Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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KevSkillz4

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Slaf prove that he is going to be so much better player than KK and Galchenyuk. I see flashes two-way game in Slaf more than both. He show much more in details of game aswell. Slaf is going to be a force, people need to understand that playing with Josh Anderson or Christian Dvorak or Michael Pezzetta, don't really help the production. People need watch games.
 

Andy

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This video doesn't say much for Slaf, it mostly just shows how bad Anderson is.
Fun fact, both Newhook and Slakovsky have produced when taken away from Anderson. I think they both have 4 points in their last 5 games. I think they both had 0 points in the 5 games they played with Anderson. Anderson has one point in his last 5 after being split up from Newhook and Slaf.
 

morhilane

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I was wondering about the Caufield-Suzuki-Slaf line that was broken up after basically one full game together. I know Caufield and Suzuki weren't getting much done 5-on-5 so a breakup to get them going makes sense. Caufield is great but not a line driver in his own right, Suzuki was. To a lesser extent I'd argue Monohan drives play as well.

Maybe the refusal to put Slaf long-term with either Suzuki or Monohan is a consequence of management wanting him to be in a position where he's required to learn to be the play driver. He certainly has the build and skill-set and it's what you'd want from a 1OA.

MSL said he wanted to spread the offense around a bit, so players aren't covered as much on a single line. With Caufield/Suzuki/Slaf, that's the only line teams really need to watch for.
 
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Cole "Cold" Palmer
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417 and Andy,
If I was Molson, and you were Gorton and Hughes and if you showed me your "Project Slafkofsky" like you did here on forums I'd say: You're fired ! ;)
This ain't it bro

I mean you started asking what the goal of the project was.

If you were Molson and you're asking that, I'd say put the club up for sale and take a business/project class.

You don't evaluate the performance of a stock portfolio by isolating the performance of a specific stock in Q1.
 
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Whitesnake

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I just don't get that everything he said about Mesar in that slovakian paper, cannot be said for Juraj as well. Only reason why is because the ego do not want to send down a 1st overall. Only reason. Oh that and the fact that he's big. And Mesar is small. Big 1st overall = NHL.
 

River Meadow

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I just don't get that everything he said about Mesar in that slovakian paper, cannot be said for Juraj as well. Only reason why is because the ego do not want to send down a 1st overall. Only reason. Oh that and the fact that he's big. And Mesar is small. Big 1st overall = NHL.

This.

Also, IMO, Mesar looks more 'skilled' offensively than Slafkovsky.
 

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Cole "Cold" Palmer
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I just don't get that everything he said about Mesar in that slovakian paper, cannot be said for Juraj as well. Only reason why is because the ego do not want to send down a 1st overall. Only reason. Oh that and the fact that he's big. And Mesar is small. Big 1st overall = NHL.
Fair or not…physical strength is a big factor as it relates to adapting to the NHL.

What's good for one isn't necessarily what's good for another.
 
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dackelljuneaubulis02

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I think it's the opposite. It's mostly Habs fans overhyping their own prospects and bashing others. How many times we've red that Cooley is a gnome who can only play on PP? That Wright is going nowhere? That Nemec is soft? That Jiricek is AHL dude?
The worst bashing of all was that happiness about Michkov being sidelined in SKA. That was the lowest point of bashing here.
Yeah this board is OVERWHELMINGLY positive towards the Habs. That’s the narrative we’re gonna run with now?

Surely you’ve visited our delightful gdts that are embarrassingly optimistic.
 

Egresch

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Slaf should be in a position to succeed— I agree. I think the fact that Cooley, a rookie, is outscoring Slaf, a sophomore, is really disappointing even if Slaf has one (1) more EV point than him at this time.

Slaf’s last year seems like a major waste even before the major knee injury he suffered which wiped out half his season.
Slaf is just one month older than Cooley, it does not matter if he is rookie or sophomore. Especially, when Slaf missed half of last season due to injury. Last year was very painful, but surprisingly, he did not miss a lot. If you would tell two years ago that Slaf plays in NHL and in most of the games he looks like he belongs, you would be happy.
 

