Player Discussion Kaiden Guhle

[Rapala]

He's not playing with Savard this season (they were -15 last season).

Look at every decent zone exit and 90% of the time you will see Guhle initiating it. Look for the best tape to tape passes from a Dman and Guhle is executing it. Look for the D man who instinctively knows when to take open ice it's Guhle. He rarely gets caught out and when he does some of his recoveries are off the charts. We all see it right?

 

[Mrb1p]

Look at every decent zone exit and 90% of the time you will see Guhle initiating it. Look for the best tape to tape passes from a Dman and Guhle is executing it. Look for te D man who instinctively knows when to take open ice it's Guhle. He rarely gets caught out and when he does some of his recoveries are off the charts. We all see it right?

Except the coaching staff.

 

[Hins77]

Charlie McAvoy a good comparison? I don't see Pietreangelo or Doughty at all when watching him

Maybe something between Matthias Eklhom and jacob slavin? Those are prettty good dman

 

[Mrb1p]

Maybe something between Matthias Eklhom and jacob slavin? Those are prettty good dman

Hes more offensive than both. McAvoy and Pietrangelo is closer.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Maybe something between Matthias Eklhom and jacob slavin? Those are prettty good dman

Guhle will be more offensive than both. Like I said before, I've been a huge Doughty in last few years. I see Doughty in offensve Kaiden Guhle. He is that talented. I will be not surprised if Guhle can have the same impact of a player like Doughty. The play in OT yesterday against Vegas, that's insane. Not many D-man are capable to do that.

Guhle is certainly a hybrid of Doughty and Slavin when I watch him. 50 points per season potential are obvious there for him.

All Habs fan can have a huge hope with Kaiden Guhle, he play better and better each game he play.

 

[habdynasty]

The PK has improved 100% with Guhle out there instead of Savard. I don’t see a spot for Savard on this team anymore. The game has passed slow players by.

 

[Mrb1p]

The PK has improved 100% with Guhle out there instead of Savard. I don’t see a spot for Savard on this team anymore. The game has passed slow players by.

The spot is there for Savard because Guhle shouldn't be wasted on the PK. Hes way too valuable to block shots and do a job that average defenders can do adequately.

Guhle should be used on the PP, on the first pair and in the dying minutes. Let Xhekaj, Harris, Savard, Kova and Matheson play the PK.

 

[Vachon23]

Charlie McAvoy a good comparison? I don't see Pietreangelo or Doughty at all when watching him

He’s not Doughty I agree, I personally think he plays a similar game to Ryan Suter

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

The spot is there for Savard because Guhle shouldn't be wasted on the PK. Hes way too valuable to block shots and do a job that average defenders can do adequately.

Guhle should be used on the PP, on the first pair and in the dying minutes. Let Xhekaj, Harris, Savard, Kova and Matheson play the PK.

He’s out of line but he’s right

 

[habdynasty]

The spot is there for Savard because Guhle shouldn't be wasted on the PK. Hes way too valuable to block shots and do a job that average defenders can do adequately.

Guhle should be used on the PP, on the first pair and in the dying minutes. Let Xhekaj, Harris, Savard, Kova and Matheson play the PK.

I agree he should be on pp1. But since he’s been on the pk its been way better.

 

[Mrb1p]

I agree he should be on pp1. But since he’s been on the pk its been way better.

And that doesn't matter. Of course it's gonna be better, this kid is a legit monster. You probably could put McDavid on the PK and have positive results too, but then youd run the huge chance of losing him the whole year for something dumb like blocking a shot.

It's a no-no from me.

Lets use him there if were ever running for the cup, sure. In a losing season where the PK doens't really matter, don't. And anyway, he'd be playing too much if he did all three.

 

[Ezpz]

To be honest I think Reinbacher does end up as our #2 cause Guhle is going to be the stud #1. I'd lock him up early if he can stay healthy.

 

[Mrb1p]

To be honest I think Reinbacher does end up as our #2 cause Guhle is going to be the stud #1. I'd lock him up early if he can stay healthy.

Reinbacher has that upside too. Sad to miss on Benson and Michkov but the back end is gonna be insanely strong.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Another 1D level performance.

His impact all over the ice is noticeable all game long.

What a f***ing stud.

He is a franchise D.

I would argue he and Barron emergence are the reason for our strong start.

I agree, you can see #1 D potential already with Guhle, add to that Barron has 1st pairing potential and if that’s not enough for you Xhekaj is being told that he is more defenceman than heavy weight champ. Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t these guys 21 & 22 years old???

 

[Miller Time]

To be honest I think Reinbacher does end up as our #2 cause Guhle is going to be the stud #1. I'd lock him up early if he can stay healthy.

