Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[Andy]

earlier in the year, I said I successful season would be 10g and 30-35points.

He's on his way to doing that. If he could surpass those totals, that would be amazing. He's been playing so well. I really can't wait to see what he becomes in 2 years.

 

[Tabarouette]

I mean I can also set incredibly low bars and say something is successful

if I make it to 10am without crying my day will be a success

 

[Goalfield13]

Guess Who?

Player 1: 46 GP, 8 G, 17 Pts, -12, (Career 365 NHL games)
Player 2: 48 GP, 6 G, 19 Pts, -15, (Career 87 NHL games)

 

[Andy]

I mean I can also set incredibly low bars and say something is successful

if I make it to 10am without crying my day will be a success

He was drafted and publicly described as a project. Finishing with 35 points, especially after a slow start shows great progression. The stat progression also matches the one we see via our eyes.

He's looking really good out there and has 12 points in his last 19 games, or something like that. He made the first line better. He's added an additional passing threat on the PP.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Guess Who?

Player 1: 46 GP, 8 G, 17 Pts, -12, (Career 365 NHL games)
Player 2: 48 GP, 6 G, 19 Pts, -15, (Career 87 NHL games)

I get your point, but that is just disappointment in both.

 

[Goalfield13]

earlier in the year, I said I successful season would be 10g and 30-35points.

He's on his way to doing that. If he could surpass those totals, that would be amazing. He's been playing so well. I really can't wait to see what he becomes in 2 years.

35 would be good as that means 16 points in the next 34 games. I am hoping for 40pts. If they put him back with Cole and Nick once Monahan is traded, I think that is very realistic. That would be very good for a 19y/o.

 

[bcv]

I mean I can also set incredibly low bars and say something is successful

if I make it to 10am without crying my day will be a success

You sure set the bar for the quality of your posts real low.

 

[CAUFIELD]

Guess Who?

Player 1: 46 GP, 8 G, 17 Pts, -12, (Career 365 NHL games)
Player 2: 48 GP, 6 G, 19 Pts, -15, (Career 87 NHL games)

Player 1: Kotkaniemi
Player 2: slaf? But he has 85 NHL games and 18 points

 

[Goalfield13]

Player 1: Kotkaniemi
Player 2: ?

Slaf

 

[CAUFIELD]

Slaf

Y’a but the stats you put for him a bit off lol

 

[Goalfield13]

Y’a but the stats you put for him a bit off lol

How so?

 

[Redux91]

I mean I can also set incredibly low bars and say something is successful

if I make it to 10am without crying my day will be a success

Define 'incredibly low bars'
Define what your bars would be

And.. sorry about your 'problem'..

 

[Tabarouette]

Define 'incredibly low bars'
Define what your bars would be

And.. sorry about your 'problem'..

Just going back quickly to find some comparatives for 1st overalls on their second season

31 points is the pace Yakupov was on (24 points in 63 games)
31 points is what Lafreniere did

everyone else was clearing that bar with ease, including the "busts" like Stephan and most defenseman

so yes i'd say setting your expectations at Nail Yakupov is an incredibly low bar and it's depressing enough to consider crying before 10am

you can look at first season too if you want to argue about difference in age, it's pretty similar

 

[morhilane]

Y’a but the stats you put for him a bit off lol

Slaf has, after last night game, 19 pts and played 87 NHL games so far.

 

[le_sean]

Define 'incredibly low bars'
Define what your bars would be

And.. sorry about your 'problem'..

It’s not worth it. There’s a clear agenda and attempt to rile people up

 

[Shutdown]

going back to late october, the common denominator with all the posts trying to bash him is the complete avoidance of talking about his play on the ice. we all know he's not putting up elite points on paper. you're not making the point you think you're making it by only going back to stats without acknowledging his on-ice play.

 

[Tyson]

When he started the year with 1 assist in 13 games I along with many fans were starting to believe this may have been a poor pick.
Over the past 20-25 games it is becoming obvious that he has legitimate upside and is playing some excellent hockey. He is already the best passer on the team and one of the best players in all 3 zones.
His next phase is working on his release.
Oh and he is still a teenager.

 

[Tabarouette]

going back to late october, the common denominator with all the posts trying to bash him is the complete avoidance of talking about his play on the ice. we all know he's not putting up elite points on paper. you're not making the point you think you're making it by only going back to stats without acknowledging his on-ice play.

we all did acknowledge he *is* playing better but idk, read what you wanna read I guess

 

[Goalfield13]

When he started the year with 1 assist in 13 games I along with many fans were starting to believe this may have been a poor pick.
Over the past 20-25 games it is becoming obvious that he has legitimate upside and is playing some excellent hockey. He is already the best passer on the team and one of the best players in all 3 zones.
His next phase is working on his release.
Oh and he is still a teenager.

Logan Cooley in his first 20 games had 13 points. Slaf had 6. Slaf is now only 5 points behind. He is catching up, and I think he will pass him by the end of the year. Another troll talking point hopefully squashed.

 

[Shutdown]

we all did acknowledge he *is* playing better but idk, read what you wanna read I guess

i'm just reading that you've been burned by your belief in certain prospects in the past and you're playing up a pessimistic front to be able to pull an "i told you so" card to not look dumb again in the future. do your thing man. it's not rooted in reality.

 

[Goalfield13]

i'm just reading that you've been burned by your belief in certain prospects in the past and you're playing up a pessimistic front to be able to pull an "i told you so" card to not look dumb again in the future. do your thing man. it's not rooted in reality.

We have all been wrong about players before. No big deal. It's OK to be optimistic about your favourite sports team. It's not that serious. The dude needs to relax and enjoy life.

 

[Tabarouette]

i'm just reading that you've been burned by your belief in certain prospects in the past and you're playing up a pessimistic front to be able to pull an "i told you so" card to not look dumb again in the future. do your thing man. it's not rooted in reality.

I don't think there's a lot of realism in being overly optimistic and happy for a 1st overall currently mirroring (read: actually doing worse than him, because his first season was way way better) the biggest bust in the cap era beause the eye test says he's doing a little better than he was 30 games ago

And sadly it's the closest comparative we have since nobody else started out as bad as Slaf in that same era

I'm optimistic about things that make sense to be optimistic about. I love Guhle I think he's doing pretty good, i'm a big fan of Montembeault as a modern nhl goalie, Suzuki/Cole is a great combo and I love them eventho I got frustrated at Cole's production that stalled, I'll wait and see on Hutson and hope he can be as good as people predict

but hey you're right I guess, go habs go for life i'll pull out the car flag

 

[bcv]

Stat scouting is the best.

 

[Tabarouette]

Eye testing is, historically, the best metric.

 

[LesCanadiens]

going back to late october, the common denominator with all the posts trying to bash him is the complete avoidance of talking about his play on the ice. we all know he's not putting up elite points on paper. you're not making the point you think you're making it by only going back to stats without acknowledging his on-ice play.

Ironically, they mistook an asset (IE his excellent IQ) as him looking "lost" on the ice, when actually he was almost always in the play positionally in all 3 zones, and showed great anticipation, and awareness. He just didn't end-up with the puck on his stick as much yet, and when he did, he made awesome passes (again in all 3 zones), and setup plays that were flubbed by Anderson et al. Many of us pointed to these facts only to be ridiculed and mocked.

And still to this day, at least 2 of the biggest culprits don't have the cahone's to come back to this thread now that Slaf is proving them dead-wrong.