Player Discussion Kaiden Guhle

[Mrb1p]

Holy hyperbole Batman. Guhle does none of these things lol.

I mean, he's certainly not far off.

Selon NHL edge, they both have the exact same top speed registered this season @ 22.72 mph.
Top shot speed of 87.77.

Of course it was an hyperbole, and I thought the aryan bit was kinda obvious that I was joking.

Nonetheless, he is incredibly fast, has great shooting and is a good passer.

Listen, I was wrong about him and all I do is love him, I had Barron ahead of him, it's fine to be wrong. You had Harris ahead, you were wrong. Just save face and admit he's awesome, its okay.

Yeah that Guhle-Reinbacher duo is way more appealing than Benson with an Anderson

Yeah, thats a weird one. Anderson still sucks and we need forwards.

 

[Habssince89]

Guhle is his own player. All that matters is he has the smarts and mobility to impact the game in a great way beyond points.

 

[MadMslm]

Best two game performance in his young career. Wonder if it will continu for a third game in a row.

25 and 26 minutes, looked dominant out there. 7 shots on goal, often creating those chances by himself, never scared to go deep in the zone. Really impressive showing on his part.

Not only did he look like the best player on the team, he also looked like the best player in both games.

His ability to always be in movement on the ice is crazy. Really proactive even in his own zone you see him reassessing threats all the time. His breakout passes have also been great.

It might too many minutes to eat up right now, especially because of how physical he is but he stepped up.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

McAvoy has a totally different style, and Guhle is a much better skater than he is. I can see a bit of Pietrangelo, although Pietrangelo has an incredible slap shot and Guhle doesn't.

I still remain speechless at the fact that this coaching staff thinks it's a good idea to have Xhekaj on the PP. Guhle deserves some PP time and he's our best option as a quarterback.

They're waiting for the next contract to give him PP time. I don't see what else explains their bizarre decisions.

Although: Burrows

 

[Jaynki]

They're waiting for the next contract to give him PP time. I don't see what else explains their bizarre decisions.

Although: Burrows

Do you think the PP is Burrows only? I think if anything MSL is as imputable here as his assistant.

Still, agree that we should have Guhle on the PP.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Do you think the PP is Burrows only? I think if anything MSL is as imputable here as his assistant.

Still, agree that we should have Guhle on the PP.

We could, but Matheson has been good lately on PP1, and the PP2 role for Xhekaj helps get him minutes while Guhle is better than Wifi at 5v5.

 

[Rapala]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

I'd dangle Hutson for an elite winger. But many here would trip out.

 

[Mrb1p]

We could, but Matheson has been good lately on PP1, and the PP2 role for Xhekaj helps get him minutes while Guhle is better than Wifi at 5v5.

Matheson has 12 points on the PP since he has been with the Habs. His PPG pace isn't even good for top 30 for a D.

Whats Matheson for this team ? Hes a stop gap. Guhle is the future and present.

 

[Rapala]

We could, but Matheson has been good lately on PP1, and the PP2 role for Xhekaj helps get him minutes while Guhle is better than Wifi at 5v5.

Matheson has been shit in general. Can't hold the line poor decision making can't make accurate passes holds the puck too long we all watch the same games right? Monahan is the one who has helped spark the PP with his net front play not Matheson.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

The thing is that if there's such an embarrassment of riches on the blueline, and not enough talent upfront, you have to take some of that surplus and do some trading.

I know people don't want to hear this, but Guhle could be just that. He's excellent, but that makes him also very valuable. If some young high-end forward becomes available, someone like Guhle as a return would be very attractive.

None of those other assets at least of yet would be enough to pull off a deal like that. Neither is Matheson. But Guhle does have that kind of value. It would hurt to trade a player like that, but it could be the right move.

Man you carry your name well

 

[Mrb1p]

Matheson has been shit in general. Can't hold the line poor decision making can't make accurate passes holds the puck too long we all watch the same games right? Monahan is the one who has helped spark the PP with his net front play not Matheson.

No we don't all watch the same game.

Its funny because every single one of us in the GDT says the same thing, and then you have people that never are in GDTs that come in and just defend management no matter who it is, what it is and when it is.

I'd dangle Hutson for an elite winger. But many here would trip out.

Hutson may just be that, though.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I'd dangle Hutson for an elite winger. But many here would trip out.

Now that is something that I'd get behind. But I doubt any team would.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Do you think the PP is Burrows only? I think if anything MSL is as imputable here as his assistant.

Still, agree that we should have Guhle on the PP.

I used plural in my sentence ("they're" and their") so you should make the proper conclusion by yourself instead of asking me this useless question that is meant as a strawman. Burrows was added as a caveat.

 

[417]

Matheson has been shit in general. Can't hold the line poor decision making can't make accurate passes holds the puck too long we all watch the same games right? Monahan is the one who has helped spark the PP with his net front play not Matheson.

Agreed with Matheson…whats frustrating with him is the same things that make him good, also make him bad.

 

[LaP]

We could, but Matheson has been good lately on PP1, and the PP2 role for Xhekaj helps get him minutes while Guhle is better than Wifi at 5v5.

