Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

[Psycho for Perreault]

So far looks like the Zibanejad-Kreider pairing at 5v5 is what is unproductive.

Kakko will be fine on line 3 away from them. Line looked good today.

 

[Hockeyplayer99]

I think its time we think about our next move with Wheeler.. Rather have Brodz up here playing than Wheeler. Than when Othman is ready its his turn to take over. Wheeler does nothing, doesn't hit, doesn't score. He is a skating zombie

 

[huerter]

I think its time we think about our next move with Wheeler.. Rather have Brodz up here playing than Wheeler. Than when Othman is ready it’s his turn to take over. Wheeler does nothing, doesn't hit, doesn't score. He is a skating zombie

In the kakko thread?

 

[NYRangers0723]

So far looks like the Zibanejad-Kreider pairing at 5v5 is what is unproductive.

Mika off to a slow start but will heat up. Kreider still has 9 goals in 12 games so can’t complain too much lol. As much as I like Kakko the kid needs to produce this is year 5

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

Mika off to a slow start but will heat up. Kreider still has 9 goals in 12 games so can’t complain too much lol. As much as I like Kakko the kid needs to produce this is year 5

That is ignoring the main idea. Kreider is doing that on the PP. Mika will eventually heat up.....on the PP. ALL of them have done nothing 5v5 offensively.

 

[Fitzy]

Mika off to a slow start but will heat up. Kreider still has 9 goals in 12 games so can’t complain too much lol. As much as I like Kakko the kid needs to produce this is year 5

If he's a third liner, he's a third liner. Its not a Kravtsov situation, the kid is clearly an NHL player.

But if a 3rd liner is all he will be in this system, is does make him a potential trade chip moving forward.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I feel like we go through this at the beginning of almost every season.

He ends up coming around eventually.

FWIW, I've liked his work on the PK this year.

 

[NYRangers0723]

That is ignoring the main idea. Kreider is doing that on the PP. Mika will eventually heat up.....on the PP. ALL of them have done nothing 5v5 offensively.

Agree to Disagree

 

[mas0764]

Mika off to a slow start but will heat up. Kreider still has 9 goals in 12 games so can’t complain too much lol. As much as I like Kakko the kid needs to produce this is year 5

But all Kreider’s production is on the PP. 7 of his 9 goals are PP or SH.

 

[NYRangers0723]

But all Kreider’s production is on the PP. 7 of his 9 goals are PP or SH.

Ok but once again if he is still producing like he has and we’re winning who gives a crap. Still early so it will even out but like I said complaining about 9 goals in 12 is a tad bit silly

 

[McRanger92]

Ok but once again if he is still producing like he has and we’re winning who gives a crap. Still early so it will even out but like I said complaining about 9 goals in 12 is a tad bit silly

Do power play goals count for less or something? A goal is a goal. And the Rangers PP has been consistently good for 3 seasons now. Its not flukey.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Do power play goals count for less or something? A goal is a goal. And the Rangers PP has been consistently good for 3 seasons now. Its not flukey.

Bingo. Has that line been phenomenal 5 on 5? No but CK and Mika are still producing even though Mika hasn’t heated up scoring wise just yet.

 

[McRanger92]

Bingo. Has that line been phenomenal 5 on 5? No but CK and Mika are still producing even though Mika hasn’t heated up scoring wise just yet.

They are also elite penalty killers together. Could've had a goal or 2 on the PK if not for some great saves by Husso.

 

[mas0764]

Ok but once again if he is still producing like he has and we’re winning who gives a crap. Still early so it will even out but like I said complaining about 9 goals in 12 is a tad bit silly

We are talking about why Kakko isn’t producing. “Kreider and Zibanejad are producing” isn’t an indictment on Kakko if they are only producing on the PP.

 

[Callafan24]

Not making any excuses, but I'd like to see Kakko play against other teams' 3rd and 4th lines for a few games.

Opposing teams are best served matching up against the Mika and Panarin lines. Could help Kakko drive play on his line. I'd like to see him go to the net more often.

 

[mas0764]

Like we were saying about Laf earlier in the offseason, Kakko could still have a Kreider-like career in terms of quality (not style). 40 points at age 21 trumps Kreider’s 37 points at age 22.

That would be tremendously disappointing but still a useful player.

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

Kakko was swapped off line 1. We are talking about.....line 1. Kreider scoring pp goals has nothing to do with......line 1.

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills.

 

[NYRangers0723]

We are talking about why Kakko isn’t producing. “Kreider and Zibanejad are producing” isn’t an indictment on Kakko if they are only producing on the PP.

I never said it was an indictment on Kakko but sooner or later the kid needs to produce. I’m not comparing him to Hughes but he was highly touted and hasn’t put it together yet which is fine because it take different times per each player but I think putting it on the other two when they play important roles in all 3 zones and are producing is a stretch

 

[LionsHeart]

I’d like to see him back with Chytil when he returns. Those two have legit chemistry.

That Kreider-Zibanejad line just hasn’t been the same since Buch was traded. At some point something has to give with them.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Kakko was swapped off line 1. We are talking about.....line 1. Kreider scoring pp goals has nothing to do with......line 1.

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills.

Well the first step is admitting you have a problem lol

 

[mas0764]

I never said it was an indictment on Kakko but sooner or later the kid needs to produce. I’m not comparing him to Hughes but he was highly touted and hasn’t put it together yet which is fine because it take different times per each player but I think putting it on the other two when they play important roles in all 3 zones and are producing is a stretch

Ok but I said the Kreider-Zibanejad pairing AT 5V5 was unproductive, to which you responded Kreider has 9 goals. Yeah, but they are almost all ST goals.

It’s fair to assume the course of this conversation isn’t that Kakko does eventually need to produce (we all agree with that) but to point out that Zibanejad and Kreider, for all their ST excellence, have also struggled to put up 5v5 numbers this year and that is assuredly part of the problem.

Kakko has fine metrics. He’s just not producing. Neither are the two big money players, they are just feasting on special teams.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Ok but I said the Kreider-Zibanejad pairing AT 5V5 was unproductive, to which you responded Kreider has 9 goals. Yeah, but they are almost all ST goals.

It’s fair to assume the course of this conversation isn’t that Kakko does eventually need to produce (we all agree with that) but to point out that Zibanejad and Kreider, for all their ST excellence, have also struggled to put up 5v5 numbers this year and that is assuredly part of the problem.

Kakko has fine metrics. He’s just not producing. Neither are the two big money players, they are just feasting on special teams.

Agree to Disagree

 

[will1066]

 

[bhamill]

When Chytil comes back, put the kid line back together. He looked his best on that line in his short career.

Nope. There is no way Laf and Pan should get broken up at this point. First player to mesh with Pan since Strome...
I like Cuylle-Tro (or even Chytil)-KK as a line. A LOT. At least in theory. Would have to see how it works.

 

[will1066]

Nope. There is no way Laf and Pan should get broken up at this point. First player to mesh with Pan since Strome...
I like Cuylle-Tro (or even Chytil)-KK as a line. A LOT. At least in theory. Would have to see how it works.

Hoping people noticed this. Cuylle was always within distance of supporting Kakko on the cycle. He did not have to dish the puck with someone 30 feet away or wire it around to the other side of the zone for a teammate.