Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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Pazucha

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He doesn't know where Savard is, doesn't know where Newhook is so there's no way he was not anticipating a pass for a one timer.
He is literally looking at Savard what are you talking about?

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I think he was trying to shoot but saying that he doesnt know where Savard is is really bad take.

Here is example where he intentionally let the puck slip.
 
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Pazucha

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I am still dissapointed at what he did on the PP... First time in 10 attempts Gallagher doesnt *** up something and they finally settle in the offensive zone and Slaf takes that stupid penalty.
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417

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man these good shifts, good periods... who gives?

He needs to play top minutes in the pro league, AHL just like Pacioretty did, Pacioretty cameback a better player, until he got the C and dropped the ball hard but thats irrelevant.


Man just look at this play here.. he's too slow in the head to process whats going on. The pass goes right through him... i mean shit maybe Savard was really intending to pass it to Newhook... i dont know but just watch the play a few times, he doesn't look good.



Sorry but your boy needs a ton of work

He did that intentionally, the pass went right through him because he properly identified that Savard was passing it to someone other than him given how much windup Savard had, how hard the pass was and the fact the pass was between his legs and not on his blade which he had offered as a target.

This is actually an example of processing what's going on at a very high level.

Someone might be slow in the head here,,,but it certainly ain't him.
 

waitin425

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He did that intentionally, the pass went right through him because he properly identified that Savard was passing it to someone other than him given how much windup Savard had, how hard the pass was and the fact the pass was between his legs and not on his blade which he had offered as a target.

This is actually an example of processing what's going on at a very high level.

Someone might be slow in the head here,,,but it certainly ain't him.
Are we actually arguing whether Slaf meant to let that pass on the PP go through his legs? OMG people, it is 100% clear that is what he intended. Like you said 417....this is processing at a very high level and also very creative. The only thing I remember thinking on that play was if he had of put his stick on the ice as if he was receiving the pass, or even fake a wind up, it would have made MAF hesitate that much longer and perhaps we could have scored. Otherwise I liked the play.

I thought it was his worst game this season/pre-season. But everyone stunk up the joint. Slaf still looks like an NHLer.
 

Andy

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Folks, when we are debating whether Slaf meant to let a pass through, you are over-analyzing.

No player is perfect every game. None. Every player will have bad shifts and look lost.

What I found yesterday is that other than the second half of the 3rd period, it was the first time since camp Slaf was invisible and struggled at 5 on 5. He had some great plays on the PP and at the end of the game. But overall, he had a tough game at 5 on 5.

On the aggregate since camp, this was his first bad game...which happened to coincide with everyone else having an awful game.
 

Jaynki

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No need to overanalyze every shift. But it's true his last two games are a bit disappointing considering his first game.

He is pretty good for a 19YO tho.
 
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LaP

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man these good shifts, good periods... who gives?

He needs to play top minutes in the pro league, AHL just like Pacioretty did, Pacioretty cameback a better player, until he got the C and dropped the ball hard but thats irrelevant.


Man just look at this play here.. he's too slow in the head to process whats going on. The pass goes right through him... i mean shit maybe Savard was really intending to pass it to Newhook... i dont know but just watch the play a few times, he doesn't look good.



Sorry but your boy needs a ton of work

There's no way that pass was for Slaf. If it was then it was a pretty awful pass. A pass to Slaf should have been made a good sec before. When Savard passed it was already too late to pass to Slaf.
 
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Jaynki

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There's no way that pass was for Slaf. If it was then it was a pretty awful pass. A pass to Slaf should have been made a good sec before. When Savard passed it was already too late to pass to Slaf.
Those are actually have been quite the good awareness to have let those pass flow through him.
 
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morhilane

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Who was the last 1st pick which had lesser impact on the game in his first 40- 50 games than Slaf?
Stefan?
The impact in the first 40-50 games is meaningless. Lafreniere and Jack Hughes had hard starts in the NHL. One showed zero progression, the other one is star player now.

What you want to look at is progression, especially with a player as raw as Slaf was when he joined.

Slaf have shown progression. He just need line stability and TOI to get proper reps to solidify the good habits, which has been seriously lacking with all the punitions the team gets and the injuries causing line shufflings.
 

Tyson

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The impact in the first 40-50 games is meaningless. Lafreniere and Jack Hughes had hard starts in the NHL. One showed zero progression, the other one is star player now.

What you want to look at is progression, especially with a player as raw as Slaf was when he joined.

Slaf have shown progression. He just need line stability and TOI to get proper reps to solidify the good habits, which has been seriously lacking with all the punitions the team gets and the injuries causing line shufflings.
I hope you are right but I am not optimistic with this player panning out. I am trying to stay positive, looking for glimpses of what's to come, I don't see much. Maybe it's the team in general around him. Maybe he needs to play in a lower league. He imo does not belong in the NHL and this could backfire badly.
 

417

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Folks, when we are debating whether Slaf meant to let a pass through, you are over-analyzing.

No player is perfect every game. None. Every player will have bad shifts and look lost.

What I found yesterday is that other than the second half of the 3rd period, it was the first time since camp Slaf was invisible and struggled at 5 on 5. He had some great plays on the PP and at the end of the game. But overall, he had a tough game at 5 on 5.

On the aggregate since camp, this was his first bad game...which happened to coincide with everyone else having an awful game.
Agreed,,,and I commented on that specific play against my better judgement because like you said, this is classic over-analyzing.

But if we're going to over-analyze, let's do it properly at least.
 
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morhilane

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I hope you are right but I am not optimistic with this player panning out. I am trying to stay positive, looking for glimpses of what's to come, I don't see much. Maybe it's the team in general around him. Maybe he needs to play in a lower league. He imo does not belong in the NHL and this could backfire badly.
Slaf main issue his with the speed (of execution) in the NHL, there is a large gap between the NHL and the AHL there (and between NHL teams as shown by the Wild vs Habs last game). If he gets sent down, he's not going to adapt to the NHL speed of execution at all.

MSL said it took him a year to get used to it, Slaf is at half a season played so far.
 
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he still looks like he's going to fall whenever he bumps into someone. Its weird seeing someone that big get bounced around so much
 
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He did that intentionally, the pass went right through him because he properly identified that Savard was passing it to someone other than him given how much windup Savard had, how hard the pass was and the fact the pass was between his legs and not on his blade which he had offered as a target.

This is actually an example of processing what's going on at a very high level.

Slaf believes he's getting the pass, he's got his stick on the ice the whole time, adjusts his speed with one skate. He reacts last second. You can say its good IQ but in reality that was 100% reaction time.

Someone might be slow in the head here,,,but it certainly ain't him.

Oooo dolce... don't we all love a good dose of passive aggressiveness in our daily lifes?
 

Zorro

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he still looks like he's going to fall whenever he bumps into someone. Its weird seeing someone that big get bounced around so much

i missed most the game so that's sad to hear because he looked quite solid in his first game and even perhaps the last game.
 
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Kennerback

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Slaf does some things well. But there are shortcomings to his game.

For one, he has no problem to go to the front of the net without the puck, he‘ll even take abuse. But give him the puck and he skates in periphery along the boards in the OZ. If there’s a gap to step towards the net he doesn’t take it, he prefers risking to lose possession by passing or taking low percentage shots from high in the zone.
 
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