Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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nhlfan9191

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Being an NHL regular in your D+1 or D+2 is a special thing that usually leads to top of the line-up player.

Being the most productive dman in decades in the NCAA even above some current megastar in the NHL is a special thing.

Agree for the rest.
Give me a break Jaynki. Slafkovsky didn’t earn his way on to the team last year. He was placed there because of his draft status. He looked awful. Making the team doesn’t make him special regardless. We’re lacking true blue chip prospects on this roster right now. Reinbacher hasn’t had a good start to this year either.

@admiralcadillac Hutson honestly slipped my mind.
 

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Give me a break Jaynki. Slafkovsky didn’t earn his way on to the team last year. He was placed there because of his draft status. He looked awful. Making the team doesn’t make him special regardless. We’re lacking true blue chip prospects on this roster right now. Reinbacher hasn’t had a good start to this year either.

@admiralcadillac Hutson honestly slipped my mind.
Hutson’s been on incredible but Foy’s nothing to sneeze at either. Guehle is slowly but surely turning into a first pairing blueliner… a lot of progress is happening.
 

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Two (or more) aspects in development. One would be adapting to the NHL-rink and NHL speeds, obviously that's likelier done in the NHL but comes with additional risks such a injuries etc. He already suffered a major injury last year, one that most of you conveniently ignore. I think that risk is reduced now, after much pain and the major injury that derailed his rookie season, because he looks much more present and involved in the game.

The second is developing his (weak) playmaking ability. I think, and so do many professional commentators, that it's fair to say a player can developed this more easily against easier opposition such as in the AHL. Slafkovsky has not demonstrated much in terms of this aspect. Maybe one day you'll concede this point. To your credit, however, it could be that once he's adapted to the NHL-game (speed/size/intensity) he can then develop his playmaking ability. There is a long way to go on that front and we'll never know until we see it.

It is one of those topics that should be dropped, if you want to consider it a victory be my guest - you won. He will not be developed in the AHL. God speed.
I hope you know me enough by now to understand that I care not a whit about winning or losing arguments. I enjoy constructive dialogue and wish I had it more often.

I disagree that Slaf is particularly weak in playmaking. He is a winger, and in fact I find he could shoot more and look to pass slightly less. Let's not compare his style to Cooley or Wright's.

As for the freak leg injury last year, this was not likely a result of the league he was in. We are seeing our Laval and European prospects getting hurt too. Leg injuries seem to be the most common.
 

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Give me a break Jaynki. Slafkovsky didn’t earn his way on to the team last year. He was placed there because of his draft status. He looked awful. Making the team doesn’t make him special regardless. We’re lacking true blue chip prospects on this roster right now. Reinbacher hasn’t had a good start to this year either.
I'll concede that last year's 40 games were pure development and scarce results. Teams in a different context with more pressure to win might not have had the luxury to develop their top prospect that way.

But clearly Slaf is a regular now, at far less than 80 games into his career. Looks encouraging at this stage.
 
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Hutson’s been on incredible but Foy’s nothing to sneeze at either. Guehle is slowly but surely turning into a first pairing blueliner… a lot of progress is happening.
Not really important, but can you misspell more names in one post? 'Foy' is Roy, I presume?
 
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Autocorrect and typing on my phone = chaos.
Get the same problem, but it's really bad since my space bar started being wonky! The words all jumbled up together leads to interesting creativity from the auto-correct and I sometmes miss those as I insert the spacing later.
 

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Give me a break Jaynki. Slafkovsky didn’t earn his way on to the team last year. He was placed there because of his draft status. He looked awful. Making the team doesn’t make him special regardless. We’re lacking true blue chip prospects on this roster right now. Reinbacher hasn’t had a good start to this year either.

@admiralcadillac Hutson honestly slipped my mind.

So 1OA goes straight to NHL because of draft status, but not 5OA... Do I have that right?

What about 2OA, 3OA & 4OA? Do you have insider info on Hughes rate card that determines where a prospect goes based on draft status?

Sucks for all teams that drafted in 2022... Not one blue chip in the bunch.
 

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Being an NHL regular in your D+1 or D+2 is a special thing that usually leads to top of the line-up player.

Being the most productive dman in decades in the NCAA even above some current megastar in the NHL is a special thing.
I agree with part two of your message.

As for part one, being in the NHL in your D + 1 doesn’t mean anything if you can’t follow the game properly or at least help your team.
 

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So 1OA goes straight to NHL because of draft status, but not 5OA... Do I have that right?

