Value of: Justin Barron for a F

[Faceboner]

I like the Petry comparaison, but not Beaulieu/Hainsey.
Barron has a great shot and relatively good IQ, but he can be soft at times physically and mentally (just like Petry). Sometimes he look like stud, some times he looks like he's playing pond hockey. I think he has a relatively good chance to become what Petry was.


Screenshot or this is a lie.

Or you can go look in thread yourself I don't feel the burden to provide proof

 

[Eegs]

Pelletier for Barron? Straight up?

I'd be down for that.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I don't really see much reason to move Barron right now. Mailloux still needs more time to develop in the AHL and while uneven, Barron's game has been improving. I guess if the right return was out there then it would make sense, but I don't think you're going to find a realistic offer on these boards.

Pitt/Toronto are what I really remember of Hainsey and I'm honestly floored by this comparison, he was basically a stay at home D from from Carolina on and was really solid in his own end.

On Barron,I don't think he fetches anything worthwhile on his own but I don't think he has a future in Montreal with Mailloux and Reinbacher. Hopefully someone likes him in a package for an impact forward

The Hainsey comparison is a bit of stretch, but it took him a while to become reliable defensively.

Jets could use more RHD prospect depth, I don't consider Barron a proven NHL player at this early stage. I could see the Jets offering Chaz Lucius, who is still a promising prospect, similar draft position, two years younger then Barron, neither player is a blue chip prospect, both have similar potential (2nd pairing D & 2nd line forward).

I think Montreal would probably prefer to keep Barron in that case. Not a knock on Lucius, but he's not as far along as Barron was at the same stage, and the last think Montreal needs is another decent prospect with durability concerns

 

[Nevins]

When Barron is focused is defensive game is fine, but he sometimes forget he's playing in the NHL. He has the capacity to be good on both ends of the ice, dealing with consistency/concentration issues. Which is true for many players... how much he can stay focused and be consistent will be the difference between 2nd pairing defenseman or 6-7.

Defenseman reach their peak around 27-29 years old.....

 

[pth2]

Or you can go look in thread yourself I don't feel the burden to provide proof

ie, you lied.

 

[Faceboner]

ie, you lied.

I don't care enough about the Habs to make up a lie

 

[Nevins]

I'd be down for that.

Not me. Pelletier is another small player(5’9’’). We already have Caufield,Gally,Pinard,Mesar,Farell…

 

[pth2]

I don't really see much reason to move Barron right now. Mailloux still needs more time to develop in the AHL and while uneven, Barron's game has been improving. I guess if the right return was out there then it would make sense, but I don't think you're going to find a realistic offer on these boards.

I know it's early, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him moved (directly or indirectly) to get a forward with upside, probably at the draft.

I don't think Montreal can wait until Mailloux or Hutson have shown PP QB potential before moving Barron.

And I know these boards aren't exactly objective, but I just love the idea that fans could come up with a trade and then see it happen in real life, because we know our respective teams, and can find something that makes sense. (not that the GMs do it because we thought of it, just that we can come up with something that makes sense, hence it could happen for real)

 

[jfhabs]

Or you can go look in thread yourself I don't feel the burden to provide proof

Lie it is

 

[Faceboner]

Lie it is

Or its not and you can believe whatever floats your boat and gets you to sleep at night

 

[EveryDay]

He's probably not going to be much of a difference maker this season. Will he be a full-time player for the Habs next season, or will he be on waivers?

Are you thinking before writing your posts on this board? Honest question since you seems clueless most of the time.

 

[TT1]

I'd be down for that.

Habs won't trade for another undersized forward, we need to get bigger not smaller

as a base i'd do something around Holtz (RW is a big need for us), we could add a sweetener to balance it out

 

[Tommy Shelby]

You can have Ryan Johansen for him

 

[Hunter368]

trade him to 'peg for his brother

Not comparing values, but the Jets are very happy with their Barron, no interest in trading him. Jets want to add to the team this year and/or next, aka by adding to RHD depth. I see Barron from the Habs as a potential 2nd pairing RHD, never a top pairing guy. The Jets might be interested in him, but not at the cost of a current roster player.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I know it's early, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him moved (directly or indirectly) to get a forward with upside, probably at the draft.

I don't think Montreal can wait until Mailloux or Hutson have shown PP QB potential before moving Barron.

