Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[NORiculous]

Jack Hughes got started for real in the 2nd half of his second season.

Jack Hughes had and has way more offensive potential than any current Habs though.

 

[cave troll]

Holding guys back? You'd think Slaf would go in the AHL and have the offense that a guy like Roy does? That he'd fine the level too easy? Small minority of athletes? As in..most? What's the percentage of guys that starts in the NHL at 18 years old?

Can people make the difference between not having players in the AHL at all yet, their 1st season in the NHL is at 20 or 21 and what Slaf had to deal with?

Yeah, I see too the difference between Mesar and Slaf. Reason why I have no problem sending Mesar in Juniors while I'm saying to put Slaf on a 1st line in the AHL, playing top quality minutes including the PP.

Yep.
Ovechkin came to NHL at 20 after 4 seasons in KHL. Malkin came at 21 after 3 seasons in KHL and those two at 18-19 were twice the players Slaf is now.
Keeping Slaf in Liiga could have helped him. Kakko came when we was not even 19 and was lost in time and space.
USA/CAN players that come form CHL/NCAA at 19 seems to have an easier entry into the NHL world.

 

[DAChampion]

The discussion here is quite different from that when Galchenyuk was a young player.

AG27 had outstanding production, but worries began to accumulate about his weak defensive play and some of his lazy habits like not moving often enough.

With Slaf, he's not producing, but the fundamentals appear more positive.

 

[DAChampion]

Jack Hughes had and has way more offensive potential than any current Habs though.

Jack Hughes is another level. I'd say he's one level short of generational talent, not on par with guys like Crosby and McDavid but on par with guys like Kane, Stamkos, and Draisatl, and ahead of guys like Hall, Hossa, Matthews, and Tavares. Whatever that level is called.

 

[Tabarouette]

Jack Hughes is another level. I'd say he's one level short of generational talent, not on par with guys like Crosby and McDavid but on par with guys like Kane, Stamkos, and Draisatl, and ahead of guys like Hall, Hossa, Matthews, and Tavares. Whatever that level is called.

I think it's called "what the Canadiens will never have", officially

 

[ReHabs]

He very clearly looks different today than he did last year. It’s obvious that the team wanted him to learn from Marty, as opposed to any other coach. Look at what good coaching is doing to KK, another big awkward Liiga player that came to the NHL “too early”.

It could be the case that the organization entrusted the development of the highly problematic 1OA to a rookie coach who’s only coached peewee but that doesn’t make it a good decision.

People just need to be patient. He’s obviously taking steps in the right direction. This whole “need to learn the system” posts about his time in Finland is grasping at straws. The kid is not chasing the play like last year and actually looks for more options than his first when he has the puck on his stick. It’s night and day compared to his rookie season.

How much did you trash Kotkaniemi? Don’t preach patience. It’s not about patience but rather being honest.

He’s improved somewhat from last year, it doesn’t mean he’s anywhere close to optimal.

LOL, you misspelled 'drawback'.

I disagree.

 

[Trabdy2]

Slaf's passing and pass reception both need more consistency. A lot more plays are dying on his stick than I'd like to see. Maybe it's nerves, but hopefully his hands settle down a bit on the passing front.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Slaf's passing and pass reception both need more consistency. A lot more plays are dying on his stick than I'd like to see. Maybe it's nerves, but hopefully his hands settle down a bit on the passing front.

I thought last game was his best in terms of pass receptions and first touches.

 

[SlafySZN]

Who cares if he’s improving in every facets of his game it would only be true if he got 3 points instead of 1 because we all know points tells the whole story, especially 5 games in.

 

[Mrb1p]

The discussion here is quite different from that when Galchenyuk was a young player.

AG27 had outstanding production, but worries began to accumulate about his weak defensive play and some of his lazy habits like not moving often enough.

With Slaf, he's not producing, but the fundamentals appear more positive.

Slaf doesnt have good fundamentals, hes just so far behind the NHL that wr cant even evaluate them. He gets lost in simple reads like yesterday on Cozens 2nd shot.

