Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[Scriptor]

I'm going to avoid this thread because it is populated by people trying to prove something I can't put my finger on, something more personal than what is being portrayed as the alleged argument.

It has become the most pathetic thread to read on this site.

 

[Miller Time]

In his former agent role, Hughes was a specialist in player development. St. Louis is a total unicorn in the hockey world.

Still, at best, its an appeal to autority.

I am not sure we should blindly trust them to be honest, but we should at least give them the benefit of the doubt. That is not a free pass. It comes with expectations and the necessity of result but on the other hand, we have also have to give them some rope.

We will see. They will be tributary of their actions and result will speak for themselves. I think we are heading in the right direction and we have plenty of reasons to be excited by our futures. Still, whiffing a 1st overall pick will be an absolute black hole and will be remembered forever in their history here. (If it happen)

Last time we whiffed on a 1st overall, we won a cup a few years later, so if Slaf does fail to hit his top line potential, let's hope the hockey gods balance it out in similar fashion

 

[NotProkofievian]

I'm going to avoid this thread because it is populated by people trying to prove something I can't put my finger on, something more personal than what is being portrayed as the alleged argument.

It has become the most pathetic thread to read on this site.

This is where your mind goes when you can't just call things what they are. It must be a personal conspiracy against Slaf, management or whoever. Maybe, like Mesar's coach last year, we're actually all Greater Hungarian nationalists who reject the Treaty of Trianon and thus the existence of the Slovakian state, or should I say, Felvidek! Slaf will come home, Scriptor.

Yeah, that's definitely it.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

What a lousy post. Not worth a real response.

That's okay I won my point , you have no idea that players need development before they hit the top.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Slaf is a #1OA in a weak draft, we can't expect too much too soon. Patience is key.

Stop with that weak argument of a weak draft please. Wright is PPG in the AHL, Cooley scroring at a 0.8PPG in the NHL, Nemec was a very good Dman last year in the AHL, same for Jiricek, who now shows promise in the NHL (nothing fantastic I ll grant you). Gauthier is scoring a goal per game in the NCAA, Mintyukov is showing incredible promise in his first year after being awarded OHL Dman of the year. Out of the top 10, only Kasper and Korchinski are arguably doing as poorly as Slaf.

Please stop dismissing 220 players to suit your narrative.

 

[Kennedys]

Stop with that weak argument of a weak draft please. Wright is PPG in the AHL, Cooley scroring at a 0.8PPG in the NHL, Nemec was a very good Dman last year in the AHL, same for Jiricek, who now shows promise in the NHL (nothing fantastic I ll grant you). Gauthier is scoring a goal per game in the NCAA, Mintyukov is showing incredible promise in his first year after being awarded OHL Dman of the year. Out of the top 10, only Kasper and Korchinski are arguably doing as poorly as Slaf.

Please stop dismissing 220 players to suit your narrative.

I was guilty of that but eventually you see the light.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I was guilty of that but eventually you see the light.

What do you want me to say. In my light you thrive, in my wisdom you are humbled

 

[Habssince89]

Stop with that weak argument of a weak draft please. Wright is PPG in the AHL, Cooley scroring at a 0.8PPG in the NHL, Nemec was a very good Dman last year in the AHL, same for Jiricek, who now shows promise in the NHL (nothing fantastic I ll grant you). Gauthier is scoring a goal per game in the NCAA, Mintyukov is showing incredible promise in his first year after being awarded OHL Dman of the year. Out of the top 10, only Kasper and Korchinski are arguably doing as poorly as Slaf.

Please stop dismissing 220 players to suit your narrative.

Bizarre post. It was a weaker draft than other years. Not exactly a controversial statement. Great username btw....

 

[RationalExpectations]

Bizarre post. It was a weaker draft than other years. Not exactly a controversial statement. Great username btw....

I think we should see in 5 years, just like for Slaf, what this draft is exactly. I think this draft is getting a lot of heat because Slaf is not producing as quickly as some people wanted but Wright was said to be better than any player in the 2021 draft, and Slaf would have gone 1 OA in 2021 too. Given how 2022 went, we can assume that Slaf would have been at worst 4 OA in 2023, Nemec & Jiricek are in the same ball park as Reinbacher.

It is not against you in particular, I am just tired of the 2022 weakness argument. Even if Slaf is 5OA in another draft, we need to expect some skills out of him right ?

Thanks

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Stop with that weak argument of a weak draft please. Wright is PPG in the AHL, Cooley scroring at a 0.8PPG in the NHL, Nemec was a very good Dman last year in the AHL, same for Jiricek, who now shows promise in the NHL (nothing fantastic I ll grant you). Gauthier is scoring a goal per game in the NCAA, Mintyukov is showing incredible promise in his first year after being awarded OHL Dman of the year. Out of the top 10, only Kasper and Korchinski are arguably doing as poorly as Slaf.

Please stop dismissing 220 players to suit your narrative.

I disagree about Korchinski. While he's having troubles defensively, he's already better than a lot of Ds at carrying the puck, making a first pass and cycling at the blue line. Chicago was already a shitshow defensively and they might be rushing him, still he's shown far more attributes and gameplay at his own position than Slaf has done so far.

 

[TomKosto]

The Habs and their talent to develop top3 prospect, let's rush an other guy, why not..?

