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Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

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Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?

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i’m a big fan of a long stick for Slaf if he can stickhandle with it. It helps Bedard and Zuccarello steal pucks despite being short.

Both also have great releases, the fling and the bend seem to give goalies trouble judging the puck. And as Slaf is learning to shoot for the first time, might as well learn the right way.😉
 
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Kennerback said:
How much more value will we lose if we wait too long? According to some, he’s a 2nd rate prospect that every team has in its pipeline. A 4th round pick instead of 3rd? A 5th instead of a 4th? I’m ready to pay the price.
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And others think that he's one of the league's top prospects who could be the main piece in getting a top-6 F. I have no idea how other GMs see Roy, but the idea that you shouldn't trade a prospect unless they've proven to you that they won't become a good NHLer is simply a terrible way to GM a team. Remember Bergevin turning down a 2nd round pick for Tinordi in 2015 because he was afraid Tinordi might still become a top-4 D only to end up with less then nothing 1 year later, I do.
 
Kennerback said:
i’m a big fan of a long stick for Slaf if he can stickhandle with it. It helps Bedard and Zuccarello steal pucks despite being short.

Both also have great releases, the fling and the bend seem to give goalies trouble judging the puck. And as Slaf is learning to shoot for the first time, might as well learn the right way.😉
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Yeah stealing pucks was one of the things that stood out from Day 1 with Slaf. He's got a great active stick and it's a big part of his game.
 
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4-5 years from now, when Slaf is 23-24 years old, I think a very comparable comp would be JT Miller.

Especially with Juraj showing he has a physical side.
 
Hannibal said:
Well, i’m glad St-Louis woke up after this putrid lineup he made up. Pearson-Evans-Slaf LOL
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Guess who scored the GwG last night and guess who was our most used forward. Hint no one on the top line, both were on the line you mentioned and neither was Slaf.
 
Sorinth said:
And others think that he's one of the league's top prospects who could be the main piece in getting a top-6 F. I have no idea how other GMs see Roy, but the idea that you shouldn't trade a prospect unless they've proven to you that they won't become a good NHLer is simply a terrible way to GM a team. Remember Bergevin turning down a 2nd round pick for Tinordi in 2015 because he was afraid Tinordi might still become a top-4 D only to end up with less then nothing 1 year later, I do.
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This isn’t a fair argument. You’re using hindsight to support yourself. It’s easy to say after the fact you would’ve traded Tinordi for a second after seeing how it played out. If teams gave up on all their prospects, they wouldn’t ever give themselves a chance to develop players. I’m not saying you shouldn’t trade “A” level prospects or around that level like Roy, but you better be getting something worthwhile in return if you do. That was the problem with trading Sergachev for Drouin. Drouin was fine as a player when we acquired him but the level of prospect we gave up for him in return never made sense even if Drouin never flamed out.
 
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417 said:
I can't speak for him and that wasn't what I quoted you on...it was your singular focus on points when he's doing so much more out there.

But if that's too much for you to discuss...see you later I guess, you'll be back i'm sure. Next slump/bad play can't be too far.
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Hes been slumping for 50 games and I havent really changed my tune.

Jaynki was tryna f*** around and he found out.
 
Mrb1p said:
Hes been slumping for 50 games and I havent really changed my tune.

Jaynki was tryna f*** around and he found out.
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Slaf’s production of 64-6-11-17 looks nasty. But to put things in perpective, save for one year, 11 assists is Anderson’s norm for a good season. So we can already figure he’s already a better passer and has a better vision than Anderson.

I also think 6 goals is unfair if projected over a season. The way he’s trending I believe he can double that to 12. If he improves his release and starts shooting, who knows, he might get to 15, 17, basically the sky’s the limit…
 
Kennerback said:
Slaf’s production of 64-6-11-17 looks nasty. But to put things in perpective, save for one years, 11 assists is Anderson’s norm for a good season. So we can already figure he’s already a better passer and has a better vision than Anderson.

I also think 6 goals is unfair if projected for a season. The way he’s trending I believe he can double that to 12. If he improves his release and starts shooting, who knows, he might get to 15, 17, basically the sky’s the limit…
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Anderson isnt the barometer for a good skills player, hes f***ing dreadful.
 
Mrb1p said:
Hes been slumping for 50 games and I havent really changed my tune.
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Like I said, if you're just focused on “score vision”, I get your take.

There's some value in that kind of evaluation, but I find without context its very shallow and very “low hanging fruit” kinda thing.

There's so much more to look at when it comes to the growth in his game.

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Jaynki was tryna f*** around and he found out.
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Missed that exchange, I'll have to go back to take a look lol
 
admiralcadillac said:
Apparently you do, unless you don’t think he’s been developing.
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This year Slaf had good linemates most of the time. Thats how you develop. Quality ice time with quality linemates. Not with Pearson and Evans.

Glad MSL woke up and he’s now with Caufield and Suzuki!
 
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417 said:
Like I said, if you're just focused on “score vision”, I get your take.

There's some value in that kind of evaluation, but I find without context its very shallow and very “low hanging fruit” kinda thing.

There's so much more to look at when it comes to the growth in his game.


Missed that exchange, I'll have to go back to take a look lol
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Its not what Im doing, it is what Jaynki was doing though. Idc about stats much, I care about how Slaf looks.
 
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Hannibal said:
This year Slaf had good linemates most of the time. Thats how you develop. Quality ice time with quality linemates. Not with Pearson and Evans.

Glad MSL woke up and he’s now with Caufield and Suzuki!
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Evans played the most last game. Again though he’s been playing with everyone in the lineup and developing. I don’t think you can limit the positives to the games where he’s been with Suzuki and Caufield, which is exactly one.
 
admiralcadillac said:
Evans played the most last game. Again though he’s been playing with everyone in the lineup and developing. I don’t think you can limit the positives to the games where he’s been with Suzuki and Caufield, which is exactly one.
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Played lot of games with Caufield.
 
Kimota said:
Pretty encouraging!
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If he was a player that could shoot and score, there would be no race with Cooley. Cooley would be crushed and would not have the upside to catch up.

But It’s easy to project a young player getting bigger, stronger, a bit faster, adjusting to the speed of the game, improve defensively, learn systems. But how can I project a player that looks that good but has a negative track record statistically in the pros?

There’s no precedent for a player like Slaf that I can remember. How can I tell if a guy that never scored, will suddenly score?
 
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If he was a player that could shoot and score, there would be no race with Cooley. Cooley would be crushed and would not have the upside to catch up.

But It’s easy to project a young player getting bigger, stronger, a bit faster, adjusting to the speed of the game, improve defensively, learn systems. But how can I project a player that looks that good but has a negative track record statistically in the pros?

There’s no precedent for a player like Slaf that I can remember. How can I tell if a guy that never scored, will suddenly score?
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Interesting yea. The NHL is a whole different place. You can see guys explode in the NHL that were average players in junior. You suddenly find yourself playing on the same line of guys with a superior talent. That helps. So we never know.
 
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Kennerback said:
If he was a player that could shoot and score, there would be no race with Cooley. Cooley would be crushed and would not have the upside to catch up.

But It’s easy to project a young player getting bigger, stronger, a bit faster, adjusting to the speed of the game, improve defensively, learn systems. But how can I project a player that looks that good but has a negative track record statistically in the pros?

There’s no precedent for a player like Slaf that I can remember. How can I tell if a guy that never scored, will suddenly score?
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Slaf never had a problem scoring everywhere he played. He probably won’t be a 50 goal scorer in the NHL but he’ll adjust and score his share of goals.
 
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