's passing and pass reception both need more consistency. A lot more plays are dying on his stick than I'd like to see. Maybe it's nerves, but hopefully his hands settle down a bit on the passing front.

Ya he needs puck touches. He needs to have the puck on his stick. Hes frankly horrible with the puck. His shots, passes and handles were a joke yesterday. Thats a first overall pick for crying out loud, why is he in the NHL?

 

[Tabarouette]

 

[Mrb1p]

Who cares if he’s improving in every facets of his game it would only be true if he got 3-4 points instead of 1 because we all know points tells the whole story, especially 5 games in.

Hes not.

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Lmaoooo

 

[DAChampion]

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Leblanc was in his D+3.

 

[Tabarouette]

fine i'll update it at the end of next year when he's with the coyotes

 

[OnTheRun]

KK did sign Aug 28th so his date was off. Other two are correct.

Canes tried to trade for him first? That's a rumor. Possibly true but we don't know that for sure do we? You can assume so I guess

Correct in what way? How are those 3 related? They reached their RFA status on 3 different year. KK was 2021, Dach was 2022 and Newhook was 2023.

That's just how it was reported, it wasn't the first time either they came inquiring about KK. So yeah, you can call it a rumor because you weren't in the room to witness it, but it's not really one.

 

[Heffyhoof]

serious question for all the people who think Slaf look great, at what point is it important to you that his play translate to points? Will you change your mind at 1-3 points in 20 games? 5 points in 40? Just wondering

Probably when it's closer to game 36 then it is to game 6...

 

[Mrb1p]

Probably when it's closer to game 36 then it is to game 6...

So were gonna waste 6 more months of development because "its too early to see".

 

[SlafySZN]

Hes not.

He is.

 

[Mrb1p]

He is.

Blind cheerleading, at best.

You would look at vids of him in Liiga and him right now and you'd see very little difference between the two.

The difference would be that in Liiga he actually looked like he had offensive talent, here he looks like he's bound to be an ECHL player.

 

[Sorinth]

serious question for all the people who think Slaf look great, at what point is it important to you that his play translate to points? Will you change your mind at 1-3 points in 20 games? 5 points in 40? Just wondering

I wouldn't say I think he looks great, but I do think he's looked relatively good.

For me this year points are pretty much irrelevant this year, it's more a question of whether he's improving his overall play or not. I would probably look at 10-20 game samples in that regard, and I wouldn't be measuring it by points, though chances generated would probably be a one of many factors.

If he's improving and developing over the course of the season nothing else really matters much.

 

[Sorinth]

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The ironic part here is that it most likely would have turned out better for Leblanc if we kept him in the NHL instead of sending him down to the AHL.

 

[SlafySZN]

Blind cheerleading, at best.

You would look at vids of him in Liiga and him right now and you'd see very little difference between the two.

The difference would be that in Liiga he actually looked like he had offensive talent, here he looks like he's bound to be an ECHL player.

You, rehabs, and maybe 1-2 others are the only one thinking that. Maybe it’s blind hate at this point or an inability to be objective.

 

[Tabarouette]

You, rehabs, and maybe 1-2 others are the only one thinking that. Maybe it’s blind hate at this point.

I think the vast majority of people are actually indifferent, because he is extremely forgettable on the ice.

mid as the kids would say

 

[River Meadow]

The discussion here is quite different from that when Galchenyuk was a young player.

AG27 had outstanding production, but worries began to accumulate about his weak defensive play and some of his lazy habits like not moving often enough.

With Slaf, he's not producing, but the fundamentals appear more positive.

Do they?

 

[Shutdown]

Blind cheerleading, at best.

You would look at vids of him in Liiga and him right now and you'd see very little difference between the two.

The difference would be that in Liiga he actually looked like he had offensive talent, here he looks like he's bound to be an ECHL player.

I don't understand how you expect people to take what you say seriously with takes like this one, not to mention the fact that you seem to really take a lot of joy from criticizing Slafkovsky's play.