Luke DeCock: Justin Faulk Speculation

[Roboturner913]

As long as it's not some 2nd rounder and a prospect BS

 

[Svechhammer]

More likely the Canes leaking that (even if untrue) to try to get Anaheim and Faulk to get an extension done.

It's Anaheim or the coldest most depressing city not on the NTC.

Your move, Faulk

 

[Ole Gil]

I'd rather have Faulk than a kase. The team has 8 top 6 at least. And 12 top 9. And a couple guys knocking on the door.

The forwards are deeper than the D now for good nhl talent now, I think.

Priskie and Bean could change that, but it's a gamble that seems unnecessary.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Bidding war?

The reaction on here if this ended with Faulk signing an extension with the Canes would be legendary.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

The reaction on here if this ended with Faulk signing an extension with the Canes would be legendary.

1200 Hamilton rumors would start 5 seconds after the news release and at least 1000 Pesce rumors too.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Bidding war?

I would expect that is the reason a normally tight sealed FO allowed this to come to the surface. They wanted a better offers.

 

[AD Skinner]

Dang... last week I wouldn't even have expected an offer with a piece with as much potential as Kase. A bidding war could be nutso in a good way

 

[My Special Purpose]

It's Anaheim or the coldest most depressing city not on the NTC.

Your move, Faulk

Donnie Wads with the BDE move. Well-played. This will get done tonight.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Honest question does Faulk at any number between 6.5m - 7m making him our highest paid defender seem attractive to anyone here? Cause its a big no from me.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I gotta tell you,living somewhere rent free feels great, even if it's just Montreal's heads

Dundon so cheap he's able to live rent free in the most expensive city in Canada

and he doesn't even have to wait until Moving Day!

Montreal Canadiens Need To Offer Jeff Petry For Ondrej Kase

 

[MinJaBen]

Montreal Canadiens Need To Offer Jeff Petry For Ondrej Kase

So good, it deserves to be reposted 48 posts later.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

More likely the Canes leaking that (even if untrue) to try to get Anaheim and Faulk to get an extension done.

Yeah, that smells like bullshit to me. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Navin R Slavin]

The reaction on here if this ended with Faulk signing an extension with the Canes would be legendary.

I would lol. Because you know it wouldn't be for more than $5m/year.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Like, how is it possible that we've got too many good players?

Literally the only thing left to do is to flip some good players for a great player.

 

[My Special Purpose]

So good, it deserves to be reposted 48 posts later.

Oops. Thought we were still dunking on them for the Gardiner turned down a better deal from Montreal story, but that was so yesterday.

 

[Roboturner913]

The reaction on here if this ended with Faulk signing an extension with the Canes would be legendary.

"Canes keep Faulk! Defenseman signs new 4 year, $16 million deal! Waddell trades Haydn Fleury, 5th round pick to Anaheim for Kase"

 

[Navin R Slavin]

"Canes keep Faulk! Defenseman signs new 4 year, $16 million deal! Waddell trades Haydn Fleury, 5th round pick to Anaheim for Kase"

This made me LOL.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Honest question does Faulk at any number between 6.5m - 7m making him our highest paid defender seem attractive to anyone here? Cause its a big no from me.

It depends on term. 5-8 years at that price is a no for one of the few Faulk defenders on the board. 3-4 years is justifiable, imo. That's better than paying Hamilton $8 mil or more on a max term deal or thereabouts.

 

[Svechhammer]

"Canes keep Faulk! Defenseman signs new 4 year, $16 million deal! Waddell trades Haydn Fleury, 5th round pick to Anaheim for Kase"

There's a South Park gif where Randy is... Ummm... Hopping around on his... Umm... Balls... That would be appropriate if that happened

 

[Svechhammer]

It depends on term. 5-8 years at that price is a no for one of the few Faulk defenders on the board. 3-4 years is justifiable, imo. That's better than paying Hamilton $8 mil or more on a max term deal or thereabouts.

Yeah I'm sorry... A contract that pays Faulk over $1m AAV more than any of our other defenders for any extended period of time is a big nopes from me. Especially when those other defenders are Slavin, Hamilton, Pesce, and Gardiner

 

[My Special Purpose]

I'd rather have Faulk than a kase. The team has 8 top 6 at least. And 12 top 9. And a couple guys knocking on the door.

The forwards are deeper than the D now for good nhl talent now, I think.

Priskie and Bean could change that, but it's a gamble that seems unnecessary.

According to many (mostly stats-focused) folks in the media, we already have the best top four in the league on defense. Add to that a guy who is quite possibly the best third-pairing d-man in the league (TvR) and I'm pretty sure one of us can be our sixth d-man and we'd still have one of the best defensive units in the league. But as it is, we can choose between a former No. 7 overall pick (Fleury), a former No. 13 overall pick (Bean), a Hobey Baker finalist (Priskie), a guy who played big minutes in the SHL at age 19 (Sellgren), Gustav Forsling or Roland McKeown for that spot. And that's *without* Faulk.

We're pretty deep at forward, but not *that* deep. Although, it's pretty close.

It's a really great problem to have.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

Anyone find it weird that we'd send out CDH because of injury worries but might take on Kase with different injury worries?

 

[My Special Purpose]

Starting to think Faulk to Anaheim won't happen

What he gains from a list like mine is control. He is not going anywhere he doesn't want to go because the options he gave the team are not realistic options unless the team cuts off its nose to spite its face. Sure, they could pay one of those teams to take him...some certainly would find a way if rewarded to do so...but the Canes management is not going to do something like that. Instead, they would do what they did with Faulk and Ferland last year and just get the value they have in him already.

It's Anaheim or the coldest most depressing city not on the NTC.

Your move, Faulk

The way the team (evidently) framed the leak to Lebrun is that Faulk has a choice of Anaheim with an extension or someplace else without one.

But Faulk's agent probably isn't worried, since a team on his trade list will probably ask for (and receive) permission to discuss an extension before giving anything up for him. Unless they make it conditional ... so the team still has a little bit of leverage here.

Yeah, this whole post was pretty much just me thinking this through and typing at the same time. But I'm not deleting it.

 

[zman77]

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Yeah I'm sorry... A contract that pays Faulk over $1m AAV more than any of our other defenders for any extended period of time is a big nopes from me. Especially when those other defenders are Slavin, Hamilton, Pesce, and Gardiner

I don't think it's fair to use long-term 2nd contracts coming out of entry-level as a benchmark for someone coming off of one of those deals. It took an extremely unfriendly market for Gardiner to sign for what he did. Hamilton may ask for twice as much as Pesce makes on a long-term deal next Summer a year away from UFA. That's not the way to evaluate it.

A raise for Faulk is fine, if they're getting a shorter commitment out of it, imo.