We're lining up to have an embarrassment of riches on D.

Guhle, RB, Barron Mailloux, Hutson, Engstrom... Each of them has a realistic shot at becoming quality top pairing dmen & the floor for each is looking like top 4 if they make it as NHL regulars.

Then you've got Harris, Xhekaj, Strubble, Trudeau, Norlinder, Konyushkov all with realistic top 4 trajectories ahead of them.


I agree, if Guhle can carry close to this level of play all season staying healthy enough to play 65-75 games, locking him up with term makes a ton of sense.

Future is Bright

 

[absolute garbage]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

 

[Redux91]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

And Boo him hard.
Wtf is this

 

[Skip Bayless]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

Strong username to post correlation

 

[David Suzuki]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

Don't interrupt a circlejerk please

 

[Mrb1p]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

Wait... Weve been looking for a 1LD since Markov left and... You want the trade the 22 YO 6'2 Aryan demi-god that plays physical, skates as fast as McDavid, can fight, has all the leadership qualities of Weber, has the shot of Weber and can playmake like Subban... for ?

Who's gonna give us a 1C for Guhle ? No-one.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Wait... Weve been looking for a 1LD since Markov left and... You want the trade the 22 YO 6'2 Aryan demi-god that plays physical, skates as fast as McDavid, can fight, has all the leadership qualities of Weber, has the shot of Weber and can playmake like Subban... for ?

Who's gonna give us a 1C for Guhle ? No-one.

Holy hyperbole Batman. Guhle does none of these things lol.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

Reinbacher has that upside too. Sad to miss on Benson and Michkov but the back end is gonna be insanely strong.

Yeah that Guhle-Reinbacher duo is way more appealing than Benson with an Anderson

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

I've tried making this point before but come playoff time the value difference between having elite forwards and elite defensemen is very noticeable. Vegas has a few PPG players like Eichel and Stone. You only need forwards good enough to capitalize on the mistakes of opponents. With elite D, you can't properly transition or defend. Goaltending is self evident. Elite forward most of the time under produce in the playoffs compared to their reg season stats. Just a recent example of forwards not being as important is Jonathan marchessault who had never cracked 65 points besides the inaugural season where the whole team player wise overproduced. And he won the conn symthe. Defensemen like Guhle are much more impactful then their forward counterparts. You'll never see some above average D steal the show in the playoffs, it's always elite D that eat minutes. But JM who is not super elite won a conn Smythe.

Your opinion might be due to your perception of how playoff hockey is played. I personally believe it's about minimizing mistakes and capitalizing on opponents mistakes. Not creating like in the reg season which is why scoring is always lower come playoffs. It's dominated by D and goaltending. You just need good enough forwards who are competent enough to capitalize on mistakes. Yes they can also force mistakes but it's much more likely that the mistakes are due to defensive incompetency than offensive brilliance

Holy hyperbole Batman. Guhle does none of these things lol.

Don't regress into the Guhle apathy. You were starting to do so good

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I've tried making this point before but come playoff time the value difference between having elite forwards and elite defensemen is very noticeable. Vegas has a few PPG players like Eichel and Stone. You only need forwards good enough to capitalize on the mistakes of opponents. With elite D, you can't properly transition or defend. Goaltending is self evident. Elite forward most of the time under produce in the playoffs compared to their reg season stats. Just a recent example of forwards not being as important is Jonathan marchessault who had never cracked 65 points besides the inaugural season where the whole team player wise overproduced. And he won the conn symthe. Defensemen like Guhle are much more impactful then their forward counterparts. You'll never see some above average D steal the show in the playoffs, it's always elite D that eat minutes. But JM who is not super elite won a conn Smythe.

Your opinion might be due to your perception of how playoff hockey is played. I personally believe it's about minimizing mistakes and capitalizing on opponents mistakes. Not creating like in the reg season which is why scoring is always lower come playoffs. It's dominated by D and goaltending. You just need good enough forwards who are competent enough to capitalize on mistakes. Yes they can also force mistakes but it's much more likely that the mistakes are due to defensive incompetency than offensive brilliance


Don't regress into the Guhle apathy. You were starting to do so good

Smarten up. No he doesn’t shoot like Weber, skate like McDavid or playmake like Subban. He literally doesn’t do any of the 3. Are you guys afraid of the truth around here or does it make you feel good putting these players on ridiculously high pedestals?

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Smarten up. No he doesn’t shoot like Weber, skate like McDavid or playmake like Subban. He literally doesn’t do any of the 3. Are you guys afraid of the truth around here or does it make you feel good putting these players on ridiculously high pedestals?

I never said he does but you also have a history of not being a fan of guhles game so I pretty much view you as the opposite of what that poster jokingly said