Prospect Info: K'Andre Miller (D) - Part IV
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- Jan 18, 2012
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A logical and competent coach has him on the Power Play next game.... lets see what happens
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
2 d-men on the PP might work. and he's a left shot. Panarin - Kreider - Zib - Tony - Miller would be worth a look. I mean why tf not our PP is abysmal right now. Very much doubt DQ makes any adjustments though.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Part of it is that we often judge forwards by their ability to score. If they're not scoring, we tend to get antsy a lot quicker.
With defenseman, if they score it's considered a bonus.
But you don't really hear fans getting super excited about a forward back checking, or making a smart defensive play, or making a great pass that doesn't result in a goal.
So some of it is fan expectations.
The other thing to consider is that our defenseman aren't breaking in at 18 or 19. They're breaking in at 2o or 21. So that extra year or two is another element at work.
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
true but last season the highest scoring rookies were all d-men aside from Kubalik who is a grandpa and shouldn't really count.
Also yes the age thing but it was only a couple years ago that the top 18 year olds were scoring at very good rates and i'm not even talking about Generational or near-generational like McDavid, Matthews, Laine, but even RNH, Landeskog, Hischier etc were scoring at 50+ point rates as 18 year olds on bad teams. Now the top 3 from this years draft are Laf who has no points, Byfield who isn't even in the NHL, and Stutzle who hasn't played much but has looked sketchy outside of that one goal. Last year's top 3 all scored around 23 points.
The Crypto Guy
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- Jun 26, 2017
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A lot of those defenseman are coming into the league years older than the forwards. So they are more physically mature for the league. You don't really see many 18 year old defenseman come into the league compared to forwards.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I tend to think last year was more the exception than the rule with Makar, Hughes and Fox all making their debuts.
The year prior, Dahlin was the only defenseman who finished in the top 10 rookie scoring, the year prior Butcher was the only defenseman, the year prior we had two defenseman with Skjei and Werenski, and the year before that we had one.
Typically we've seen one or two defensemen make the list. Last year was the first time in a while where they finished 1-2.
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
I thought he was going to play more honestly. He’s averaging like 16:00-16:30, and has already been scratched. Pittsburgh was giving this guy like 20 minutes a night.
Also what’s funny about last night is he had a 57.44 CF% and wasn’t on the ice for a 5v5 GA, just 1 4v5 GA. Trouba was on the ice for 1 5v5 GA and 2 4v5 GA.
I still think it can't be understated how no real group activities before camp, a proper training camp, and preseason, may be affecting these just drafted rookies this year.
Which in a lot of ways makes it more impressive what Miller is doing but he did have the benefit of some practice time with NHLers before the bubble playoffs.
How did our highest scoring rookie look this game? I only saw the last 9 minutes of regulation and OT.
He was really good again. Got beat by Eichel on the first goal; or at least by Eichel's long stick. But, there is no shame in that. He needs to start getting some PK time to see what he can do with that unit. Still amazed at how quickly he has become this good.
- Sep 17, 2007
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He did play a bit on the PK tonight. Basically 1 shift, but it's a start. I think it was the PK when Lindgren was in the box.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
He's been incredible, what he's doing as a 20/21 year old rookie right out of the NCAA is nothing short of amazing.
he kinda started that whole Eichel goal by trying to do a little too much on a shoot in..seemed like he was hoping for a hard rim around to hit Howden and didn't have much support going the other way. Eh, just seemed like he tried to make a play that was a bit risky and got burned but he'll learn
- Jan 18, 2012
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I really believe he should be on the PP. He may be the best LHS on the team.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Reminds me of a young Hedman. So unbelievably thrilled with his play.
I’d imagine he’s already on the untouchable list for any trades, just seven games into his first season.
I’d imagine he’s already on the untouchable list for any trades, just seven games into his first season.
JT Kreider
FIRE GORDIE CLARK
He is our 3rd most valuable asset after Laf and Fox
Ghost of jas
Unsatisfied
Are you sure you don't mean Seth Jones?
JimmyG89
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- May 1, 2010
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Fox had a ton of hype going into last season and I feel like he just torched through his expectations and became the best defender we had. Now, Miller had hype, but I don't think the same level, but he's already way past anything I could have expected of him.
He's poised with the puck. He's solid in his own end. He'll learn from that goal that Eichel had last night, but those are growing pains that will come out of his game at some point. His physicality should pick up as he gains more confidence and he understands that even though he is 21, he is bigger and stronger than most of the guys he is playing against already.
The skating he has is elite level and could get better. He can absolutely fly and not only that, has shown incredible lateral movement and edgework. As he gets more time, he's just going to be able to pick and choose his spots to jump up into the play and be very very effective at it.
Just a phenomenal athlete that already appears has the hockey sense and ability to play his position beyond his years. I hope his amazing play immediately doesn't ruin the expectations of his fellow draft class members when Lundkvist and Kravtsov join the team.
He's poised with the puck. He's solid in his own end. He'll learn from that goal that Eichel had last night, but those are growing pains that will come out of his game at some point. His physicality should pick up as he gains more confidence and he understands that even though he is 21, he is bigger and stronger than most of the guys he is playing against already.
The skating he has is elite level and could get better. He can absolutely fly and not only that, has shown incredible lateral movement and edgework. As he gets more time, he's just going to be able to pick and choose his spots to jump up into the play and be very very effective at it.
Just a phenomenal athlete that already appears has the hockey sense and ability to play his position beyond his years. I hope his amazing play immediately doesn't ruin the expectations of his fellow draft class members when Lundkvist and Kravtsov join the team.
haveandare
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Agreed on the PK. Having the 6d in there, smith or JJ, leads to a lot of trouble.
BroadwayStorm
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Oh man don't hold your breath on that. Those are two qualities Quinn completely lacks.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
It's a pleasure to watch him take two or three strides and he's out of his own zone.
NYR94
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I don't think the Rangers have ever had a defenseman this tall and this mobile, at least not in my time as a fan. Had some big guys who were good soldiers like Beukeboom, Malik and Staal but no one with the athletic gifts of Miller.
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