Hum I think Matheson has been awful on the PP1 specially against Vegas where he killed many plays. He'd be fine for PP2 but as a PP1 quarterback it's pretty bad.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I never said he does but you also have a history of not being a fan of guhles game so I pretty much view you as the opposite of what that poster jokingly said

I’ve long since turned the corner on Guhle, he’s a player, I was wrong. This isn’t hard to do, I don’t tie myself to positions that can’t be supported forever. I didn’t see the offensive upside, I still think there are limits there, but it is good enough to be top pairing imo.

In the wake of new evidence, I change my mind. You should try it.

 

[CHwest]

I'd dangle Hutson for an elite winger. But many here would trip out.

Before I did that I would try Hutson as a winger. There is no disputing he has some very rare skills.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I’ve long since turned the corner on Guhle, he’s a player, I was wrong. This isn’t hard to do, I don’t tie myself to positions that can’t be supported forever. I didn’t see the offensive upside, I still think there are limits there, but it is good enough to be too pairing imo.

In the wake of new evidence, I change my mind. You should try it.

I do. For example, I had wright no. 1 for a while. WeThreeKings convinced me to put Cooley at 1. Thank goodness I saw the light. I was probably the first poster on here to declare Guhle as a future top pairing D when he was early on in his D+1 year. But I have never said he'll be an offensive dynamo. I've also called out his faults even how minor they may be. The poster above was obviously being tongue and cheek and you took it way too serious. The messanger, specifically for a Guhle post (meaning you) was just wrong and seemed combative especially considering your past even if you've changed your mind which I sincerely believe you have

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Matheson has 12 points on the PP since he has been with the Habs. His PPG pace isn't even good for top 30 for a D.

Whats Matheson for this team ? Hes a stop gap. Guhle is the future and present.

I mean I don't see Guhle as a staple on the PP1 going forward if Hutson is on the team. Even Reinbacher might end up a better special teams player than Guhle. Then you have the possibility of Mailloux. Point is Guhle will probably be an afterthought on the PP but it's fine considering that MSL will utilize him in as many instances and situations (apart from PP) as humanly possible especially as he gets older

 

[WeThreeKings]

I mean I don't see Guhle as a staple on the PP1 going forward if Hutson is on the team. Even Reinbacher might end up a better special teams player than Guhle. Then you have the possibility of Mailloux. Point is Guhle will probably be an afterthought on the PP but it's fine considering that MSL will utilize him in as many instances and situations (apart from PP) as humanly possible especially as he gets older

He's gonna eat ES and PK minutes for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

[Mrb1p]

I mean I don't see Guhle as a staple on the PP1 going forward if Hutson is on the team. Even Reinbacher might end up a better special teams player than Guhle. Then you have the possibility of Mailloux. Point is Guhle will probably be an afterthought on the PP but it's fine considering that MSL will utilize him in as many instances and situations (apart from PP) as humanly possible especially as he gets older

Why not? He can gain the zone better than any of these. He shoots as good as RB and a bit worse than Mailoux. He can playmake, and he can stickhandle.

He should 100% be on the PP. None of the guys you mentioned are even close to the NHL.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Why not? He can gain the zone better than any of these. He shoots as good as RB and a bit worse than Mailoux. He can playmake, and he can stickhandle.

He should 100% be on the PP. None of the guys you mentioned are even close to the NHL.

Guhle’s got an underrated shot but Mailloux’s is pretty special. I’m being a bit nitpicky there but I agree Guhle’s offense is PP worthy

 

[Mrb1p]

Guhle’s got an underrated shot but Mailloux’s is pretty special. I’m being a bit nitpicky there but I agree Guhle’s offense is PP worthy

No nitpick about this. He shouldnt be on the PK and he should be used as a PP and ES D like every other 1D in the league.

Its only in MTL that we try to reinvent the fkn wheel. So annoying.

 

[Scriptor]

Agreed with Matheson…whats frustrating with him is the same things that make him good, also make him bad.

That's funny because, the way Matheson is playing, what he brings the rebuild as a good veteran with the kids, etc., Ihaven't once caught myself thinking,"What's frustrating about Matheson..."

No frustrations with, or because of this guy. None whatsoever.

Wasted energy complaining about this player.

No nitpick about this. He shouldnt be on the PK and he should be used as a PP and ES D like every other 1D in the league.

Its only in MTL that we try to reinvent the fkn wheel. So annoying.

So, basically, reading all the posts in every thread, you're outraged about everything Montreal does?

This rebuild must be Shangrila to you?

 

[417]

That's funny because, the way Matheson is playing, what he brings the rebuild as a good veteran with the kids, etc., Ihaven't once caught myself thinking,"What's frustrating about Matheson..."

No frustrations with, or because of this guy. None whatsoever.

Wasted energy complaining about this player.

So in other words you find he's a flawless player and should be spared of any critique?

I don’t think he should be traded as many have advanced, I'm a fan of the player and think he brings way more positive than negative to this team.

I just find he's guilty of trying to do too much at times and he needs to find a better balance between being aggressive and knowing when to be aggressive.

Sometimes less is more, he himself has been on record as saying thats something he needs to constantly work on. He tends to over complicate things on the ice when often time, the simple play is the best play.

Seems reasonable to me. I’m not quite sure how you took that post of mine that you quoted as me “complaining”, but it is sensitive times round’ these parts…