Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[waitin425]

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Yeah, yeah, yeah sure bud! Try again! Byfield wasn't a first overall pick! Who cares?

 

[crosbyshow]

At 19 years old either Laf and Byfield never dominated 2 periods like Slaf did yesterday.

He was a complete force in the offensive zone yesterday.

His puck protection technique is on point.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Someone makes a substantive comment talking only about hockey and this is the sort of response you have? Is this normal?

Nothing substantive in saying that Slaf should NOW be sent to the AHL.

 

[Whitesnake]

Yeah, I still feel like he would’ve benefited from being in Europe or the minors last year. At this point though, what’s done is done. He’s improving now and that’s all that really matters.

Yeah, I'm not coming back to that ever. Been there, done that. Not hijacking the thread anymore.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah sure bud! Try again! Byfield wasn't a first overall pick! Who cares?

Right like how does slaf compare to Gretzky Crosby and Mcdavid!!

 

[417]

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but how many games in the AHL had Byfield played by then?????

 

[DAChampion]

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Following his draft, Byfield played in 60 AHL games and 7 WJC games. He is emerging in his D+4.

At 19 years old either Laf and Byfield never dominated 2 periods like Slaf did yesterday.

You don't actually know that to be the case.

 

[waitin425]

Following his draft, Byfield played in 60 AHL games and 7 WJC games. He is emerging in his D+4.


You don't actually know that to be the case.

But we don't know that it is not the case.

 

[417]

Following his draft, Byfield played in 60 AHL games and 7 WJC games. He is emerging in his D+4.

He played those 60 AHL games spread out over 3 years in between playing 100 NHL games lol

How is it those 60 AHL games have that much weight over the 100 NHL games?

He's emerging in his D+3 because that's the normal path for most players

 

[Adam Michaels]

He played those 60 AHL games spread out over 3 years in between playing 100 NHL games lol

How is it those 60 AHL games have that much weight over the 100 NHL games?

He's emerging in his D+3 because that's the normal path for most players

And it's more of an adjustment for big bodies like Byfield and Slaf, who also have to mature into their frames.

 

[417]

And it's more of an adjustment for big bodies like Byfield and Slaf, who also have to mature into their frames.

Somewhere along the line, it became the norm to have to be a dominant player right off the bat if you're in the NHL at 18-19yrs old.

Or else you've been rushed and should be banished to the AHL.

I never quite understood this. He's 19 year old and OK, he's not producing like crazy (on a team where almost everyone isn't either)...but it's not like he's a liability out there and can't survive physically shift to shift.

And unlike last year and early this year, he's doing much more than just surviving out there.

Of all the sports I follow, this is the only sport that has this kind of expectation on kids....in all the other sports I follow teenagers get brought along slowly and the higher level they're at, the more impressive it is.

 

[Heffyhoof]

The guy is hurting Caulfield, his other linemates and the team in general. He has prime playing time with 7 points in 26 games.

The fact MSL hasn’t been able to make him shoot once in a while if only as a diversion to keep goalies honest is mindboggling.

He literally got 'prime playing time' in the last two games. It's not the offseason anymore so you can't just outright lie, now that our memory is fresh.

 

[Kennerback]

He literally got 'prime playing time' in the last two games. It's not the offseason anymore so you can't just outright lie, now that our memory is fresh.

He's played with Caufield for several games before and has played the PP all season. Enough to have reasonably produced much more than 7 points.

And while we're being honest here, the comparison to Byfield is nothing to be proud of. If we expect those 2 players to be superstars, those are exceptionally slow outlier NHL starts compared to other top draft picks. Even 6'3 and up big bodied draft picks, I checked again today. Especially for all the games played in D2 when there's usually a big pump in points for top draft picks.

Slaf looks much better than his stats. But you can try to spin his D2 stats anyway you want, they stink and are embarrassing.

 

[Tyson]

He's played with Caufield for several games before and has played the PP all season. Enough to have reasonably produced much more than 7 points.

And while we're being honest here, the comparison to Byfield is nothing to be proud of. If we expect those 2 players to be superstars, those are exceptionally slow outlier NHL starts compared to other top draft picks. Even 6'3 and up big bodied draft picks. Especially for all the games played in D2 when there's usually a big pump in points for top draft picks.

Slaf looks much better than his stats. But you can try to spin his D2 stats anyway you want, they stink and are embarrassing.

Quit Stat watching and watch the friggin game. He has been one of the best forwards over the past several games. Maybe his linemates should capitalize on some of his passes on occasion.

 

[417]

He's played with Caufield for several games before and has played the PP all season. Enough to have reasonably produced much more than 7 points.

And Suzuki/Caufiekd have played a ton more and should have way more production than they have, especially relative to their salary.

And while we're being honest here, the comparison to Byfield is nothing to be proud of. If we expect those 2 players to be superstars, those are exceptionally slow outlier NHL starts compared to other top draft picks. Even 6'3 and up big bodied draft picks, I checked again today. Especially for all the games played in D2 when there's usually a big pump in points for top draft picks.

Who cares about NHL starts.

Slaf looks much better than his stats. But you can try to spin his D2 stats anyway you want, they stink and are embarrassing.

This is emotions and feelings. This doesn't drive development.

Just because you can't gloat on HFboards polls about how great Slafkovsky is producing doesn't mean he's not developing lol. If his D2 stats are embarrassing, they're embarrassing for you.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

He's played with Caufield for several games before and has played the PP all season. Enough to have reasonably produced much more than 7 points.