 

[Yasuo]

The only thing that could stop the habs from rushing prospect is drafting player like Celebrini who will probably be Nhl ready as soon as next year.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Stop with that weak argument of a weak draft please. Wright is PPG in the AHL, Cooley scroring at a 0.8PPG in the NHL, Nemec was a very good Dman last year in the AHL, same for Jiricek, who now shows promise in the NHL (nothing fantastic I ll grant you). Gauthier is scoring a goal per game in the NCAA, Mintyukov is showing incredible promise in his first year after being awarded OHL Dman of the year. Out of the top 10, only Kasper and Korchinski are arguably doing as poorly as Slaf.

Please stop dismissing 220 players to suit your narrative.

Hab Fans:

 

[StCaufield]

I'm not trying to predict how many points he's going to score a year, I'm just pointing out the habs fanbase is quick to impatience with players in general, and for a player like slaf who needs even more time for proper development its tragic to see so many people jump to conclusions about what he'll be. I didn't make any outlandish claims in my post, so I'm not really sure what observations you think aren't true.

I know for sure this fanbase ruins young players or loses them before they break out. We nearly ran Price out of here. All the examples I've given are sound.

Pretty sure every fan base is impatient and brutal at times other than a handful. The Montreal fan base is a bad excuse now except when they boo their own players on the ice. Every original 6 teams fan base has no patience and add at least 10 more to that. That’s just sports

 

[StCaufield]

You didn't watch much if you think Shane Wright is not in a better spot than Slaf. Dear god that's some ignorant statement. He got humiliated and then instead of Sulking and doing his Drouinsm , he's learning and soon enough he will Join Seattle

Drouins parents were the key to him getting traded. He actually handled his struggles with Montreal with class. Never bitched about anything. Maybe behind the scenes but not in the media. The scary part is that Drouin was a million times the player than Slaf is at this point. It’s a poor comparison and means nothing but interesting

 

[River Meadow]

KK clearly showed IQ the first time we saw him step on a NHL ice. Slaf didn't. Two different scenarios.

Of course it's still very early but they need to send him to the AHL. Knowing Gorton, they probably won't and that's a shame.

Absolutely.

People want to throw the name KK around here as if it's some consolation to how Slaf will develop.

I've never had the same worries about KK that I have about Slaf.

With KK you could see it was only a matter of time, even when he wasn't getting points (this has NOTHING to do with point totals), and they also should NOT have started him right away in the NHL.

With Slaf in comparison, I am much more nervous of how he will pan out because of what he's shown so far, but I am hoping for the best.

 

[StCaufield]

He didn’t sulk? Did you see the look he shot at the Habs?

I have no idea if Wright’s going to be better on not but it’s pretty clear that he’s not the sure fire guy that many (including me) thought he could be. And I don’t see any evidence that he’s ahead of Slaf at all.

That’s not sulking. That a f*** you I’ll prove you wrong. Looked like a clown also though lol

 

[River Meadow]

should have done this last season after 9 games and should have sent him in the WJC instead of playing with a roster that was eliminated already in November last season.

I also remember a LOT of people defending Habs management on their decision to NOT have him go to the WJCs.

As if Slaf is/was above that.

"Oh, he will learn so much more in the NHL...."

smh.

 

[StCaufield]

Are you actually being serious, here? That's not a sarcastic question, rest assured.

Because there never was "a look."

That's just our fanbase being insecure and psychotic, generating a convoluted, baseless narrative by imputing meaning to a shot that was taken when he wasn't even looking in the direction of the Canadien's table.

Its spurious drama, as fake as the storylines in wrestling.

So you’re friends with Shane and asked him? It was 100% directly at the Canadiens table. Sorry is this Shane Wright or are you just dense

 

[River Meadow]

So you’re friends with Shane and asked him? It was 100% directly at the Canadiens table. Sorry is this Shane Wright or are you just dense

Shane Wright is going to fill our net with pucks, ala Filip Zadina.

 

[StCaufield]

Last time we whiffed on a 1st overall, we won a cup a few years later, so if Slaf does fail to hit his top line potential, let's hope the hockey gods balance it out in similar fashion

Gorton is notoriously horrible at first round picks such as Laugh and Cucko. He has a lot of influence on Hughes

I’ve been hard on Slaf and miss his psycho face when he scores. I hope he can improve and not play like a virgin scared to even say hi to her which in this case is the puck. I think the atmosphere talk is getting old because he needs to be in the AHL. He needs to be a top piece to improve. Baby steps

 

[Andy]

Hughes and Gorton are notoriously horrible at first round picks such as Laugh and Cucko

Hughes has never had a management role in the nhl before the habs, so I am not sure he can be "notorious" for bad first round picks.

 

[ReHabs]

Drouins parents were the key to him getting traded. He actually handled his struggles with Montreal with class. Never bitched about anything. Maybe behind the scenes but not in the media. The scary part is that Drouin was a million times the player than Slaf is at this point. It’s a poor comparison and means nothing but interesting

He did bitch to the media over the past summer summer and complained about playing here.

 

[River Meadow]

He did bitch to the media over the past summer summer and complained about playing here.

Tbf,

When they made him a healthy scratch in the playoffs Vs. Lightning in favor of slow old man Staal, when we needed a speedy team...

Pretty confusing, and it did seem unfair.

 

[StCaufield]

Hughes has never had a management role in the nhl before the habs, so I am not sure he can be "notorious" for bad first round picks.

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