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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Calgary Flames and Carolina Hurricanes were still heavily involved in his development. Prospect camp in 2016 followed by bi-weekly/monthly communication with the NHL organization while playing for Harvard.
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Meh. Harvard developed him. He went to one prospect camp, whats that usually 4 days? And he talked to the team once a month or so? Those must have been amazing emails and phone calls. After which he didn’t want to sign with them, what an ingrate after all that investment.
I said “I still consider Fox homegrown” and gave my reasons. You are not doing a good job convincing me otherwise and I’m not sure why you feel the need to. I didn’t say you had to feel that way or even ask you to.
But the other guys are right: Kakko thread So this is the last I’ll say about it here.
 
bhamill said:
Meh. Harvard developed him. He went to one prospect camp, whats that usually 4 days? And he talked to the team once a month or so? Those must have been amazing emails and phone calls. After which he didn’t want to sign with them, what an ingrate after all that investment.
I said “I still consider Fox homegrown” and gave my reasons. You are not doing a good job convincing me otherwise and I’m not sure why you feel the need to. I didn’t say you had to feel that way or even ask you to.
But the other guys are right: Kakko thread So this is the last I’ll say about it here.
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Imagine thinking they only call them and send emails. Jesus f***ing Christ.
 
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Imagine arguing about this in the other kid’s thread, an hour after we just went up 2-0 on the 2x defending champs in the ECF, with Swiss cheese in the West.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Imagine thinking they only call them and send emails. Jesus f***ing Christ.
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Holy f*** dude. I was being sarcastic, hyperbolic as to their lack of involvement, which I guess you have concretely documented judging by your reaction. I really enjoy your posts on here but you can really get hung up on stupid shit. I get it, you think Calgary and Carolina made him the player is is today. I don’t need you to believe otherwise. Why do you need me to think the same? It’s not like he ever played for those organizations. Unless you can point me to the Official Standards of Homegrown it’s a subjective call. You do you, I’ll do me. Holy f***ing shit. Hahaha.

fm said:
Imagine arguing about this in the other kid’s thread, an hour after we just went up 2-0 on the 2x defending champs in the ECF, with Swiss cheese in the West.
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You’re right. I‘ll drop it.
 
Cuckoo4Kakko said:
So weird how Ranger fans with Kakko always have to be "great, except....."

He's in a fantastic stretch. When GG 4th lined him the 3rd line was bad. When Kakko is there they are our best line by a mile. I'll focus on the positives. I know in this thread that makes me an outlier.
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It's not like people want to have the "except" when they talk about kakko, he's earned that. I like the kids game but I'm waiting for the steps for it to go further. This is year three for him so thankfully he can actually take a regular shift in these series, but yes I want more than just that. Beautiful redirection tonight though.
 
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will1066 said:
People here don't believe teams do anything in developing players, but rather that the players develop themselves. :sarcasm:
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Yup. A lot of people believe it's one sided for some reason. It was insufferable during the whole Kravtsov fiasco. Where some thought Drury and the club could do no wrong, and the situation was fully on Kravtsov for being an impetuous and spoiled debutante. But, management and Drury had no responsibility for perhaps misleading him, or Drury calling him out in front of the entire team and all that stuff. I feel like these are the same people who fully blame teenagers for doing stupid things like they are adults and their parents have no influence.

And they like to throw out lines like "the NHL is not a developmental league". As if many players don't develop while playing in the NHL. Sure, NHL teams just have extensive coaching staffs for aesthetic purposes. And players don't require tutelage or direction. And they have AHL affiliate just because, I don't know, it's cute. And others suggest by the time players reach the NHL, they can't or don't improve their skills anymore. Like they can't get better at shooting, passing or skating once they've made it to the big show.

I honestly don't know where that perspective comes from. But it seems awfully ill informed whenever it comes up. It's like the old, and outdated "nature vs nurture" debate. There are still countless people who like to argue one or the other, for various political, social and ideological reasons/agendas. When the answer, based on reality, science and objectivity, is so obviously BOTH, the dynamic between the two. And similarly, the NHL and NHL prospect, or really, players in general, have a partnership. And players have such partnerships which each team or affiliate they play for, from Jrs, college, all the way through to the NHL. And it so obviously means both sides interact to develop players. Heck, I feel like Kreider has been "developing" for like 8 years now.
 
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3 primary points in the last 3 games. Love the way he meshes with his line. It’s funny he was the odds on favorite to come out of the lineup on Goodrow’s Game 7 return. Gutsy move by Gallant to take Rooney out instead and it’s certainly made a difference.
 
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It seems every time he lets me believe, he lets me down, especially after I draw Hossa comps. So, for that reason, I have never been a bigger skeptic. Or at least that’s my story.
 
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