And while we're being honest here, the comparison to Byfield is nothing to be proud of. If we expect those 2 players to be superstars, those are exceptionally slow outlier NHL starts compared to other top draft picks. Even 6'3 and up big bodied draft picks, I checked again today. Especially for all the games played in D2 when there's usually a big pump in points for top draft picks.

Slaf looks much better than his stats. But you can try to spin his D2 stats anyway you want, they stink and are embarrassing.

hes been playing great the stats will obviously come if he keeps up that play he had 2 great passes against the Kings one Suzuki hit the post and the other Caufield missed it

ill be the first one to admit that last year watching him play i had no hopes for him and thought we wasted a great pick on him but this year hes been showing me that he can dominate shifts by himself which is a huge step in a short period of time im starting to love the potentiel and with hes mentality im sure he will become a force for us in a year or 2

 

[Kennerback]

And Suzuki/Caufiekd have played a ton more and should have way more production than they have, especially relative to their salary.


Who cares about NHL starts.

This is emotions and feelings. This doesn't drive developmentnt.

I see an excellent player, especially these last few games. Often he looks like the best player on the ice.
I'm aware of that. His stats still stink. Like Bob Gainey's. Gainey was a HHOF, helped the Habs win Cups, Tikhonov called him the best player in the world. Great players can have terrible stats. I'm just telling it like it is. He's not trending as a possible offensive superstar one day.

And no the stats won't necessarily follow.

 

[SlafySZN]

I see an excellent player, especially these last few games. Often he looks like the best player on the ice.
I'm aware of that. His stats still stink. Like Bob Gainey's. Gainey was a HHOF, helped the Habs win Cups, Tikhonov called him the best player in the world. Great players can have terrible stats. I'm just telling it like it is. He's not trending as a possible offensive superstar one day.

And no the stats won't necessarily follow.

He’s got 5 points in his 7 games played with Caufield and Dvorak. His last 2 games with Suzuki and Caufield he created a lot, could’ve had many points in those games.

 

[Goldthorpe]

I don't know how far Slaf will develop nor how he will compare to his high-drafted peers, but his progress from last year (where according to some stats he was among the worst player in the league) to this year (where some nights he is arguably one if not our best staker) is probably the most surprising development I have ever seen. I don't remember a habs prospect developing so well and so fast, especially in the NHL, over the course of 12 months and not even a full season worth of games.

There's a lot of work and training behind that progression.

 

[Kennerback]

I don't know how far Slaf will develop nor how he will compare to his high-drafted peers, but his progress from last year (where according to some stats he was among the worst player in the league) to this year (where some nights he is arguably one if not our best staker) is probably the most surprising development I have ever seen. I don't remember a habs prospect developing so well and so fast, especially in the NHL, over the course of 12 months and not even a full season worth of games.

There's a lot of work and training behind that progression.

He's taken a giant leap forward. And he really looks like a beast. I guess I'm not putting enough emphasis on this. It's amazing. He might become my favorite player the way he's progressing. But maybe I'm asking to much, but I'd like to see I'm progress statistically. He's making a bunch of unforced errors offensively. I'd love to see him fix those. He'd be even more of a beast. Like a super beast.

 

[Goldthorpe]

Somewhere along the line, it became the norm to have to be a dominant player right off the bat if you're in the NHL at 18-19yrs old.

If I were a gm who could make random Lamoriello style decision about how my team operates, I would just never let a 18 years old play in the NHL (except maybe the generational elite). 18 years old bodies are closer to teenagers than full adults, and it's reckless to ignore this and let kids play in such a physical, dangerous league. Every single of my draft pick would be told there's no way in hell they play their D year, and the media would know too.

EDIT: This is just my stupid, butthead opinion. Slaf developed fine.

 

[Jaynki]

If I was a gm who could make random Lamoriello style decision about how my team operates, I would just never let a 18 years old play in the NHL (except maybe the generational elite). 18 years old bodies are much closer to teenagers than full adults, and it's reckless to ignore this and let kids play in such a physical, dangerous league. Every single of my draft pick would be told there's no way in hell they play their D year, and the media would know too.

Might be very unpopular with players agency and the NHLPA. Could shoot yourself in the foot big times when negotiating post-ELC contract with such a rigid posture.

 

[Naslundforever]

Those clowns.......................if Slaf was Quebecois, imagine, just imagine how they would not shut up about him.
This kid is coming.................... and people are just now starting to take notice. Well, those who choose to......the AC crowd are embarassing to the organization.

The way I remember l’antichambre they started with how Slaf is looking like their best forward for a while now. Rds and TVA have had only good words for a few weeks.

 

[417]

I see an excellent player, especially these last few games. Often he looks like the best player on the ice.
I'm aware of that. His stats still stink. Like Bob Gainey's. Gainey was a HHOF, helped the Habs win Cups, Tikhonov called him the best player in the world. Great players can have terrible stats. I'm just telling it like it is. He's not trending as a possible offensive superstar one day.

And no the stats won't necessarily follow.

Well you're mostly letting the stats tell the whole story...which is fine, you can look at everything through the lens of stats because ultimately, it's a results-driven sport at the end of the day.

But I think there's much more to it than just that at this point.

 

[Kennerback]

Well you're mostly letting the stats tell the whole story...which is fine, you can look at everything through the lens of stats because ultimately, it's a results-driven sport at the end of the day.

But I think there's much more to it than just that at this point.

As I said in my subsequent post, by picking on the stats, I might not be giving a good picture of the player. On all other markers, he's taken a giant leap forward. Especially the last 2 games. He's becoming a monster along the board. He looks so big heavy with a low center of gravity that it looks like trying to move a sumo wrestler.