What about 2OA, 3OA & 4OA? Do you have insider info on Hughes rate card that determines where a prospect goes based on draft status?

Sucks for all teams that drafted in 2022... Not one blue chip in the bunch.
You’re asking the questions a lot of us were asking with them doing the right thing with Reinbacher while doing something completely different with Slafkovsky. Considering only Jiricek got a tiny 4 game sample out of the 5 realistic players who could’ve got taken 1st overall in 2022, it’s fairly safe to say he wouldn’t have made any team other then ours last year. That takes away from the whole “he’s doing something special by making the team” arguement being made in this thread.
 

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So 1OA goes straight to NHL because of draft status, but not 5OA... Do I have that right?

What about 2OA, 3OA & 4OA? Do you have insider info on Hughes rate card that determines where a prospect goes based on draft status?

Sucks for all teams that drafted in 2022... Not one blue chip in the bunch.
Are you saying that Slafkovsky was playing well last year?
 

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I understand people are upset that Slaf is developing well in the NHL and really made all the "he must be sent down to the AHL" cult look incorrect so much so that now we have resorting to arguing about last year. Jesus boys take your L move on and be happy for the player.
 

nhlfan9191

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I understand people are upset that Slaf is developing well in the NHL and really made all the "he must be sent down to the AHL" cult look incorrect so much so that now we have resorting to arguing about last year. Jesus boys take your L move on and be happy for the player.
He has 2 points in his last 7 games playing with the teams best players most of the time. He’s played well but I don’t understand where select few posters are getting this “L” to hand to everyone.
 
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I understand people are upset that Slaf is developing well in the NHL and really made all the "he must be sent down to the AHL" cult look incorrect so much so that now we have resorting to arguing about last year. Jesus boys take your L move on and be happy for the player.
Makes as much sense as to say....Good job to the guys and girls that didn't go to school and made it in business nonetheless. All of those people in a ''you must go to school cult....''

Freakin Simon Nemec lost time in the AHL when he could have develop in the NHL from day one....
 

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Agree with much of your analysis.

Not sure if i am overcriticizing him tho as i have him as our 3rd best prospects. That is bound to change tho depending on his growth this year.

I just refrain from being excited by prospects unless they are doing special things or have special tools. That is not the case with Roy.
He has special tools no doubt. IQ, shooting, passing, and his hands are all some of the best in the organization. Rare combination.
 
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Whitesnake

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He has 2 points in his last 7 games playing with the teams best players most of the time. He’s played well but I don’t understand where select few posters are getting this “L” to hand to everyone.
The people who are actually working so hard at pointing fingers towards posters are the ones in competition with L's and W's. On one side, you had people thinking that we should be patient and he should slowly walk befor he could run. On the other side, you had people bashing posters saying pros know best. I'm fine with my side.

I'm still wondering how wanting the team to have taken more its time with a player as a bashing to the said player. I will never get it. This board has gone downhill...insane.

If some would be as hard with the organization that they are with posters, that organization would feel way more accountable than they were in the past.
 
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nhlfan9191

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The people who are actually working so hard at pointing fingers towards posters are the ones in competition with L's and W's. On one side, you had people thinking that we should be patient and he should slowly walk befor he could run. On the other side, you had people bashing posters saying pros know best. I'm fine with my side.

I'm still wondering how wanting the team to have taken more its time with a player as a bashing to the said player. I will never get it. This board has gone downhill...insane.

If some would be as hard with the organization that they are with posters, that organization would feel way more accountable than they were in the past.
Kid looks great
We won’t know for a few more years what we’ve actually got here. But in my opinion, the people celebrating him and as a success story are just as premature as the ones calling him a bust.
 

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So 1OA goes straight to NHL because of draft status, but not 5OA... Do I have that right?

What about 2OA, 3OA & 4OA? Do you have insider info on Hughes rate card that determines where a prospect goes based on draft status?

Sucks for all teams that drafted in 2022... Not one blue chip in the bunch.

I mean it’s hard not to see Slafkovsky as a blue chip prospect with his current play. We’ll see if it continues.

Also, is Lane Hutson not a blue chip at this point?
 

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I wasn't really on board with the Slaf pick at first since I wanted Wright or Jiricek but I'm convinced they made the right pick.
 
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Hutson’s been on incredible but Foy’s nothing to sneeze at either. Guehle is slowly but surely turning into a first pairing blueliner… a lot of progress is happening.
Mesar might not be quite there but considering he was an afterthought 6 months ago and now he’s one of the top forwards in the OHL, I’d say that’s not too bad either.
 
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