And I know these boards aren't exactly objective, but I just love the idea that fans could come up with a trade and then see it happen in real life, because we know our respective teams, and can find something that makes sense. (not that the GMs do it because we thought of it, just that we can come up with something that makes sense, hence it could happen for real)

Fans only really get close on trade suggestions when a player or players are rumoured (by reputable insiders) to be available/shopped/moved and the overlappingrealistic members of fanbases are interacting.

I just don't see Barron being moved yet, mostly because I don't think he's a player for whom teams would be willing to give up somebody Montreal would want. Like, due respect to guys like Pelletier and Lucius, but those kind of guys aren't really worth the effort for Montreal over just continuing with Barron (Montreal has a deep bench of young forwards with injury issues, no reason to add more there).

If he's moved, it would be part of bigger deal, but one for one isn't worth it.

 

[jfhabs]

Or its not and you can believe whatever floats your boat and gets you to sleep at night

Keep making stuff up if it helps you sleep at night

 

[CanMerc]

Jets could use more RHD prospect depth, I don't consider Barron a proven NHL player at this early stage. I could see the Jets offering Chaz Lucius, who is still a promising prospect, similar draft position, two years younger then Barron, neither player is a blue chip prospect, both have similar potential (2nd pairing D & 2nd line forward).

I’d be ok with this… Barron would be a good depth add for the playoffs

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Defenseman reach their peak around 27-29 years old.....

 

[Faceboner]

Keep making stuff up if it helps you sleep at night

I mean I didn't, why does it bother you so much

 

[habsfan44]

Montreal has a *lot* of young D, including RD Mailloux who is doing well in the AHL and RD Reinbacher who they invested a top 5 draft position in.

Currently, with Savard and Kovacevic doing ok, and Guhle showing the ability to play RD, I wonder if Justin Barron might be available. He's still very raw, but also has high end offensive skills, and has 29 points in his first 84 NHL games. I see his upside as being Petry in his prime, with a floor of the Hainsey/Beaulieu type (offensively gifted but never a solid proposition in his zone).

Montreal is looking at ways to convert their relative richness in D into more skill up front (like the Romanov-Dach series of deals) and yesterday GM Kent Hughes mentionned this kind of deal as being the way forward to add skill to the forward corps.

So, which reasonably skilled forwards might be available for a 6'2 22 year old skilled RD ? I'm assuming Montreal might add spare parts or take some back, I'm not interested in balancing out value so much as who might be obtained (ie, who adds a 2nd rounder is secondary)

Holtz from NJ ?
Greig from Ottawa ?
Cutter Gauthier might have been a consideration if he'd been willing to sign in Canada (apparently he wasn't)
Coronato, so Calgary can have some future on D once the UFAs are moved out ?

Let's go off the assumption the main piece has to be from the 2018 draft or later - Montreal is looking for a lateral move for a similar age forward. Deal could take place any time from now until the draft.

Habs management specifically targeted Barron in the Lehkonen trade , I don't think they're going to give up on him as quickly as you might think .

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

i think we're better off keeping him for now our RD depth is pretty weak after Reinbacher and Mailloux and we're still not even sure what we have with those 2

 

[pth2]

Habs management specifically targeted Barron in the Lehkonen trade , I don't think they're going to give up on him as quickly as you might think .

Well, I don't consider moving him for a top-6 forward to be giving up on him.... moving him for a random pick for no good reason, or a far-off prospect, would be giving up.

For example, I don't consider that management gave up on Romanov.

That being said, I know this thread is premature and any such move would take place this summer (with Savard not having been moved, Reinbacher doing well early on in the AHL, Mailloux still progressing, Guhle having played more games as a RD, etc.)

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So your saying not everyone hates Habs players/prospects on the main boards?

See what I did there?

@Gaylord Q Tinkledink

As a hab fan I even hate hab prospects at times because the few annoying people are a lot of annoying people in a bigger fanbase and think everyone who does decent is a stud.

 

[ole ole]

Way overvalue and overestimate their players I saw someone say that armia was worth a first

Some ONE. Now ONE = A whole fan base.

 

[ole ole]

Jets could use more RHD prospect depth, I don't consider Barron a proven NHL player at this early stage. I could see the Jets offering Chaz Lucius, who is still a promising prospect, similar draft position, two years younger then Barron, neither player is a blue chip prospect, both have similar potential (2nd pairing D & 2nd line forward).

No room for Chaz and Barron is a lot more proven than Lucius.