizing that potential.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Amazin

 

[DanielBrassard]

He and Fox have been probably the 2 best players on the ice for the Rangers the past few weeks. As disappointing as the forwards have been it's good to see Miller becoming what we hoped

 

[Off Sides]

They should try to go long term. If it costs stuff, like not spending on any UFA, small bridges for Laf and Krav, not bring back Blais, and Goodrow... if that is what it takes to lock up a top pair young defender that is an easy choice.

 

[Lgrsean]

They should try to go long term. If it costs stuff, like not spending on any UFA, small bridges for Laf and Krav, not bring back Blais, and Goodrow... if that is what it takes to lock up a top pair young defender that is an easy choice.

I think goodrow getting traded is a lock at this point. Hopefully there will be plenty of other cup winners on this roster by the end of the season.

The trick with the long term deal for Miller will be a balance of pushing to win now on a shorter deal while Mika/bread/Kreider are still in their prime and Igor is on his current deal or focusing on the long term.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

After watching him extensively his freshman year in college I said the guy had a real chance to be an absolute star. I haven't said that about many Rangers prospects in my life. It's nice to see him realizing that potential.

Remember when Nils was better? LOL


He was a bit of a HR swing when he was picked in the sense that there were a ton of things in his game that needed to come together in order for him to be a true impact defender but I always felt his base game gave him a floor of at least being a very good defensive defenseman. He was the one pick in the 2018 draft I was really happy with taking where we took him (Kravtsov really intrigued me but I didn't like him at 9. f*** Nik Bobrov.)

Those things have started to come into place over the last calendar year. Fox is God but K'Andre has been a clear #2 on this defense behind him since then and I don't think its really that close. The only real missing link for him offensively is being able to rip one timers. If he can add that to his tool kit he'll find himself on one of the PP units and he's a double digit goal, 50-60 point defenseman.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I think we found our new top pairing

 

[ReddestRum]

I think we found our new top pairing

As much as I would like to see it, Fox and KAM together would be overkill. Two offensive defensemen together might not be the best look. Each pairing needs speed, hands, and a good stick. That's Fox to Lind, Miller to Tuba, and Schne to Harp. Upset this equilibrium and there's going to be a D-pairing that's bottom heavy.

 

[markymarc1215]

We do a pretty good job developing dmen. Forwards not so much.

Very true. Heck we even got Dylan McIlrath a cup of coffee at the NHL level. That alone speaks volumes. But yes, we have a knack for delivering defenseman. I still think Zac Jones and Matt Robertson will continue that tradition for us.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Very true. Heck we even got Dylan McIlrath a cup of coffee at the NHL level. That alone speaks volumes. But yes, we have a knack for delivering defenseman. I still think Zac Jones and Matt Robertson will continue that tradition for us.

And defensive forwards, when is the next Dom Moore Jesper Fast in the organization? Sykora and Chmlar?

we did develop Callahan and Dubinsky. We need forwards with grit and attitude to develop properly. Othmann fits that mold

We do a pretty good job developing dmen. Forwards not so much.

Anisimov Dubinsky, Callahan, Dom Moore, Fast did okay as developed forwards for us.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

As much as I would like to see it, Fox and KAM together would be overkill. Two offensive defensemen together might not be the best look. Each pairing needs speed, hands, and a good stick. That's Fox to Lind, Miller to Tuba, and Schne to Harp. Upset this equilibrium and there's going to be a D-pairing that's bottom heavy.

Generally agree with this. There's something to be said for one of them being on the ice like 75-80% of the time also.

Together, neither one will get as many chances at offense.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[mrmovies779]

I honestly didn't know if this kid had the offensive potential he has shown.I am thrilled to have been wrong.If he ever gets some pp time,no reason he can't become a 40+ points 2 way monster.

 

[The S5]

KAM has done a nice job adjusting his play to become more reliable defensively. He has unfair physical talent, which is evident with his ability to pull away from most players, along with what seems like reach that can span across the entire ice surface. If he had a bit more of Foxy's megamind, you would be looking at a top 5 type player.
One more thing, can we stop with the "development" nonsense? Once a player hits the NHL, they have every opportunity to develop their game with the resources NHL teams afford to them. Some guys come in with physical traits that allow them to excel right away. For others, it takes time to find their game and commit to continuous improvement. The idea that the Rangers organization is doing something to hinder their offensive draft picks is just dumb.