egelband
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I’m hoping they do try this in training camp.
They can do football style deep bomb cross-ice passes.
Player Discussion K'Andre Miller
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He was given A LOT to do as a rookie.
Top 4 minutes straight from NCAA with zero training camp. Under normal circumstances, its very possible that he would have started in the A.
I never really understood the hate that he got last year. Yes he had some shit moments, all rookies do but it got to the point where he would be blamed for things that weren't his fault (He got blamed for a goal against at one point that he wasn't even on the ice for!) Its even carried over to this season and there are still a group of fans who cannot wait to jump on him when ever he makes a mistake.
Glad he got all of those reps last year though because it paid off this year. His entries and exit numbers will improve dramatically if Gallant lets him loose and allows him to rush the puck out of his own end. Hes not bad passing it out, but he will be much better if hes able to skate it out and carry it in or skate it out and then pass it as hes moving up ice. He hasn't truly been "unleashed" in that regard and Im sure some of that is due to his own reservations, but they need to encourage this to become a thing. Trouba kind of carried the load between the two of them when it came to pushing pucks up ice (and did a decent job during the RS, I don't know what the playoff numbers looked like.) There should really be more balance there, if not a heavier shift towards K'Andre doing the work.
I still don't understand why you would want to weaken the second pairing that much.
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I kind of remember arguing that the Rangers should not put an established vet LD in front of Miller. More so someone he would compete with instead of by default playing behind. They signed Nemeth.
I'd argue the same this off-season. While Jones does not have the same amount of NHL games played as Miller did, I think he deserves a chance to compete with Hajek/Tinordi for a spot and if he can't win that spot, at least at some point during this season, I'd be a little surprised.
I'd argue the same this off-season. While Jones does not have the same amount of NHL games played as Miller did, I think he deserves a chance to compete with Hajek/Tinordi for a spot and if he can't win that spot, at least at some point during this season, I'd be a little surprised.
I mean thats seems like what we're doing. We moved Nemeth because he was terrible. We haven't made any LD add's.
Its Jones/Robertson/Nils in the competition for that 6th spot.
Lays
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Lindgren Fox is never being broken up
Also I’d rather have two elite pairings rather than a ridiculously stacked one. Lindgren-Fox is already one of the best pairs in the league and they’ll continue improving
Miller-Trouba was fantastic last season, both players seemed to get the best out of one another
It’s easy to forget because of how well he played in the playoffs (especially considering that he was physically compromised) but Lindgren was straight ass during the regular season last year. I hope we get playoff Lindgren for the whole season next year.
I have no issue keeping the top 4 as is for now. Miller-Fox would probably be amazing, but it can wait another year as well. The changes on D I want to see are really usage things:
- Schneider eating into Fox’s PK minutes
- Jones taking all of Troubas PP minutes. Trouba should never see another second of PP time unless there are injuries.
I have no issue keeping the top 4 as is for now. Miller-Fox would probably be amazing, but it can wait another year as well. The changes on D I want to see are really usage things:
- Schneider eating into Fox’s PK minutes
- Jones taking all of Troubas PP minutes. Trouba should never see another second of PP time unless there are injuries.
1st I love Fox/lindgren pairing
But they are
undersized and get abuse by either the elite top lines or a really good down low forechecking lines.
The only answers to that
Fox put on 20lbs
bigger partner for Fox
Or a
Paired forward line that that has skill and grit..
But they are
undersized and get abuse by either the elite top lines or a really good down low forechecking lines.
The only answers to that
Fox put on 20lbs
bigger partner for Fox
Or a
Paired forward line that that has skill and grit..
Raspewtin
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there is no line in hockey that "abuses" Fox lol
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Raspewtin
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looking forward to KAM bringing the cup to his house on his turn with visits
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Being great in college doesn't necessarily mean you'll be great in the NHL.
Tough to say better, but comparable could be quite possible.
I love fox - lindgren. They are nowhere in the realm of makar and toews.
Makar and toews were the best defensive pairing in the NHL by a significant margin.
You're right, it doesn't necessarily mean that. But it does for K'Andre. I'd wager a lot on it.
Miller-Fox could be up there
I like Lindgren sometimes but to the extent he helps anchor the pair, he also is the weak link in the pair.
Miller-Fox could be something else and a more dominant 1st pairing that can't be shut down and can shut others down
Lindgren/Trouba could be a pretty good 2nd pairing that takes a little less responsibility and takes those minutes a bit better
But unlikely for it to happen. Fox should be pushing Makar every year for best D in the league but honestly think Lindgren holds him back just a bit
Fox had a subpar year this year likely due to injuries. He had plenty of games where he wasn’t Norris caliber.
Makar had an unreal year.
Fox may always be a candidate for the Norris but makar is capable of running away w it every year….
The Crypto Guy
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Personally, i'd rather keep Miller/Trouba and Fox/Lindgren together. It's worked well. Very balanced pairing as well with a puck moving dman and physical dman on each.
Both pairs eat up huge minutes. Late in a game maybe Miller/Fox.
Both pairs eat up huge minutes. Late in a game maybe Miller/Fox.
leetch99
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Lock this kid up ASAP for as long as possible . We have all watched him takes off with the puck albeit rare . He can skate...has the reach and size and eventually the offense will arrive . He quite possibly could be as valuable as Fox/Shesty/Laff over the next 5 seasons.....gotta lock him down soon . I would like to see a bit more physicality from him but I think that will come over the next 2 seasons as well....not Trouba like but just show a wee bit of nastiness . Great draft pick by the Rangers .
I figure W the cap buyouts off next year , cap increase and Reaves/Blais/Halak out that’s like 9 million to sign Laf and Miller
Gonna have to bridge then use cheap deals in the other roster spots
Gonna have to bridge then use cheap deals in the other roster spots
I cited what you used as reasoning. Even if it applies to Miller, it doesn't mean it's an accurate predictor.
The Rangers will have 19 million+ in cap space going into next summer. That will be more than enough to get Laf and Miller signed. You could even get one (or perhaps) both signed for pretty long term and still have a decent amount of space to play with. A ton of replacements for guys going out are going to come in house or won't be overly expensive to begin with.
22 million if they move Lindgren as well.
22 million if they move Lindgren as well.