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Slaf prove that he is going to be so much better player than KK and Galchenyuk. I see flashes two-way game in Slaf more than both. He show much more in details of game aswell. Slaf is going to be a force, people need to understand that playing with Josh Anderson or Christian Dvorak or Michael Pezzetta, don't really help the production. People need watch games.
Then why did you rank him 20th in a re-draft?

 

Jaynki

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Then why did you rank him 20th in a re-draft?


To his defense, it looks like a troll job.
 

River Meadow

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Then why did you rank him 20th in a re-draft?


LMAO.

Busted............
 

River Meadow

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Slaf prove that he is going to be so much better player than KK and Galchenyuk. I see flashes two-way game in Slaf more than both. He show much more in details of game aswell. Slaf is going to be a force, people need to understand that playing with Josh Anderson or Christian Dvorak or Michael Pezzetta, don't really help the production. People need watch games.

I don't see that at all.

I see Slaf as easily being worse than both KK and Galchenyuk in their 2nd year.

That's not to say Slaf can't be better than both.. but there's just no way in hell I can make the claim Slaf looks better in any facet of the game than KK or Galchenyuk did in their 2nd year, unless I had some serious prescription strength rose colored glasses on...
 

Whitesnake

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Fair or not…physical strength is a big factor as it relates to adapting to the NHL.

What's good for one isn't necessarily what's good for another.
Well that's not what Hughes statement suggest. He uses Caufield and Cie as an example to show Mesar it's the way to go. Seems to me what's good for some might be good for a lot.
 
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morhilane

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I don't see that at all.

I see Slaf as easily being worse than both KK and Galchenyuk in their 2nd year.

That's not to say Slaf can't be better than both.. but there's just no way in hell I can make the claim Slaf looks better in any facet of the game than KK or Galchenyuk did in their 2nd year, unless I had some serious prescription strength rose colored glasses on...
KK's 2nd season is clearly not what you remember. KK had a terrible camp, followed by looking terrible in-season, got a few injuries because he couldn't keep up despite being sheltered and was finally sent down to the AHL (where he had a season ending injury).

We also have no idea what KK would have looked like under MSL. We can already see that some vets NHLers are struggling with "concepts" and no strict systems.
 
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River Meadow

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KK's 2nd season is clearly not what you remember. KK had a terrible camp, followed by looking terrible in-season, got a few injuries because he couldn't keep up despite being sheltered and was finally sent down to the AHL (where he had a season ending injury).

We also have no idea what KK would have looked like under MSL. We can already see that some vets NHLers are struggling with "concepts" and no strict systems.

Oh, I remember it very well actually.

I also remember how clutch he was in the playoffs despite playing under 14mins a game on avg.

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morhilane

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Oh, I remember it very well actually.

I also remember how clutch he was in the playoffs despite playing under 14mins a game on avg.

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Those playoffs were in August, which was pretty much the start of KK D+3 and even farther away then where Slaf is right now which is his 18th game (soon 19th) into his 2nd season.

He haven't even hit 60 NHL games yet.
 

Andrei79

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I liked KK quite a bit, but I don't see the comparisons. Slaf is more skilled in a bigger body. KK had good vision, but Slaf is learning quicker and both had the same production after 18 games in their second year. Slaf has a lot more to work with and definitely isn't far behind at the same point, that just makes no sense. I thought KK regressed his second year while Slaf is improving, even if I disagree with how they're handling him. They've definitely not punished him for learning and that is a major difference.
 

River Meadow

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I liked KK quite a bit, but I don't see the comparisons. Slaf is more skilled in a bigger body. KK had good vision, but Slaf is learning quicker and both had the same production after 18 games in their second year. Slaf has a lot more to work with and definitely isn't far behind at the same point, that just makes no sense. I thought KK regressed his second year while Slaf is improving, even if I disagree with how they're handling him. They've definitely not punished him for learning and that is a major difference.

I hope you're right.

I view KK as more skilled at the same age, with a super heavy deceptive shot to boot, which unfortunately Slaf does not have at the moment.

I never wanted for mgnmt to send KK down because I thought he had to hone his skills or anything, he was rough around the edges but you could see it more than you can with Slaf, IMO.

Again this isn't to say Slaf won't become the better player.

I just think we need to be honest about the situation as it is currently, at least the way I am seeing it.

Let's see what the future holds.
 
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